Tatsu,Rahzr,and Tokka-where did they originate?

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-28-2003, 09:04 PM

Were they from the comics or created specifically for the first two films? Let me know if you know,thanks!

*Jephael* · 01-28-2003, 09:27 PM

As far as I can tell, Tatsu and the two mutants were pretty much loosely based off of Krang, Rocksteady and Bebop.

darthsmozers · 01-28-2003, 10:04 PM

Heh I remember in grade school kids would say it was really Krang inside of Tatsu, etc LOL.

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-28-2003, 10:16 PM

I never thought of it that way! Thanks,guys!

darthsmozers · 01-28-2003, 10:18 PM

But wait...when was the second movie released in relationship to the first episode of the cartoon? Just wondering...

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-28-2003, 10:28 PM

It was released about 3 years after the cartoon began.

darthsmozers · 01-28-2003, 10:38 PM

AH, OK. And, sicne the TMNT had gained such a large younge audience, having mutants was the way to go.

Now, the question is this: Where did the idea of KRANG come from? The utrons? if so, why changed so drastically? to make shredder more of a "team player" of the baddies rather than a warlord from the first movie?

the fugitoid · 01-28-2003, 11:04 PM

He was definatley originated from the ideas of the Utroms, but I think he was changed simply as a vehicle for more things to happen in the plot. IOW, a peaceful race of aliens didn't have as many story possibilties as a manial brain creature from Dimension X. As for Shredder, I think they made him "nicer" simply because the movie or comic version of him might have been too scary.

--Fugi

darthsmozers · 01-28-2003, 11:07 PM

Was Dimension X an original idea for the cartoon? as with the technodrome?

OrokuSaki's#1Fan · 01-28-2003, 11:28 PM

I think they were,but I'm not sure.

Any help anyone?

darthsmozers · 01-28-2003, 11:30 PM

well, krang was an idea for the show, and the technodrome is his i guess? so maybe...anyone???

*Deathknight* · 01-28-2003, 11:40 PM

Krang was an idea made specifically made for the cartoon as was the technodrome. Dimension X I'm not sure about though.

**Karpo_007** · 01-29-2003, 12:10 AM

No dimesnison X in mirage...

tekcop · 01-29-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jephael

As far as I can tell, Tatsu and the two mutants were pretty much loosely based off of Krang, Rocksteady and Bebop.

I think you're pretty much correct. I remember reading somewhere that the movie producers wanted to use Rocksteady and Bebop in the second movie but Peter and Kevin told them there was no way they were letting them in the movie. So.. Tokka & Rahzar were created.

Mondo_Gecko · 01-29-2003, 01:15 PM

Aww man is that reason stupid Laird & Eastman,. I Wanted Rocksteady & Bebop!!!!

**Karpo_007** · 01-29-2003, 01:16 PM

raphael90 · 01-29-2003, 01:20 PM

I must be clueless to some obvious reason...why wouldn't they want Bebop and Rocksteady in the second movie?! That would have been the greatest!!

**Karpo_007** · 01-29-2003, 01:30 PM

Well the second movie was so bad that Rocksteady and bebop wouldn't have made it any worse.

Mondo_Gecko · 01-29-2003, 01:48 PM

The Second movie wasn't that bad Karpo

Sparvid · 01-29-2003, 01:50 PM

Yes, it was...

01-28-2003, 09:27 PM	#2
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	As far as I can tell, Tatsu and the two mutants were pretty much loosely based off of Krang, Rocksteady and Bebop. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

01-28-2003, 11:04 PM	#8
the fugitoid Mouser Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 7	He was definatley originated from the ideas of the Utroms, but I think he was changed simply as a vehicle for more things to happen in the plot. IOW, a peaceful race of aliens didn't have as many story possibilties as a manial brain creature from Dimension X. As for Shredder, I think they made him "nicer" simply because the movie or comic version of him might have been too scary. --Fugi __________________ Wise man say, "Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza."

01-28-2003, 11:40 PM	#12
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Krang was an idea made specifically made for the cartoon as was the technodrome. Dimension X I'm not sure about though. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

01-29-2003, 01:20 PM	#17
raphael90 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ...down in the sewer listening to Skinny Puppy... Posts: 618	bebop and rocksteady I must be clueless to some obvious reason...why wouldn't they want Bebop and Rocksteady in the second movie?! That would have been the greatest!! __________________ "Babies? These things haven't even been BORN yet!" -Raphael

01-28-2003, 09:04 PM	#1
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	Tatsu,Rahzr,and Tokka-where did they originate? Were they from the comics or created specifically for the first two films? Let me know if you know,thanks!

01-28-2003, 10:04 PM	#3
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,278	Heh I remember in grade school kids would say it was really Krang inside of Tatsu, etc LOL.

01-28-2003, 10:16 PM	#4
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	I never thought of it that way! Thanks,guys!

01-28-2003, 10:18 PM	#5
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,278	But wait...when was the second movie released in relationship to the first episode of the cartoon? Just wondering...

01-28-2003, 10:28 PM	#6
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	It was released about 3 years after the cartoon began.

01-28-2003, 10:38 PM	#7
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,278	AH, OK. And, sicne the TMNT had gained such a large younge audience, having mutants was the way to go. Now, the question is this: Where did the idea of KRANG come from? The utrons? if so, why changed so drastically? to make shredder more of a "team player" of the baddies rather than a warlord from the first movie?

01-28-2003, 11:07 PM	#9
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,278	Was Dimension X an original idea for the cartoon? as with the technodrome?

01-28-2003, 11:28 PM	#10
OrokuSaki's#1Fan Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Elmira,NY Posts: 91	I think they were,but I'm not sure. Any help anyone?

01-28-2003, 11:30 PM	#11
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,278	well, krang was an idea for the show, and the technodrome is his i guess? so maybe...anyone???

01-29-2003, 12:10 AM	#13
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	No dimesnison X in mirage...

01-29-2003, 01:15 PM	#15
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	Aww man is that reason stupid Laird & Eastman,. I Wanted Rocksteady & Bebop!!!!

01-29-2003, 01:16 PM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798

01-29-2003, 01:30 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well the second movie was so bad that Rocksteady and bebop wouldn't have made it any worse.

01-29-2003, 01:48 PM	#19
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	The Second movie wasn't that bad Karpo

01-29-2003, 01:50 PM	#20
Sparvid Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Östersund, Sweden Posts: 860	Yes, it was...