TMNT What If?

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 07:59 PM

I've been doing some thinking about allot of TMNT related storys as of late.
Now what if Splinter's Vendetta against Saki was all a misguided Lie!
What if he didn't really understand everything that was going on and made the turtles think they where fighting and killing in the name of Yoshi and honor but what if it was all just one big miss guided lie or mistake?
What if Yoshi was really the evil one and Saki was the good one?
What if instead of Yoshi having Splinter as a Pet what if Saki did?
Gives you really something to think about.

*Spitfire* · 05-17-2007, 08:19 PM

That would be a great twist but I think the way Saki acts sort of proves Yoshi was the good guy or at least the lesser of two evils. Now if Saki's brother was the good guy and Yoshi was evil that would be a good way to do it, then Saki could have been a crime lord who wanted to avenge his brothers death even if he wasn't evil.

*Warhorse* · 05-17-2007, 08:20 PM

Would be the making of one great twist! I'd be all for such a story! Can you imagine the character development that would ensue with the Turtles after such a discovery?

**Jester** · 05-17-2007, 08:21 PM

Our whole life has been....a lie.

I imagine that it'd be hardest for Leonardo if it was in the vol 4 universe, where Splinter was dead and couldn't answer his questions.

But...in the 2k3 universe, I think Splinter whould have trouble reconciling that his master was indeed evil, since he cared for me...it'd be very Karai-esque.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Our whole life has been....a lie.

I really think it would be awsome and an interesting story even if it's really sad I think Leonardo would go crazy and start questioning everything.

**Jester** · 05-17-2007, 08:29 PM

I wanna write it...If I could write a story that well.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I wanna write it...If I could write a story that well.

well Thanks Jester & Warhorse I'm glad you like the idea

*kicks Assfire*

**Jester** · 05-17-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spit's post below....???

Well TLS proves it couldn't possibly happen in that universe. But in the comics it's possible. Surprised Image never touched on it.

I know...I kinda mean in a world where Splinter's still alive and not "Yoshi's a Utrom Guardian who is tasked with defending against the Utrom Shredder."

Edit: Weird! How'd this post show before the one I'm replying to?

*Spitfire* · 05-17-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

But...in the 2k3 universe, I think Splinter whould have trouble reconciling that his master was indeed evil, since he cared for me...it'd be very Karai-esque.

Well TLS proves it couldn't possibly happen in that universe. But in the comics it's possible, I'd love if that was what Laird was sitting on. A way to pull that off. Maybe that's who this Hamato Yoshi character is.

Surprised Image never touched on it.

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

*kicks Assfire*

Just don't kick my bum, I had Mexican food for lunch and I'll fart a fire so hot out of my ass it'll melt your feet off.

*triplexxx* · 05-17-2007, 08:41 PM

Well it'd be excellent for fanfiction, but it's for sure they'll never do something like this on TV, although they did touch upon the concept of Splinter betraying them and turning evil in that Reality Check.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 05-17-2007, 08:44 PM

That would be a cool arc to see. Something like that would no doubt put the Turtles back on the radar.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Well TLS proves it couldn't possibly happen in that universe. But in the comics it's possible, I'd love if that was what Laird was sitting on. A way to pull that off. Maybe that's who this Hamato Yoshi character is.

Surprised Image never touched on it.

Just don't kick my bum, I had Mexican food for lunch and I'll fart a fire so hot out of my ass it'll melt your feet off.

eeep! I like having my feet!
And I agree when I thought of the idea I was more thinking of the comics than the cartoon I can't say I really honestly think about the cartoon that much when the comics are so much better.
It would really make things crazy now at this point in volume 4 is they realized that splinter infact this entire time had no clue and thats exactly what Hamoto Saki is going to tell leonardo!! oh wow I should send this idea into peter! lol perhaps I could clear up his writters block.

**Jester** · 05-17-2007, 08:46 PM

One wonders if that's why there's Hamato Saki (or is it Oroku Yoshi) in vol 4.
Blast you Le' Peu....you beat me to it...

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 05-17-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

One wonders if that's why there's Hamato Saki (or is it Oroku Yoshi) in vol 4.

I believe it's Oroku Yoshi. But I really can't wait to see where they're going with this character.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

That would be a cool arc to see. Something like that would no doubt put the Turtles back on the radar.

Damn thanks man!

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Originally Posted by Jester

One wonders if that's why there's Hamato Saki (or is it Oroku Yoshi) in vol 4.
Blast you Le' Peu....you beat me to it...

ahaha!

*Spitfire* · 05-17-2007, 08:49 PM

Wouldn't it be totally nuts if Saki and Yoshi turned out to be the same person*By this I mean he had a split personality*? Now obviously that wouldn't work but it would be pretty damn cool. Like when Yoshi dies it's really just the Saki half of his personality taking over. Imagine Leo finding out he killed Yoshi.

Maybe he killed himself. Splinter was a rat and at this time I doubt he had a very big memory. His clouded thoughts would be great.

