red sky

fastforwarddregg · 07-23-2007, 08:01 AM

HOW COME BURNE, Vernon and irma got written out of the series in 1994??? How did fans recat to that and react to Shredder and Krang being taken out of hte regular cast in 1994. I saw a lot of the 1994 eps on yotube though AND WHY DID APRIL BECOME A FREELANCE REPORTER FOR ANOTHER NEWSSTATION WITH A NEW CREW?

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Another questions how did fans react toward the fact that the whole 1995 season did not have shredder and Krang at all??? what was that like for them??? i watched 2 eps of 1995 season on youtube and its like 1995 season is a whole new show compared to the turtles we all knew. I still view Shredder triumphant as the last episode as we all the turtle series.

Jon · 07-23-2007, 08:46 AM

Well, some of them did make appearences during the last couple of Seasons ( I recall Shredder and Krang had a few appearences during it, anyway). Just that the show took a different turn.

*gobo* · 07-23-2007, 08:49 AM

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HOW COME BURNE, Vernon and irma got written out of the series in 1994???

"Things Change"

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How did fans recat to that and react to Shredder and Krang being taken out of hte regular cast in 1994.

The news crew I didn't miss. Shredder and Krang I missed only because their replacements were so boring. Were Shredder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady tiresome? Yes. Were they more enjoyable than Krakus, Dregg & Mung? Also yes.

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WHY DID APRIL BECOME A FREELANCE REPORTER FOR ANOTHER NEWSSTATION WITH A NEW CREW?

Err... Good business sense, I would imagine. Channel 6 blew up. She opted not to go down with the ship.

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Another questions how did fans react toward the fact that the whole 1995 season did not have shredder and Krang at all??? what was that like for them???

It was a drag, but mostly because their replacements were so boring.

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i watched 2 eps of 1995 season on youtube and its like 1995 season is a whole new show compared to the turtles we all knew. I still view Shredder triumphant as the last episode as we all the turtle series.

I have to agree. Red Sky was "A Whole New Shell Game".

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Well, some of them did make appearences during the last couple of Seasons ( I recall Shredder and Krang had a few appearences during it, anyway).

Shredder and Krang were only in three eps of the '96 season, not at all in the '95.

*Scandia* · 07-23-2007, 09:22 AM

Glad to see I'm not the only one who did not care for the Red Sky episodes.

First and foremost, I do not like the new Turtle character designs. And April does not look quite as sexy as she did in previous seasons.

The 8th season was fine, though they could have kept the old design till they switched over to a different enemy.

And I honestly did NOT like Dregg and company AT ALL. Where did they pull him from? He would have worked fine for a couple episodes of the previous seasons- but not to have TWO whole seasons devoted to him. I would have very much preferred to see Karai and City at War.

And in the final season, things get quite convoluted with the future and past Turtles to fix the mutation and bring the life force to them. It would have confused the daylights out of little kids watching the show. I like the science behind it- but not everyone would be able to follow it as well as I did.

I still have not watched "Turtle Trek" and "Divide and Conquer". So I am missing two key episodes. Hopefully they will be up soon.

Jon · 07-23-2007, 09:29 AM

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I still have not watched "Turtle Trek" and "Divide and Conquer". So I am missing two key episodes. Hopefully they will be up soon.

Not sure (have to check again). But think at least one of those episodes (maybe both) is among the Bonus Episodes on the Classic TMNT Season 1 DVD.

Edit: D'oh, nope. Nevermind (just checked ninjaturtles.com and found that neither ep. is).

Spawn Guy · 07-23-2007, 10:22 AM

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Glad to see I'm not the only one who did not care for the Red Sky episodes.

First and foremost, I do not like the new Turtle character designs.

I prefered them.

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And April does not look quite as sexy as she did in previous seasons.

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Moving on.

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[The 8th season was fine, though they could have kept the old design till they switched over to a different enemy.

A stable animation style was better than nothing. The show took a more serious turn and the characters reflected that.

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And I honestly did NOT like Dregg and company AT ALL. Where did they pull him from? He would have worked fine for a couple episodes of the previous seasons- but not to have TWO whole seasons devoted to him. I would have very much preferred to see Karai and City at War.

Frankly anyone other than Shredder would have been a good thing. Yeah Dregg was a flash in the pan intergalactic warlord/con artist but I'll give him this: He wasn't Shredder.

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And in the final season, things get quite convoluted with the future and past Turtles to fix the mutation and bring the life force to them. It would have confused the daylights out of little kids watching the show.

I got it.

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I like the science behind it- but not everyone would be able to follow it as well as I did.

Don't we think highly of ourselves.

*Scandia* · 07-23-2007, 10:31 AM

Well I was a science major in college and am almost 30 years old.

Dregg may not be Shredder or Krang, but he's still LAME.

