Cory Feldman and Secret of the Ooze...

Mandi-chan · 07-30-2007, 08:09 PM

I was listening to the radio this morning when the hosts mentioned that Corey Feldman and the "other Corey" who was a hit at the time ( and from what I understand, a friend of Feldman's) have a reality tv show. (I didn't catch the station it airs on.)

Anyway, they decided to play an audio clip of it.

In the clip, Feldman is trying to get the other Corey out of a slump (something about the two of them not being in "The Lost Boys 2"...) and he mentioned "TMNT 2: The Secret of the Ooze", making a comment that he knew how the other Corey felt, because he himself felt hurt when he wasn't asked to come back to do Secret of the Ooze.

I admit, the TMNT fangirl in me was fully paying attention at this point, was kind of excited at the mention of TMNT (despite it being about the movie in the 90's trilogy that I liked the least)...

But, now I'm confused?

Why wasn't CF asked to come back to do Secret of the Ooze, but was asked to do the third film?

I thought I had heard that he was in rehab at the time or something like that, but his comment implied otherwise.

Thoughts?

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 07-30-2007, 08:12 PM

According to the timeline Feldman gives, wouldn't he have gotten clean before the voice work for Ninja Turtles? I always assumed that he didn't do TMNT 2 because of drugs, but according to an interview his time in rehab was in 1988 and 1989.

*Vegita-San* · 07-31-2007, 10:49 AM

Being a guy, I didn't follow the Corey's......so I don't know.

But I was thinking about this last night. I think that Donatello 2 fit the Character better than Corey Feldman ever did, although I do like the voice he did for the character.

I almost wish they brought in the second guy for the third movie..

*gobo* · 07-31-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

Why wasn't CF asked to come back to do Secret of the Ooze, but was asked to do the third film?

My guess is because he tried to playwrite too much, thus making Donatello the lamest character in the first film. Since he wasn't right for the part, he was ditched for Ooze. When the third rolled around, and they had the budget cuts, they opted to let Corey back in because they could get him for peanuts as he was obviously eager to do it. I can just hear the producers saying, "Okay, Corey. We'll let you have the part again on the condition that you play him geeky this time, like we've been telling you to".

*Revan* · 07-31-2007, 12:45 PM

^ Haha my thoughts exactly. Though since the third film was the worst of the three it didn't much matter who voiced the turtles at that point.

Was Leo's VA the same for III as they used in Movie 1?

*gobo* · 07-31-2007, 01:11 PM

Yep. Leo's voice was the same in all three. So was Mikey's. The only voice-replacements were Don in Ooze, then Raph & Splinter in III.

*Revan* · 07-31-2007, 01:15 PM

^ Did they turtles voices sound a little different in Ooze than they did in Movie one to anyone else (excluding Don)? I always thought they used different VAs.

Thanks gobo

*Vegita-San* · 07-31-2007, 01:20 PM

According too the official site, Raph is different in two. But it's so close, one can't tell if so..

**Jester** · 07-31-2007, 01:33 PM

Raph changed through out the trilogy. Kevin Clash was replaced (along with Jim Henson's Creature Shop...stupid move) for 3. Not sure why the Feldster wasn't Donnie in SOTO, but I know one person on these boards who was glad...*coff*Jo*coff* In all fairness TMNT 1's Donnie was to "Three Stooges" at least by TMNT III Feldman played Donnie as a nerd....sorta.

*gobo* · 07-31-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

According too the official site, Raph is different in two.

OH MY GOODNESS! I remember someone pointing that out before, but I always thought it was a mistake. I just checked the credits on my DVDs, and they most certainly do have a different VA for Raph in the second. This is uncanny.

*Buslady* · 07-31-2007, 03:04 PM

I remember back then Corey was flying high wasted all the time and was in detox at the time; he was having ar ought time back then either way. Maybe they didn't want a known druggie doing a Henson job? I dunno. I think he coulda played a really good geekoid Donnie, the writers just simply didn't give him the time of day. Don was cute in TMNT1 either way.

Raph:

1 Josh Pais
2 Laurie Faso
3 Tim Kelleher
4 Nolan North

Of course, the best voice: Josh.

Attitude. Distinct voice. Totally Raph. I didn't like Faso's imitation, it was way off and the accent just wasn't right. Tim? Meh. Nolan...as good as Josh. If it couldn't be Josh, Nolan's is just as good.

*odupianist* · 07-31-2007, 04:43 PM

I must be in the minority. I thought Feldman's Don was good in TMNT1. Oh well.

