When the character dynamics change

ThisSchemeCannotFail · 04-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Sorry in advance if such a discussion has been had previously.

I find that my favourite original toon episodes were the ones where circumstances meant that the relationships between the characters were altered.

A few that spring to mind were:-

1. I can't remember the episode, but it was definitely season three - Rocksteady and Donatello were transported to an alien ship and had to co-operate for a while.

2. Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe - Shredder calls them idiots for the last time, and the mutants turn the anxietron ray on Shredder and Krang and try to conquer the city for themselves.

3. Take Me To Your Leader - The other three turtles had to try their hand at leading when Leonardo gets hit by a ray (it's always the funny rays that gets them.)

I am sure there are many others. What about the The Old Switcheroo? "I never thought I would be shaking hands with Shredder!"

*Revan* · 04-10-2007, 01:48 PM

My favorite one is Cowabunga Shredhead! The boys could have easily defeated shredder! Why didn't they destroy him when they had the chance?

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2007, 03:48 PM

Well think about it, do the turtles really even have a reason to kill Shredder? (This only goes for the old toon, most other TMNT universes they have a semi-justifiable reason to slay him)

Spawn Guy · 04-10-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisSchemeCannotFail

3. Take Me To Your Leader - The other three turtles had to try their hand at leading when Leonardo gets hit by a ray (it's always the funny rays that gets them.)

That was Leonardo Lightens Up. In Take Me To Your Leader he just had a bad dream and left.

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2007, 04:00 PM

Actually he mish-mashed to 2 together, he was right until the part about Leo getting hit with a ray.

TheAnimatedSeries · 04-10-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

That was Leonardo Lightens Up. In Take Me To Your Leader he just had a bad dream and left.

I thought that episode was called "Lighten Up, Leo!"

I'm not saying thats what its called, but if its not then what would make me think that it was? I feel like the walls are closing in on me, yall.

Spawn Guy · 04-10-2007, 04:29 PM

Well, for starters, when did they ever call themselves by the shorter versions of their names in the old toon?

MadPirateBunny · 04-10-2007, 04:35 PM

On a side note:
I like ThisSchemeCannotFail's name.

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Well, for starters, when did they ever call themselves by the shorter versions of their names in the old toon?

Donatello calls Michelangelo "Mikey" in Usagi Yojimbo

*VaughnMichael* · 04-10-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Donatello calls Michelangelo "Mikey" in Usagi Yojimbo

I think Spawn Guy Ment in the titles of the episodes. And it is "Leonardo Lightens up" it's always been that and always will be.
Any non lazy person would just have to hop on over to www.ninjaturtles.com and see such things...Amazing I know

Sunshine · 04-10-2007, 05:42 PM

I thought they had at a few points though I don't honestly remember any specifics.

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2007, 05:43 PM

Yea, I just wanted to share that with everybody. Does it ever happen in seasons 4 and onward?

*VaughnMichael* · 04-10-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yea, I just wanted to share that with everybody. Does it ever happen in seasons 4 and onward?

What the name shortening? Well I believe it started happening around 1992 with the toys atleast not sure about anything else.

*ToTheNines* · 04-10-2007, 05:52 PM

I mean actual dialouge in the show.

Mike: Let me at those foot goons! (or somthing to that effect)
Don: Uh, too late Mikey our freind Usagi already took care of it.

Spawn Guy · 04-10-2007, 06:42 PM

Don't remember that. Kinda proves my point though, it was rare, if there were more in show cases of it. When I started watching the movies and reading the comics I was like "Who the hell are Leo and Raph?"

*VaughnMichael* · 04-10-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Don't remember that. Kinda proves my point though, it was rare, if there were more in show cases of it. When I started watching the movies and reading the comics I was like "Who the hell are Leo and Raph?"

Well it's still not as bad when people come along and type things that just get up my nose such as: Ralph, Micky, Uthrom, Shonate or Shonte.
I'm sure theres allot more but thats the ones that I could think of right now that really bother the hell out of me to the point I want chop off babys fingers lol.

