Kirby - The Fifth Turtle

The Shelf · 06-28-2007, 06:21 PM

Hey guys! I've got the Artobiography that Kevin Eastman put together, and in it he mentions the fifth turtle named Kirby that was supposed to appear in the live action TMNT 4. I'm just curious.... Did any part of his story, particularly his origin, leak out before or after the movie disappeared? I basically just want to know any information on him that anyone might know.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-28-2007, 07:01 PM

why a name like Kirby? why not somethin like Picasso or whatever to keep the whole artist thing goin?

*ToTheNines* · 06-28-2007, 07:03 PM

I'm sure it was to be in honor of Jack Kirby.

*gobo* · 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM

Same thing I thought. They sure loved Jack Kirby's work.

*Roseangelo* · 06-28-2007, 07:07 PM

Yeah, he was definitely named after Jack Kirby.

I don't recall any specifics on the character outside of what's in Kevin's Artobiography.

*Coola Yagami* · 06-28-2007, 07:08 PM

oops sorry... whenever I hear Kirby, I think of a certain pink powderpuff...

*Roseangelo* · 06-28-2007, 07:16 PM

I always think of Kirby Puckett.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-28-2007, 07:23 PM

A bit Kim "Leonardo" Garvin mentioned about ten years ago I've still kept :

"Ok, I will FINALLY come open on one hot tidbit rumor I had heard about the script for TMNT IV many months back. Now that this is out and about, I am in the free to mention it. (I was sworn to say nothing till then, so it would not be me who leaked anything on the possible script.) It was before the TV show stuff started coming out, and so it did not include Venus, but another turtle called Kirby. In honor of the great [Jack] Kirby of comics of course, which Mirage did the Donatello solo [special] with a Kirby character as tribute as well... And it would be about dimension hopping, due to the influence of the mutant Kirby’s things, some of which would be dark and nasty. This was to be a gritty flick. Renet [a time-travelling character from the comics] was not involved that I had heard."

Mike Dooney also did designs for the film, and Julie Strain mentioned she was locked in for the part of -- in her words, verbatim -- "an evil character from an alternate universe."

*Ninjinister* · 06-28-2007, 07:56 PM

That's just badass. I'd do dirty things in public just to see actual, official pictures - even just preproduction art - of this TMNT Kirby.

*ToTheNines* · 06-28-2007, 08:00 PM

I dont get it, was this supposed to like the Donatello microseries only Kirby was a turtle and all the turtles went instead of just Don?

*Andrew NDB* · 06-28-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I dont get it, was this supposed to like the Donatello microseries only Kirby was a turtle and all the turtles went instead of just Don?

Yeah, something like that.

*Roseangelo* · 06-28-2007, 08:01 PM

Here you go:

Click for full picture.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-28-2007, 08:08 PM

here's another drawing of Kirby by Kevin Eastman.

*Ninjinister* · 06-28-2007, 08:12 PM

Thank you!
(Takes off all of his clothes, runs outside, and humps the closest tree)

*Andrew NDB* · 06-28-2007, 08:14 PM

Though I'm pretty far from the biggest fan of the new movie, I will say it seems a little sounder than what the Kirby movie might have ended up being.

We know little about the Kirby movie, though... but what I do know didn't sound good.

*gobo* · 06-28-2007, 08:32 PM

If Kirby was actually a Ninja Turtle as well, what do you think the reason was for not mentioning him all those years? Perhaps he was the TMNT of an alternate reality. Or might he have been a brother they thought had died long ago or was otherwise removed from the family? O_o Any official word on whether he was supposed to be good or evil?

*Ninjinister* · 06-28-2007, 08:34 PM

I wonder what color his mask was...

*gobo* · 06-28-2007, 08:45 PM

Maybe Benvenuto knows.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-28-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo

Perhaps he was the TMNT of an alternate reality.

that's exactly what he was. He was created by Kirbys magic pencil. From what I'm told some of the idea was taken and used on april in vol.4 I'm sorry towards anyone this might offend but I like the idea of the gem/pencil creating a turtle from another world rather than it creating april.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S

I wonder what color his mask was...

White.

The Shelf · 06-28-2007, 09:48 PM

Wow, so many posts in such a short time.

Thanks for all the info, folks. So Kirby was meant to be an alternate reality ninja turtle. That's probably the best way they could have introduced a fifth turtle without it being silly like Venus (I know, it sounds strange saying that a character from an alternate dimension isn't as silly as something else, but it's true). I like how dark the character feels which makes me think he was meant to be an anti-hero of sorts, or perhaps just a hero who was forced to survive in a dark and gritty world, which in turn influenced his personality. That seems to be the most obvious choice of personality too, since we've already got turtles that fit the four major personality types. Raph is a bit of a jerk, but Kirby sounds like he would be a bit darker and crazier. Raph's attitude is more motivated by love, hate, and sarcasm, but I think Kirby's would be more motivated by cynicism, assuming that he did actually come from a darker and grittier world. Eh, I'm sort of rambling now.

Anyway, I'm not sure how the movie would have turned out, especially since the third film wasn't nearly as dark as this one sounds like it was meant to be. But I like the character, and I think he would make a good Mirage version of Slash. I wouldn't mind seeing him in some issues of Tales or something.