Blithe · 07-31-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

I must be in the minority. I thought Feldman's Don was good in TMNT1. Oh well.

You and me both, Odupianist. We'll be a united front of two.

MoreCowbell5263 · 07-31-2007, 05:01 PM

I liked Feldman's Don, too, even though they showed him as being more of a stooge than a genius in the first one. He had just a couple little bits in the movie that would in some way imply that he might be a little smarter, like April asking him for help before Casey offers, or the idea that it's him working on the truck while Raph is unconscious (Raph being the one who works on the truck in the comics). Also the bit about where he, structurally speaking, says it wasn't a good time for more Foot to come in. Any others? That's offtopic though...

jerome · 07-31-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell5263

I liked Feldman's Don, too, even though they showed him as being more of a stooge than a genius in the first one. He had just a couple little bits in the movie that would in some way imply that he might be a little smarter, like April asking him for help before Casey offers, or the idea that it's him working on the truck while Raph is unconscious (Raph being the one who works on the truck in the comics). Also the bit about where he, structurally speaking, says it wasn't a good time for more Foot to come in. Any others? That's offtopic though...

I don't think they showed him being a stooge. I just think they were showing a more real and plausable charecter. I mean they just had their first battle in the opening scene of the movie. He hasn't been that exposed to the technology of the world above just yet. Plus i think of the 1990 film as sorta being a Batman Begins type treatment of the turtles. Its much more grounded and rooted in reality. The foot clan is a group of ninjas with ninja weapons. No sci-fi blasters no clones no aliens. The gang (which i always took to be the purple dragons) feeds into the foot and is there breeding ground.

I always thought that since most of Don's technical ability came from studying foot technology in the comics and such that that is where he got his technical ability from. Its not like he could just go enroll at ITT Tech or something

I think they did a good job of showing that he was interested in the more techy and mechanical stuff without making him unbelieveably smart.

oh and i liked cory as donnie. I just always assumed after the first one was so successful that he probably asked for more money and so they made the sequels without him just like Crispin Glover and Back To The Future.

*Spitfire* · 07-31-2007, 05:53 PM

I'm glad he wasn't in 2 I hated his Don. He sounded like a chain smoker. Then again I think I'm the only person on Earth who liked Turtles 2 the best but I have a very good reason and since I've posted them so many times already I'll spare you all.

*odupianist* · 08-01-2007, 07:38 AM

I agree with jerome. There wasn't much technology or gadgets for him really to act like a genius in the first movie.

*ToTheNines* · 08-01-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I'm glad he wasn't in 2 I hated his Don. He sounded like a chain smoker. Then again I think I'm the only person on Earth who liked Turtles 2 the best but I have a very good reason and since I've posted them so many times already I'll spare you all.

I used to like SotO better, but over time TMNT 1 has remained good while I've gotten bored with SotO. And I'd personally like to hear why you think the sequel is better.

*Buslady* · 08-01-2007, 08:52 AM

you guys make it sound like it was Corey's fault Donnie was the way he was, he's only the voice not the writer. Writers didn't give him his proper characterization, they made him immature as Mikey. They both seemed like 14 year old goofs. If the writers actually wrote Don right, I think Corey could have done a decent brainiac.

Courk · 08-01-2007, 11:17 AM

This may just be because I grew up knowing Donnie's the smart one, but he seemed smart to me in the first movie. He at least seemed like someone who read a lot, coming up with "bossa nova" and "bodacious." They had a phone and lights and stuff in their lair. I've always assumed those were products of Donnie, but it wouldn't really have been conducive to the plot to show him working on, say, installing a phone.

07-30-2007, 08:09 PM	#1
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	Cory Feldman and Secret of the Ooze... I was listening to the radio this morning when the hosts mentioned that Corey Feldman and the "other Corey" who was a hit at the time ( and from what I understand, a friend of Feldman's) have a reality tv show. (I didn't catch the station it airs on.) Anyway, they decided to play an audio clip of it. In the clip, Feldman is trying to get the other Corey out of a slump (something about the two of them not being in "The Lost Boys 2"...) and he mentioned "TMNT 2: The Secret of the Ooze", making a comment that he knew how the other Corey felt, because he himself felt hurt when he wasn't asked to come back to do Secret of the Ooze. I admit, the TMNT fangirl in me was fully paying attention at this point, was kind of excited at the mention of TMNT (despite it being about the movie in the 90's trilogy that I liked the least)... But, now I'm confused? Why wasn't CF asked to come back to do Secret of the Ooze, but was asked to do the third film? I thought I had heard that he was in rehab at the time or something like that, but his comment implied otherwise. Thoughts?

