The street gang

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-10-2007, 09:04 AM

What happened to the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once where members in the 1987 TMNT cartoon? Some gang members were never mutated, and they left Shredder and appeared in later episodes ("The Gang's All Here"). But som members were mutated (seen in the "Shredder & Splintered"). Were those who were mutated seen in later episodes? Or where they probably abandoned in Dimension X and threwn out of the Technodrome when the Technodrome went to Dimension X?

*ToTheNines* · 07-10-2007, 09:11 AM

Interesting question, I really wonder why the were caged up in ep. 5.... I don't remember seeing them in any later episodes so I'm assuming they got ditched in Dimension X

Spawn Guy · 07-10-2007, 09:36 AM

Nah, they formed a family band and tour the world in a mini van, learning life lessons and solving the occasional international crisis.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-10-2007, 10:14 AM

Maybe Shredder and Krang didn't need them, re-mutated them to humans and sent them back to Earth when the Technodrome had been sent to Dimension X.

weredog · 07-10-2007, 04:41 PM

I don't think Shredder and Krang would be considerate enough to take the time to de-mutate them and send them home. I picture a much more unpleasant fate for them. Stranded in Dimension X or executed when they proved useless. Something along those lines.

*ToTheNines* · 07-10-2007, 04:45 PM

There is no way they got executed, just look at Bebop and Rocksteady they never got killed, and they ruined Shredder...

*triplexxx* · 07-10-2007, 05:40 PM

My guess is some were put to work taking care of the Technodrome, and maybe others de-mutated and sent back to Earth as local contacts.

*gobo* · 07-10-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

There is no way they got executed

So, what was with that tanning-booth they fly-ed Baxter in?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-10-2007, 06:13 PM

Or maybe sent back to Earth without mutation. Like the Turtles, humams would fear them and they would hide to live in the sewers or something. Could be an interesting fanfic?

*Coola Yagami* · 07-10-2007, 08:05 PM

Eh, they were most likely kicked out and stranded somewhere in Dimension X. After all, the gang members we saw in 'The gang's all here' and any other episode that had the 'supposed' Bebop and Rocksteady's 'old' gang didn't look anything like the ones we saw in the first 5 episodes. I sure as hell don't remember seeing Jersey Red there.

weredog · 07-11-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo

So, what was with that tanning-booth they fly-ed Baxter in?

Which brings me to my next question. Why is it they were so hellbent on offing Baxter when Bebop and Rocksteady screwed up far more often and never once had their lives seriously threatened?

General Traag · 07-11-2007, 11:32 AM

In one episode shredder demutates one of them (he looked a bit like wingnut) to show off his cool demutating weapon.

I don't recall the others being mutated but i can't remember 'their story' exactly anyways.
In some later episodes they are seen caged inside the technodrome? And then disappeared?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-11-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

In one episode shredder demutates one of them (he looked a bit like wingnut) to show off his cool demutating weapon.

I don't recall the others being mutated but i can't remember 'their story' exactly anyways.
In some later episodes they are seen caged inside the technodrome? And then disappeared?

Both this is "Shredder & Splintered", before the Technodrome goes to Dimension X. Maybe the re-mutated one left the Technodrome then.

And why trying to kill Baxter Stockman? Probably because he was a threat to Krang and Shredder. Bebop and Rocksteady was never that, even if they had eft Krang and Shredder.

*ToTheNines* · 07-11-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

So, what was with that tanning-booth they fly-ed Baxter in?

Very good point.

Spawn Guy · 07-11-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by weredog

Which brings me to my next question. Why is it they were so hellbent on offing Baxter when Bebop and Rocksteady screwed up far more often and never once had their lives seriously threatened?

Krang had no use for Baxter's brainpower. Bebop and Rocksteady had muscle even if it hadn't been used proparly since Season 1. They were probably good for heavy lifting around the Technodrome and Krang didn't send them to Earth out of some twisted sense of humor seeing Shredder scrable around.

Then there's always the fact everyoneloved them and only the comic readers had the slightest clue who Baxter was.

General Traag · 07-11-2007, 12:46 PM

Maybe krang wanted baxters body to reside in it

(didn't krang say at some point he wanted a 'warmth body'? Or is it again my fuzzled brain puzzling stuff from different cartoons together?).

*Coola Yagami* · 07-11-2007, 07:29 PM

Makes no sense though when ya think about it. When Baxter was human, Krang was ready to dispose of him because he had no use of a useless earth creature.... Like Spawn Guy said, they didn't need Baxter's brain when they had Krang.

And yet in 'Return of the Fly', Shredder tried to recruit Baxterfly with them, convincing Krang that 'he's the brightest mind since Einstein, and with him at their side, the world is their oyster'.

It's like... make up your mind Shred-head.

*VaughnMichael* · 07-11-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Makes no sense though when ya think about it. When Baxter was human, Krang was ready to dispose of him because he had no use of a useless earth creature.... Like Spawn Guy said, they didn't need Baxter's brain when they had Krang.

And yet in 'Return of the Fly', Shredder tried to recruit Baxterfly with them, convincing Krang that 'he's the brightest mind since Einstein, and with him at their side, the world is their oyster'.