ThisSchemeCannotFail · 04-11-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

That was Leonardo Lightens Up. In Take Me To Your Leader he just had a bad dream and left.

Oh yes, that is correct. I am getting my Leonardo walks off episodes mixed up! Those were strange dreams Leonardo was having - especially Rocksteady blowing a bubble.

Also in my original post, I said that the Donatello and Rocksteady being beamed up episode was 'definitely' in season three, but now I am not so sure.

I also agree that the turtles should be called by their full names.

Spawn Guy · 04-11-2007, 11:37 AM

Why?

And I say he just ate too much before going to bed that night, hence the attacked by poodles and dropped into soup idea.

*ToTheNines* · 04-11-2007, 02:04 PM

And the use of bebops spaghetti chains, and the cheese danish heist.

TheAnimatedSeries · 04-11-2007, 03:49 PM

If that episode had been called Lighten Up, Leo it would have won several emmys.

04-10-2007, 12:29 PM	#1
ThisSchemeCannotFail Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 16	When the character dynamics change Sorry in advance if such a discussion has been had previously. I find that my favourite original toon episodes were the ones where circumstances meant that the relationships between the characters were altered. A few that spring to mind were:- 1. I can't remember the episode, but it was definitely season three - Rocksteady and Donatello were transported to an alien ship and had to co-operate for a while. 2. Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe - Shredder calls them idiots for the last time, and the mutants turn the anxietron ray on Shredder and Krang and try to conquer the city for themselves. 3. Take Me To Your Leader - The other three turtles had to try their hand at leading when Leonardo gets hit by a ray (it's always the funny rays that gets them.) I am sure there are many others. What about the The Old Switcheroo? "I never thought I would be shaking hands with Shredder!"

04-10-2007, 01:48 PM	#2
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	My favorite one is Cowabunga Shredhead! The boys could have easily defeated shredder! Why didn't they destroy him when they had the chance? __________________

04-10-2007, 04:29 PM	#7
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	Well, for starters, when did they ever call themselves by the shorter versions of their names in the old toon? __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

04-10-2007, 04:35 PM	#8
MadPirateBunny Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: in the basement Posts: 1,067	On a side note: I like ThisSchemeCannotFail's name. __________________ Note to self: Pillage first. THEN Burn.

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Sunshine Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A nice little spot in the gutter where I keep my mind Posts: 1,437	I thought they had at a few points though I don't honestly remember any specifics. __________________

04-10-2007, 03:48 PM	#3
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,039	Well think about it, do the turtles really even have a reason to kill Shredder? (This only goes for the old toon, most other TMNT universes they have a semi-justifiable reason to slay him)

04-10-2007, 04:00 PM	#5
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,039	Actually he mish-mashed to 2 together, he was right until the part about Leo getting hit with a ray.

04-10-2007, 05:43 PM	#12
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,039	Yea, I just wanted to share that with everybody. Does it ever happen in seasons 4 and onward?

04-10-2007, 05:52 PM	#14
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,039	I mean actual dialouge in the show. Mike: Let me at those foot goons! (or somthing to that effect) Don: Uh, too late Mikey our freind Usagi already took care of it.

04-10-2007, 06:42 PM	#15
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	Don't remember that. Kinda proves my point though, it was rare, if there were more in show cases of it. When I started watching the movies and reading the comics I was like "Who the hell are Leo and Raph?" __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

04-11-2007, 11:37 AM	#18
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	Why? And I say he just ate too much before going to bed that night, hence the attacked by poodles and dropped into soup idea. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

04-11-2007, 02:04 PM	#19
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,039	And the use of bebops spaghetti chains, and the cheese danish heist.

04-11-2007, 03:49 PM	#20
TheAnimatedSeries Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 158	If that episode had been called Lighten Up, Leo it would have won several emmys. __________________ ...but thats just one black mans opinion. Whats yours? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III is better than SOTO and the 2007 movie. You would know that if you were a gangster.