07-31-2007, 10:49 AM	#3
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,056	Being a guy, I didn't follow the Corey's......so I don't know. But I was thinking about this last night. I think that Donatello 2 fit the Character better than Corey Feldman ever did, although I do like the voice he did for the character. I almost wish they brought in the second guy for the third movie.. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?

07-31-2007, 12:45 PM	#5
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	^ Haha my thoughts exactly. Though since the third film was the worst of the three it didn't much matter who voiced the turtles at that point. Was Leo's VA the same for III as they used in Movie 1? __________________

07-31-2007, 01:11 PM	#6
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Yep. Leo's voice was the same in all three. So was Mikey's. The only voice-replacements were Don in Ooze, then Raph & Splinter in III. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-31-2007, 01:15 PM	#7
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	^ Did they turtles voices sound a little different in Ooze than they did in Movie one to anyone else (excluding Don)? I always thought they used different VAs. Thanks gobo __________________

07-30-2007, 08:12 PM	#2
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	According to the timeline Feldman gives, wouldn't he have gotten clean before the voice work for Ninja Turtles? I always assumed that he didn't do TMNT 2 because of drugs, but according to an interview his time in rehab was in 1988 and 1989.

07-31-2007, 01:20 PM	#8
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,056	According too the official site, Raph is different in two. But it's so close, one can't tell if so.. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?

07-31-2007, 01:33 PM	#9
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Raph changed through out the trilogy. Kevin Clash was replaced (along with Jim Henson's Creature Shop...stupid move) for 3. Not sure why the Feldster wasn't Donnie in SOTO, but I know one person on these boards who was glad...coffJocoff In all fairness TMNT 1's Donnie was to "Three Stooges" at least by TMNT III Feldman played Donnie as a nerd....sorta. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-31-2007, 03:04 PM	#11
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	I remember back then Corey was flying high wasted all the time and was in detox at the time; he was having ar ought time back then either way. Maybe they didn't want a known druggie doing a Henson job? I dunno. I think he coulda played a really good geekoid Donnie, the writers just simply didn't give him the time of day. Don was cute in TMNT1 either way. Raph: 1 Josh Pais 2 Laurie Faso 3 Tim Kelleher 4 Nolan North Of course, the best voice: Josh. Attitude. Distinct voice. Totally Raph. I didn't like Faso's imitation, it was way off and the accent just wasn't right. Tim? Meh. Nolan...as good as Josh. If it couldn't be Josh, Nolan's is just as good. __________________ Last edited by Buslady; 07-31-2007 at 03:10 PM.

07-31-2007, 04:43 PM	#12
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I must be in the minority. I thought Feldman's Don was good in TMNT1. Oh well.

07-31-2007, 05:01 PM	#14
MoreCowbell5263 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 300	I liked Feldman's Don, too, even though they showed him as being more of a stooge than a genius in the first one. He had just a couple little bits in the movie that would in some way imply that he might be a little smarter, like April asking him for help before Casey offers, or the idea that it's him working on the truck while Raph is unconscious (Raph being the one who works on the truck in the comics). Also the bit about where he, structurally speaking, says it wasn't a good time for more Foot to come in. Any others? That's offtopic though... __________________ Hope these guys aren't lumberjacks! No joke...the only thing safe in the woods...would be the trees!

07-31-2007, 05:53 PM	#16
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I'm glad he wasn't in 2 I hated his Don. He sounded like a chain smoker. Then again I think I'm the only person on Earth who liked Turtles 2 the best but I have a very good reason and since I've posted them so many times already I'll spare you all. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

08-01-2007, 07:38 AM	#17
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I agree with jerome. There wasn't much technology or gadgets for him really to act like a genius in the first movie.

08-01-2007, 08:52 AM	#19
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	you guys make it sound like it was Corey's fault Donnie was the way he was, he's only the voice not the writer. Writers didn't give him his proper characterization, they made him immature as Mikey. They both seemed like 14 year old goofs. If the writers actually wrote Don right, I think Corey could have done a decent brainiac. __________________

08-01-2007, 11:17 AM	#20
Courk Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 321	This may just be because I grew up knowing Donnie's the smart one, but he seemed smart to me in the first movie. He at least seemed like someone who read a lot, coming up with "bossa nova" and "bodacious." They had a phone and lights and stuff in their lair. I've always assumed those were products of Donnie, but it wouldn't really have been conducive to the plot to show him working on, say, installing a phone.