Spawn Guy · 07-23-2007, 10:39 AM

I was around ten and taking classes to compensate for a learning disability and I got it. Not that hard to figure out. And yeah, Dregg is lame, but honestly at the time it was nice to have a different bad guy to watch for once. And considering he reduced the guys and Krang to near life less husks and tricked the entire planet to handing itself over to him on a platter I think he has some redeming qualities.

*CyberCubed* · 07-23-2007, 10:56 AM

After 8 seasons of Shredder, it was nice to have a different villain.

jenna · 07-23-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Glad to see I'm not the only one who did not care for the Red Sky episodes.

First and foremost, I do not like the new Turtle character designs. And April does not look quite as sexy as she did in previous seasons.

Why not?

I thought they were awesome designs and much less variable than previously. Before Red Sky there was some really crappy animation.

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I like the science behind it- but not everyone would be able to follow it as well as I did.

Well, to start off any kid watching TMNT would have been used to the whacky approach to science a la our very own Donatello.

Just a suggestion here - maybe it might be time for you to stop telling everyone on these boards they are less intelligent than you. Just a thought......

The only thing I don't like about Red Sky is Dregg and crew and the hyper mutating turtle thing.

other than that:

Red Sky! YAY!

*Revan* · 07-23-2007, 06:43 PM

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After 8 seasons of Shredder, it was nice to have a different villain.

I agree but apparently the thousands of poser fans who saw the new movie disagreed.

*gobo* · 07-23-2007, 07:22 PM

Got your facts a little mixed-up there, cowboy. The thousands of poser fans who were ticked cuz there was no Shredder refused to see it. Only about 20 of those poser fans actually did (unless you count the people who downloaded it instead).

blue_angel99 · 07-23-2007, 07:39 PM

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After 8 seasons of Shredder, it was nice to have a different villain.

I agree. I think Shredder is an awesome villian, but seeing the TMNT fight Dregg and Mung was fun too. I thought it was cool how the people of earth thought Dregg was a good alien and made the turtles look like bad guys.

*VaughnMichael* · 07-23-2007, 08:59 PM

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Well I was a science major in college and am almost 30 years old.

Dregg may not be Shredder or Krang, but he's still LAME.

Yeah he was so lame that he almost killed all 4 turtles, april, shredder, and krang. Yeah thats not a well written villain or anything.

The guy came along and did what shredder and krang couldn't do for years I find that pretty funny.

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And considering he reduced the guys and Krang to near life less husks and tricked the entire planet to handing itself over to him on a platter I think he has some redeming qualities.

Exactly..and it was nice to have some one new around instead of omgz every episode we need to run and look for power for the technodrome, omgz it's them toitles lets tun away and fight another day doi dur dur.

EDIT: You I'd like to add that I find it really funny that the person who brought this all to s start calls themselves FastForwardDregg.

*Spitfire* · 07-23-2007, 09:08 PM

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Dregg may not be Shredder or Krang, but he's still LAME.

Why is he lame?

I don't know about you but having the same 4 villains in every episode gets a little old you know? When Dregg was around you saw them so little that when you did it was really cool because they weren't on the show every other episode.

*gobo* · 07-23-2007, 09:10 PM

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Yeah he was so lame that he almost killed all 4 turtles, april, shredder, and krang. Yeah thats not a well written villain or anything.

The guy came along and did what shredder and krang couldn't do for years

Shredder and Krang almost killed the Turtles and April plenty of times themselves. And, since the Turtles weren't allowed to kill, Bebop and Rocksteady almost killed Shredder and Krang a few times too. ^_^

*VaughnMichael* · 07-23-2007, 09:16 PM

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Shredder and Krang almost killed the Turtles and April plenty of times themselves. And, since the Turtles weren't allowed to kill, Bebop and Rocksteady almost killed Shredder and Krang a few times too. ^_^

It wasn't done in such a serious tone though Dregg drained every one of their life energies and Shredder who acted like Krangs creepy lover in the episode snuck out and saved Krang from perishing.
While the turtles where left to die at the hands, new powers, and krangs mind and Mungs creepy evil laughter.
And the only time I can really think that Shredder and the crew where ever any threat to the TMNT was in the episode "Night of the Rogues."
Oh wait nevermind they tricked others into almost killing the turtles.
And when did Bebop and Rocksteady ever come close to killing there bosses?
Because I can't remember that at all. I could think of a few where Shredder & Krang almost chopped of Bebop & Rocksteadys heads.
I'm being serious though I can't really ever think of a single time that they where ever a serious threat except for in the last season or so before Red sky and then during Red Sky Shredder really became a bad ass.
And also my entire point of posting was to show why Dregg is indeed not lame. I could list plenty more reasons to why Dregg was needed.

*gobo* · 07-23-2007, 09:41 PM

The Bebop & Rocksteady part was a joke about how dangerously clumsy they were. But, who was it that was about to shoot the Turtles with the retromutagen ray? Who was it that strapped Michaelangelo in the flush-o-matic on his birthday? Who tried to bake Leonardo and Raphael in a pizza until he started thinking he was Michaelangelo again? Shredde almost finished off the Turtles plenty of times.

