President Bishop

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So, does anyone have an idea as to where Fast Forward is going by having Bishop be the President of the Pan-Galactic Council?

At first, I thought he’d secretly be in league with Sh’Okanabo, and provide the Turtles’ DNA for cloning the Dark Turtles, but Sh’Okanabo obtained their DNA on his own in “Night of Sh’Okanabo!” Also, Bishop has always fought against the aliens. Even though he’s a villain, I seriously doubt he’d be helping Sh’Okanabo assimilate Earth’s population into those funky Kanabo drone creatures.

On one hand, I don’t think the last six episodes of FF will have enough time to do justice to an evil President Bishop. On the other hand, I'm skeptical of Bishop’s statement that he’s turned from his former ways. Bishop has to have SOME kind of ace up his sleeve.

But maybe I'm totally wrong—maybe this is just another FF disappointment, promising far more than it delivers.

Opinions, everyone?

[Spawn Guy]

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!

[The Terror of Death]

I have a strong feeling that he really has gone legit. Trust me, if he was evil the writers would have given us a hint already. They may have planned for him to reveal his true colors in season 2 but in season one he is a definite good guy.

I dont know why they chose to make this decision but it really bugs me. If the guys return to the present things are going to get weird.

[ToTheNines]

I think it was a dumb idea. Now if we ever wake up from the terrible nightmare that is FF, Bishop won't make much of a baddie. Also, why the heck has he only appeared once? You'd think they would get him a little bit more involved...

[odupianist]

if he was evil the writers would have given us a hint already.

Agreed

If the guys return to the present things are going to get weird.

Yes and no. They could return to the present and the future could end up changing because they know what the future will be like (Back to the Future-esque sort of). But if you think of it that that is how the future pans out, here's out I see it.

Bishop: Now I will destroy you all, I have you right where I want you.
TMNT: Oh, hey Bishop, how's it going buddy? oh yeah, you're against us now. Duh, it's in the future you're a decent guy. Hmm so if we kick your butt now, do you still become a good guy in the future? What if we don't kick your butt now, will yo ustay a bad guy? Hmm, can we have a time out so we can think about this?

[CyberCubed]

You guys are assuming Bishop would have a major role if the Turtles return to the present. It seems to me that Season 4 was about as much as you can do with Bishop, and since we know he never "dies" since he's in FF, there's really not much more you can do with him.

[ZariusTwo]

I agree, Bishop's role in FF is more of a "coda" to the character, with his arc from "ruthless agent motivated by national security" to "ruthless agent understanding more of the Turtles and their contribution to global preservation" played out in the last two seasons.

[Revan]

The turtles are no longer a threat to Bishop because there are hundreds of aliens living on Earth in 2105 anyway. The turtles are no longer freaks so Bishop has no reason to want them. IMO

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

But Bishop CAN'T become a good guy!! He's the most kick-butt villian TMNT 2003 has ever had! Heck, he even beats The Shredder! BOTH Shredders!!

Our only hope is for "Head of State" to show Bishop as having some dark motive. Or at least trying to shellack one of the Turtles.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

But Bishop CAN'T become a good guy!! He's the most kick-butt villian TMNT 2003 has ever had! Heck, he even beats The Shredder! BOTH Shredders!!

Our only hope is for "Head of State" to show Bishop as having some dark motive. Or at least trying to shellack one of the Turtles.

I just can't see his motivation to destroy the turtles unless it's out of pure spite now that Earth has been settled by aliens from all over.

[kerfootw]

I agree! This is a real mess. They should've done another episode with him to fill us in...are you guys sure he's not Torbin Ziixx? I'd say it's possible.

P.S. Just turned 21 today. See ya'll later.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by kerfootw

are you guys sure he's not Torbin Ziixx? I'd say it's possible.

Ha or Darius! Isn't Darius's VA the same guy to does Bishop?

[Spawn Guy]

Maybe he's taken kind of an Abe Lincon approach to the whole aliens on Earth thing. "Okay, your here, I need man power, away we go." Ironic considering I recall Bishop being a member of the confdiracy. But anyway, point is his reasoning probably isn't all that angelic; aliens living on Earth are less likely to write home saying "Dear Ma, dear Pa, come invade! They've got beaches and cars and BBQ's and stuff! It'll be fun!"

Not the parinoid loose cannon we knew, but not that far from paroniod either.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Maybe he's taken kind of an Abe Lincon approach to the whole aliens on Earth thing.

Its funny you should say that considering how Abe Lincon is actually an alien in the new toon.

[gobo]

You know why they had him be a Confederate? O_o Perfect way to give reason to his prejudice views (i.e. the fact that he took forever to realize the Turtles had the same goals as him all along just because they aren't human). When we saw him at the end of The Lost Season, that was probably when he started understanding that maybe not all non-human sentient beings are a waste of intelligence. We don't know if or how many more times the Turtles had to prove themselves to him in the full lives they apparently led in that reality in spite of them being whisked away to the future with no certainty of returning to their time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What do you mean, Abe Lincoln's an alien in 2K3? WTH?

Actually, I think Darius is connected to Hun. Hun, Dun. Very close. Same huge giant body, too. Just a thought.

Bishop as Zixx? I sure as heck hope not. That would be crap.

As for Bishop realizing the TMNT are allies, I hope that doesn't happen until season 10. Bishop is evil. He needs to STAY evil. (I'd like it better if Karai stayed evil, too. )

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by gobo

Perfect way to give reason to his prejudice views (i.e. the fact that he took forever to realize the Turtles had the same goals as him all along just because they aren't human). When we saw him at the end of The Lost Season, that was probably when he started understanding that maybe not all non-human sentient beings are a waste of intelligence.

Yes, their a handy work force he can keep an eye on.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

What do you mean, Abe Lincoln's an alien in 2K3? WTH?

I was like WTH too when I found it. But its true hes an utrom.

And you guys are write about the Bishop thing. His story cant really go any further. The problem is that its the same thing for Hun and Karai. If the turtles return to the past they need a new main villian. Hopefully its slashur but that might be hoping for too much.

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by The Terror of Death

I was like WTH too when I found it. But its true hes an utrom.

Evidence? Because I'm pretty sure I'd remember something like that. As a matter of fact, I can't recall Lincon coming up in the show...at all.

If that's true, he's probably adressing the whole of humanity with the whole "Your race suffers greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. If this is admitted, it affords a reason why we should be separated." thing. Asshole hypocrite aliens.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Evidence? Because I'm pretty sure I'd remember something like that. As a matter of fact, I can't recall Lincon coming up in the show...at all.

Could someone help me out because I dont have the software to put the clip up. But dont worry Spawn Guy I might be able to find it on youtube.