Wow you got ideas flowing! What if Renet showed the TMNT what really happened! And they find out it's a lie that way? That would be awesome.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

I believe it's Oroku Yoshi. But I really can't wait to see where they're going with this character.

oh my bad pretty much the same thing but I think it would be awsome if he told Leo what I just brought up I'll tell you know it would bring me back to the comics 100% me not enjoying the art or not I have been enjoying the story line thus far but I think something like this would only push the tmnt into something off the meter.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Wouldn't it be totally nuts if Saki and Yoshi turned out to be the same person? Now obviously that wouldn't work but it would be pretty damn cool.

Maybe he killed himself. Splinter was a rat and at this time I doubt he had a very big memory. His clouded thoughts would be great.

Wow you got ideas flowing! What if Renet showed the TMNT what really happened! And they find out it's a lie that way? That would be awesome.

This is exactly what I was thinking how Does Splinter know all of this for a fact he was a simple rat back then his memories could be foggy and not 100% accurate.

**Jester** · 05-17-2007, 08:50 PM

Renet...there's the spring board...I was wondering how to introduce the story. I was thinking Leonardo'd find an old newspaper.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-17-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Renet...there's the spring board...I was wondering how to introduce the story. I was thinking Leonardo'd find an old newspaper.

I don't know I think having Oroku Yoshi Tell Leonardo the truth and then Leonardo running back to tell everyone else about this mystical place he went to and had come across this Oroku Yoshi guy and tell them what he told Leo would make everyone think he's crazy and it would really tick Leo off It would set up for something really great and honestly not make me dislike them having the battle nexus in the comics.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 05-17-2007, 08:53 PM

I would like to see a what if story that shows what would happen if the Turtles were turned into humans for a day. Liek that episode of the old toon Splinter No More, only this time form a teenagers point of view.

Also, going back to Putrescent's idea, I really wish Mirage would do a Tales of Shredder miniseries, something that shows Saki's rise to become the Shredder after Nagi died. It should culminate with Saki's fight with the Turtles from issue 1.

05-17-2007, 07:59 PM	#1
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	TMNT What If? I've been doing some thinking about allot of TMNT related storys as of late. Now what if Splinter's Vendetta against Saki was all a misguided Lie! What if he didn't really understand everything that was going on and made the turtles think they where fighting and killing in the name of Yoshi and honor but what if it was all just one big miss guided lie or mistake? What if Yoshi was really the evil one and Saki was the good one? What if instead of Yoshi having Splinter as a Pet what if Saki did? Gives you really something to think about.

05-17-2007, 08:19 PM	#2
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	That would be a great twist but I think the way Saki acts sort of proves Yoshi was the good guy or at least the lesser of two evils. Now if Saki's brother was the good guy and Yoshi was evil that would be a good way to do it, then Saki could have been a crime lord who wanted to avenge his brothers death even if he wasn't evil. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

05-17-2007, 08:21 PM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	Our whole life has been....a lie. I imagine that it'd be hardest for Leonardo if it was in the vol 4 universe, where Splinter was dead and couldn't answer his questions. But...in the 2k3 universe, I think Splinter whould have trouble reconciling that his master was indeed evil, since he cared for me...it'd be very Karai-esque. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 05-17-2007 at 08:27 PM.

05-17-2007, 08:29 PM	#6
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	I wanna write it...If I could write a story that well. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-17-2007, 08:41 PM	#10
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	Well it'd be excellent for fanfiction, but it's for sure they'll never do something like this on TV, although they did touch upon the concept of Splinter betraying them and turning evil in that Reality Check. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

05-17-2007, 08:20 PM	#3
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Would be the making of one great twist! I'd be all for such a story! Can you imagine the character development that would ensue with the Turtles after such a discovery?

05-17-2007, 08:44 PM	#11
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	That would be a cool arc to see. Something like that would no doubt put the Turtles back on the radar.

05-17-2007, 08:46 PM	#13
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	One wonders if that's why there's Hamato Saki (or is it Oroku Yoshi) in vol 4. Blast you Le' Peu....you beat me to it... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-17-2007, 08:49 PM	#16
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Wouldn't it be totally nuts if Saki and Yoshi turned out to be the same personBy this I mean he had a split personality? Now obviously that wouldn't work but it would be pretty damn cool. Like when Yoshi dies it's really just the Saki half of his personality taking over. Imagine Leo finding out he killed Yoshi. Maybe he killed himself. Splinter was a rat and at this time I doubt he had a very big memory. His clouded thoughts would be great. Wow you got ideas flowing! What if Renet showed the TMNT what really happened! And they find out it's a lie that way? That would be awesome. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

05-17-2007, 08:50 PM	#18
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,294	Renet...there's the spring board...I was wondering how to introduce the story. I was thinking Leonardo'd find an old newspaper. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-17-2007, 08:53 PM	#20
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	I would like to see a what if story that shows what would happen if the Turtles were turned into humans for a day. Liek that episode of the old toon Splinter No More, only this time form a teenagers point of view. Also, going back to Putrescent's idea, I really wish Mirage would do a Tales of Shredder miniseries, something that shows Saki's rise to become the Shredder after Nagi died. It should culminate with Saki's fight with the Turtles from issue 1.