So I guess that makes, what? Like 8 official mutant turtles throughout the various universes? Leo, Don, Mike, Raph, Kirby, Venus, Slash, and Tokka? Crazy stuff. I don't think there are any more, are there?

EDIT: Oh, and I guess there are 2 turtle robots too: Metalhead (OT) and Turtlebot.... Anything else?

06-28-2007, 06:21 PM	#1
The Shelf Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,031	Kirby - The Fifth Turtle Hey guys! I've got the Artobiography that Kevin Eastman put together, and in it he mentions the fifth turtle named Kirby that was supposed to appear in the live action TMNT 4. I'm just curious.... Did any part of his story, particularly his origin, leak out before or after the movie disappeared? I basically just want to know any information on him that anyone might know.

06-28-2007, 07:05 PM	#4
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Same thing I thought. They sure loved Jack Kirby's work. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-28-2007, 07:07 PM	#5
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,110	Yeah, he was definitely named after Jack Kirby. I don't recall any specifics on the character outside of what's in Kevin's Artobiography. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

06-28-2007, 07:16 PM	#7
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,110	I always think of Kirby Puckett. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

06-28-2007, 07:23 PM	#8
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,287	A bit Kim "Leonardo" Garvin mentioned about ten years ago I've still kept : "Ok, I will FINALLY come open on one hot tidbit rumor I had heard about the script for TMNT IV many months back. Now that this is out and about, I am in the free to mention it. (I was sworn to say nothing till then, so it would not be me who leaked anything on the possible script.) It was before the TV show stuff started coming out, and so it did not include Venus, but another turtle called Kirby. In honor of the great [Jack] Kirby of comics of course, which Mirage did the Donatello solo [special] with a Kirby character as tribute as well... And it would be about dimension hopping, due to the influence of the mutant Kirby’s things, some of which would be dark and nasty. This was to be a gritty flick. Renet [a time-travelling character from the comics] was not involved that I had heard." Mike Dooney also did designs for the film, and Julie Strain mentioned she was locked in for the part of -- in her words, verbatim -- "an evil character from an alternate universe." __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

06-28-2007, 07:01 PM	#2
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,660	why a name like Kirby? why not somethin like Picasso or whatever to keep the whole artist thing goin?

06-28-2007, 07:03 PM	#3
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,110	I'm sure it was to be in honor of Jack Kirby.

06-28-2007, 07:08 PM	#6
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,660	oops sorry... whenever I hear Kirby, I think of a certain pink powderpuff...

06-28-2007, 07:56 PM	#9
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	That's just badass. I'd do dirty things in public just to see actual, official pictures - even just preproduction art - of this TMNT Kirby. __________________

06-28-2007, 08:00 PM	#10
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,110	I dont get it, was this supposed to like the Donatello microseries only Kirby was a turtle and all the turtles went instead of just Don?

06-28-2007, 08:01 PM	#12
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,110	Here you go: Click for full picture. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

06-28-2007, 08:08 PM	#13
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	here's another drawing of Kirby by Kevin Eastman.

06-28-2007, 08:12 PM	#14
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Thank you! (Takes off all of his clothes, runs outside, and humps the closest tree) __________________

06-28-2007, 08:14 PM	#15
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,287	Though I'm pretty far from the biggest fan of the new movie, I will say it seems a little sounder than what the Kirby movie might have ended up being. We know little about the Kirby movie, though... but what I do know didn't sound good. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

06-28-2007, 08:32 PM	#16
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	If Kirby was actually a Ninja Turtle as well, what do you think the reason was for not mentioning him all those years? Perhaps he was the TMNT of an alternate reality. Or might he have been a brother they thought had died long ago or was otherwise removed from the family? O_o Any official word on whether he was supposed to be good or evil? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-28-2007, 08:34 PM	#17
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I wonder what color his mask was... __________________

06-28-2007, 08:45 PM	#18
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Maybe Benvenuto knows. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-28-2007, 09:48 PM	#20
The Shelf Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,031	Wow, so many posts in such a short time. Thanks for all the info, folks. So Kirby was meant to be an alternate reality ninja turtle. That's probably the best way they could have introduced a fifth turtle without it being silly like Venus (I know, it sounds strange saying that a character from an alternate dimension isn't as silly as something else, but it's true). I like how dark the character feels which makes me think he was meant to be an anti-hero of sorts, or perhaps just a hero who was forced to survive in a dark and gritty world, which in turn influenced his personality. That seems to be the most obvious choice of personality too, since we've already got turtles that fit the four major personality types. Raph is a bit of a jerk, but Kirby sounds like he would be a bit darker and crazier. Raph's attitude is more motivated by love, hate, and sarcasm, but I think Kirby's would be more motivated by cynicism, assuming that he did actually come from a darker and grittier world. Eh, I'm sort of rambling now. Anyway, I'm not sure how the movie would have turned out, especially since the third film wasn't nearly as dark as this one sounds like it was meant to be. But I like the character, and I think he would make a good Mirage version of Slash. I wouldn't mind seeing him in some issues of Tales or something. So I guess that makes, what? Like 8 official mutant turtles throughout the various universes? Leo, Don, Mike, Raph, Kirby, Venus, Slash, and Tokka? Crazy stuff. I don't think there are any more, are there? EDIT: Oh, and I guess there are 2 turtle robots too: Metalhead (OT) and Turtlebot.... Anything else? Last edited by The Shelf; 06-28-2007 at 09:56 PM.