brother of the shredder?

Fafa · 04-19-2007, 09:51 AM

Hello !
what is the name of the brother's of the shredder in the old cartoon ? please ^^

teletran · 04-19-2007, 12:59 PM

that's interesting.
in the first season krang refered to The Shredder as "Saki", suggesting that that was his given name as in the comics.

**Jester** · 04-19-2007, 01:01 PM

The old toon is off when it comes to the Asian names. In that episode, it assumes that it's similar to American names, but in "Legend of Koji" the names are used correctly, thus Hamato Yoshi's ansester is Hamato Koji.

*Deathknight* · 04-19-2007, 01:14 PM

Yeah, they kept going back and forth about the Japanese names. Saki is Shredder's first name since as mentioned before last names come first in Japan. Still, most of the time depending on the writer of the episode, it kept getting switch. Such when Shredder's mom called him Oroku.

*Vegita-San* · 04-20-2007, 11:56 AM

You could argue that she was doing that to belittle him, since she kept on calling him 'her little boy'. Maybe that's some kind of insult in Japan?

*Ninjinister* · 04-20-2007, 01:13 PM

The same thing occurs sometimes in the new toon. They reference Karai as "Ms. Saki" despite Shredder's given name being Saki.

*odupianist* · 04-20-2007, 01:48 PM

^Silly NYC mayor

*Raph's Girl* · 04-20-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

^Silly NYC mayor

Gods i hate the NYC mayor in the toon. He's such an idiot.

Spoiler:

*Ninjinister* · 04-20-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Gods i hate the NYC mayor in the toon. He's such an idiot.

Spoiler:

Did he really? Huzzah.

Another thing I'd like to know is... if Splinter is referenced as Hamato Splinter in the Battle Nexus episodes, why is it in the Lost Season and Fast Forward, Leonardo and Michelangelo (respectively) are given the family name "Splinterson"?

*odupianist* · 04-23-2007, 07:56 AM

^I noticed that as well.

When did the mayor get killed?

*Revan* · 04-23-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The S

Did he really? Huzzah.

Another thing I'd like to know is... if Splinter is referenced as Hamato Splinter in the Battle Nexus episodes, why is it in the Lost Season and Fast Forward, Leonardo and Michelangelo (respectively) are given the family name "Splinterson"?

Son of Splinter - Splinter's son - Splinterson

Ex. Son of Andrew - Andrew's son - Anderson

(I think anyway)

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 05-29-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan

Son of Splinter - Splinter's son - Splinterson

Ex. Son of Andrew - Andrew's son - Anderson

(I think anyway)

You're correct. It was a clever idea on the writers' parts.

*CyberCubed* · 05-29-2016, 06:48 PM

You bumped a thread from 2007, from an entire decade ago, just to tell someone they were right when they don't even come here anymore?

*Ninjinister* · 05-29-2016, 07:29 PM

My point way back then was that it didn't make sense to give them that patronymic when their foster father was Japanese. It would have made more sense to stick with "Hamato".

I'm not that much of an idiot. I know how names work.

*Powder* · 05-29-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ***First of Two Latin Kings***

You're correct. It was a clever idea on the writers' parts.

Why would you do this.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-06-2016, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by teletran

that's interesting.
in the first season krang refered to The Shredder as "Saki", suggesting that that was his given name as in the comics.

It was also more common in the Archie comics and even UK Hero Turtles comics.

thundermaster612 · 06-06-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

My point way back then was that it didn't make sense to give them that patronymic when their foster father was Japanese. It would have made more sense to stick with "Hamato".

I'm not that much of an idiot. I know how names work.

If you still want to know, Demon Shredder killed the mayor in the lost season 5 episode 'Day of the Dragon'

I feel like I got the title wrong

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-06-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thundermaster612

If you still want to know, Demon Shredder killed the mayor in the lost season 5 episode 'Day of the Dragon'

I feel like I got the title wrong

Here are the episodes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenag...ies)_(season_5)

I can't recall which you mean.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 06-06-2016, 01:12 PM

It would have been interesting to shredders mom and his brother to have appeared in the same episode.

She is mentioned in "My Brother the Bad Guy" but never appeared physically.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-06-2016, 02:14 PM

His father would also be interesting.

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	The old toon is off when it comes to the Asian names. In that episode, it assumes that it's similar to American names, but in "Legend of Koji" the names are used correctly, thus Hamato Yoshi's ansester is Hamato Koji. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Yeah, they kept going back and forth about the Japanese names. Saki is Shredder's first name since as mentioned before last names come first in Japan. Still, most of the time depending on the writer of the episode, it kept getting switch. Such when Shredder's mom called him Oroku. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

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Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	The same thing occurs sometimes in the new toon. They reference Karai as "Ms. Saki" despite Shredder's given name being Saki. __________________

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teletran Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 46	that's interesting. in the first season krang refered to The Shredder as "Saki", suggesting that that was his given name as in the comics.

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odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	^Silly NYC mayor

04-23-2007, 07:56 AM	#10
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	^I noticed that as well. When did the mayor get killed?

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Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	My point way back then was that it didn't make sense to give them that patronymic when their foster father was Japanese. It would have made more sense to stick with "Hamato". I'm not that much of an idiot. I know how names work. __________________

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FredWolfLeonardo The Uniters Aotearoa Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Aotearoa New Zealand Posts: 5,341	It would have been interesting to shredders mom and his brother to have appeared in the same episode. She is mentioned in "My Brother the Bad Guy" but never appeared physically.

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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,477	His father would also be interesting.