It's like... make up your mind Shred-head.

I'm pretty sure Shredder said that to trick Baxters dumb fly brain.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-11-2007, 09:26 PM

well... Baxter was frozen in a big block of ice so he couldn't hear it anyway.

Basically the guys froze some resevioir or something, so Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady and block-of-ice Baxter were all sent thrashing to the Technodrome along with several chunks of ice. Krang complains about their usual failures, but Shredder says it's not a total loss, since they got Baxter. And like I said, Shredder tries to convince Krang that recruiting Baxter is a good idea, despite the fact that both of them were so quick to dispose of him without a second thought 2 seasons ago. Baxter busts out of the ice cube, threatens everyone in the room and flies off.

*gobo* · 07-11-2007, 09:42 PM

Shredder convinced Krang that Baxter was smart (still) in order to trick Baxter? O_o Sounds more like sloppy writing to me (one of the many things that disgusted me about most of the third season). While I find something inherently appealing about (all but the first) Fly-Guy Baxter eps, I believe this is in reference to the scene at the end where Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, and th Baxter fly-cicle fell through the tunnel all the way to the Earth's core

without Baxter melting at all

, and Shredder talked him up to Krang while he was still frozen. Even if it was just in case Baxter could still hear them while frozen, that was just too weak.

EDIT: Drat! Out-posted again!

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

And like I said, Shredder tries to convince Krang that recruiting Baxter is a good idea, despite the fact that both of them were so quick to dispose of him without a second thought 2 seasons ago.

Just one season, actually. ^_^

07-10-2007, 09:04 AM	#1
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,480	The street gang What happened to the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once where members in the 1987 TMNT cartoon? Some gang members were never mutated, and they left Shredder and appeared in later episodes ("The Gang's All Here"). But som members were mutated (seen in the "Shredder & Splintered"). Were those who were mutated seen in later episodes? Or where they probably abandoned in Dimension X and threwn out of the Technodrome when the Technodrome went to Dimension X?

07-10-2007, 09:36 AM	#3
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07-10-2007, 10:14 AM	#4
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,480	Re-mutated Maybe Shredder and Krang didn't need them, re-mutated them to humans and sent them back to Earth when the Technodrome had been sent to Dimension X.

07-10-2007, 05:40 PM	#7
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	My guess is some were put to work taking care of the Technodrome, and maybe others de-mutated and sent back to Earth as local contacts. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

07-10-2007, 06:13 PM	#9
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,480	Without mutation Or maybe sent back to Earth without mutation. Like the Turtles, humams would fear them and they would hide to live in the sewers or something. Could be an interesting fanfic?

07-10-2007, 09:11 AM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,208	Interesting question, I really wonder why the were caged up in ep. 5.... I don't remember seeing them in any later episodes so I'm assuming they got ditched in Dimension X

07-10-2007, 04:41 PM	#5
weredog Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 49	I don't think Shredder and Krang would be considerate enough to take the time to de-mutate them and send them home. I picture a much more unpleasant fate for them. Stranded in Dimension X or executed when they proved useless. Something along those lines.

07-10-2007, 04:45 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,208	There is no way they got executed, just look at Bebop and Rocksteady they never got killed, and they ruined Shredder...

07-10-2007, 08:05 PM	#10
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,682	Eh, they were most likely kicked out and stranded somewhere in Dimension X. After all, the gang members we saw in 'The gang's all here' and any other episode that had the 'supposed' Bebop and Rocksteady's 'old' gang didn't look anything like the ones we saw in the first 5 episodes. I sure as hell don't remember seeing Jersey Red there.

07-11-2007, 11:32 AM	#12
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	In one episode shredder demutates one of them (he looked a bit like wingnut) to show off his cool demutating weapon. I don't recall the others being mutated but i can't remember 'their story' exactly anyways. In some later episodes they are seen caged inside the technodrome? And then disappeared? __________________ -

07-11-2007, 12:46 PM	#16
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	Maybe krang wanted baxters body to reside in it (didn't krang say at some point he wanted a 'warmth body'? Or is it again my fuzzled brain puzzling stuff from different cartoons together?). __________________ -

07-11-2007, 07:29 PM	#17
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,682	Makes no sense though when ya think about it. When Baxter was human, Krang was ready to dispose of him because he had no use of a useless earth creature.... Like Spawn Guy said, they didn't need Baxter's brain when they had Krang. And yet in 'Return of the Fly', Shredder tried to recruit Baxterfly with them, convincing Krang that 'he's the brightest mind since Einstein, and with him at their side, the world is their oyster'. It's like... make up your mind Shred-head.

07-11-2007, 09:26 PM	#19
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,682	well... Baxter was frozen in a big block of ice so he couldn't hear it anyway. Basically the guys froze some resevioir or something, so Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady and block-of-ice Baxter were all sent thrashing to the Technodrome along with several chunks of ice. Krang complains about their usual failures, but Shredder says it's not a total loss, since they got Baxter. And like I said, Shredder tries to convince Krang that recruiting Baxter is a good idea, despite the fact that both of them were so quick to dispose of him without a second thought 2 seasons ago. Baxter busts out of the ice cube, threatens everyone in the room and flies off.