*Spitfire* · 07-23-2007, 09:51 PM

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The Bebop & Rocksteady part was a joke about how dangerously clumsy they were. But, who was it that was about to shoot the Turtles with the retromutagen ray? Who was it that strapped Michaelangelo in the flush-o-matic on his birthday? Who tried to bake Leonardo and Raphael in a pizza until he started thinking he was Michaelangelo again? Shredde almost finished off the Turtles plenty of times.

But not ALL the turtles, except that one time. You'd think in all the seasons there'd be more then one occasion where Shredder almost killed all four turtles. But there isn't. Dregg did it tons of times and messed up the turtles lives more then Shredder and Krang did. Remember when he made Leo mutate all crazy? Yeah...

And that Mikey birthday episode was retarded "Mothballs!" That made NO sense at all.

*VaughnMichael* · 07-23-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

The Bebop & Rocksteady part was a joke about how dangerously clumsy they were. But, who was it that was about to shoot the Turtles with the retromutagen ray? Who was it that strapped Michaelangelo in the flush-o-matic on his birthday? Who tried to bake Leonardo and Raphael in a pizza until he started thinking he was Michaelangelo again? Shredde almost finished off the Turtles plenty of times.

Yes mr. James Edward ALMOST as you pointed out but Dregg Succeeded where others failed and learned from their mistakes, Hell he even wanted to work with Krang & Shredder but they where such glory hogs that they couldn't even think of anyone but themselves.
My entire point really is I don't see why people even bash Red Sky at all.
The series to me finally took things back to where it all started at.
Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Rat King and others where finally given a chance to shine again at the start also along with new characters.
The turtles came really close to having for the Mirage Look first time ever in animated form.
To me this is why Red sky is soo good it was just had great style, action, new storys, and new and old characters something that was really missing from the toon for a long time.

07-23-2007, 08:01 AM	#1
fastforwarddregg Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 164	red sky HOW COME BURNE, Vernon and irma got written out of the series in 1994??? How did fans recat to that and react to Shredder and Krang being taken out of hte regular cast in 1994. I saw a lot of the 1994 eps on yotube though AND WHY DID APRIL BECOME A FREELANCE REPORTER FOR ANOTHER NEWSSTATION WITH A NEW CREW? H Another questions how did fans react toward the fact that the whole 1995 season did not have shredder and Krang at all??? what was that like for them??? i watched 2 eps of 1995 season on youtube and its like 1995 season is a whole new show compared to the turtles we all knew. I still view Shredder triumphant as the last episode as we all the turtle series.

07-23-2007, 09:22 AM	#4
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Glad to see I'm not the only one who did not care for the Red Sky episodes. First and foremost, I do not like the new Turtle character designs. And April does not look quite as sexy as she did in previous seasons. The 8th season was fine, though they could have kept the old design till they switched over to a different enemy. And I honestly did NOT like Dregg and company AT ALL. Where did they pull him from? He would have worked fine for a couple episodes of the previous seasons- but not to have TWO whole seasons devoted to him. I would have very much preferred to see Karai and City at War. And in the final season, things get quite convoluted with the future and past Turtles to fix the mutation and bring the life force to them. It would have confused the daylights out of little kids watching the show. I like the science behind it- but not everyone would be able to follow it as well as I did. I still have not watched "Turtle Trek" and "Divide and Conquer". So I am missing two key episodes. Hopefully they will be up soon. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

07-23-2007, 10:31 AM	#7
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Well I was a science major in college and am almost 30 years old. Dregg may not be Shredder or Krang, but he's still LAME. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

07-23-2007, 10:39 AM	#8
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	I was around ten and taking classes to compensate for a learning disability and I got it. Not that hard to figure out. And yeah, Dregg is lame, but honestly at the time it was nice to have a different bad guy to watch for once. And considering he reduced the guys and Krang to near life less husks and tricked the entire planet to handing itself over to him on a platter I think he has some redeming qualities. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything Last edited by Spawn Guy; 07-23-2007 at 02:32 PM.

07-23-2007, 07:22 PM	#12
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Got your facts a little mixed-up there, cowboy. The thousands of poser fans who were ticked cuz there was no Shredder refused to see it. Only about 20 of those poser fans actually did (unless you count the people who downloaded it instead). __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-23-2007, 08:46 AM	#2
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Well, some of them did make appearences during the last couple of Seasons ( I recall Shredder and Krang had a few appearences during it, anyway). Just that the show took a different turn.

07-23-2007, 10:56 AM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,688	After 8 seasons of Shredder, it was nice to have a different villain.

07-23-2007, 09:41 PM	#18
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	The Bebop & Rocksteady part was a joke about how dangerously clumsy they were. But, who was it that was about to shoot the Turtles with the retromutagen ray? Who was it that strapped Michaelangelo in the flush-o-matic on his birthday? Who tried to bake Leonardo and Raphael in a pizza until he started thinking he was Michaelangelo again? Shredde almost finished off the Turtles plenty of times. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.