Fast Forward product observations

[Raphael_]

So, after having watched all the 2K3 series and Fast Forward, my thoughts are that it needed to happen to keep audiences interested. The original cartoon never did anything like this and began stagnating in about 1992.

I've noticed that many people seem to complain that Fast Forward is too kiddie oriented. I would not entirely agree with that sentiment for several reasons, most of which are in regard to the character of Cody being somewhat downplayed on a general scale. There seemed to be some kind of sentiment early on to make him a ninja-in-training, but then a shift was made to putting him in the exo-suit. When this sort of character would appear in a series, at least years ago, it was almost always the cartoon equivalent of a show "jumping the shark", as the way the character was portrayed was to let the child viewer live vicariously through the youth character onscreen (see Zack from season 2 of the original), usually a last ditch effort to continue to pull in viewers. Luckily in the case with Zack, this was thrown in during the initial TMNT boom, and didn't do any damage.

Another thing that may sort-of bother adult viewers is that there seems to be less focus on the character-versus-himself and character-versus-environment battles. What I mean by this is, this future is one that favors the TMNT, and as a result the turtles are left more to be themselves and focus on exploration and character-to-character conflict.

In other words, the product has been refreshed sensibly and still on a general scale provides for both the child and adult markets, the largely adult humor is still intact, as are the character personalities. Everything is still well explained, and the quality in storytelling is still there. I am continually impressed at the way loose ends are tied up in this series, including ones I didn't even think of.

Just be glad we didn't get the writers of Pirates of the Caribbean 3 for this one. Be very glad.

[CyberCubed]

Well it did what it was meant to do and kept the show alive for another year until the movie came out and gave everything a major boost.

Now thanks to the movie we're going back to the past and we'll see how things go from there.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well it did what it was meant to do and kept the show alive for another year until the movie came out and gave everything a major boost.

Now thanks to the movie we're going back to the past and we'll see how things go from there.

We are and we aren't you'll see lol.
And I think the show did jump the shark during Fast Forward by ending it to soon because people complained and now it has the most viewers.
They should have finished that second season so we could have gotten everything finished off and seen Space Usagi.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

We are and we aren't you'll see lol.

Umm, what do you mean by that? That doesn't sound quite as promising.

Anyway, I haven't watched much of the new cartoon but so far I've noticed that the pacing of the plots are quite different than the old toon. I'm six episodes in and Shredder has only been teased at this point! I like it, it's just that it makes the newer cartoon quite different, much like how a story that used to be told in one or two comic issues is now expanded to like six or seven issues.

[Raphael_]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Umm, what do you mean by that? That doesn't sound quite as promising.

Anyway, I haven't watched much of the new cartoon but so far I've noticed that the pacing of the plots are quite different than the old toon. I'm six episodes in and Shredder has only been teased at this point! I like it, it's just that it makes the newer cartoon quite different, much like how a story that used to be told in one or two comic issues is now expanded to like six or seven issues.

OK, big difference you don't really get told about jumping from the old to the new - almost NONE of the episodes are standalone. Every episode involves some previous character or plotline for the most part.

You're best off sticking to it and watching straight through, but the reward is that as you keep going, you get that epic feel from it, the beginning of season 3 is one of those apex points. Definitely feels like an animated comic book.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Raphael_

OK, big difference you don't really get told about jumping from the old to the new - almost NONE of the episodes are standalone. Every episode involves some previous character or plotline for the most part.

You're best off sticking to it and watching straight through, but the reward is that as you keep going, you get that epic feel from it, the beginning of season 3 is one of those apex points. Definitely feels like an animated comic book.

So far I get the feel that it's closer to the comics, with the origin story and the Baxter Stockman story and the Casey Jones one. Then they had the episode with Nano, and I didn't recognize that one, unless it's from an issue I haven't heard of.

I like it, it's just different. Which is good, because if you're going to go back and do something over, repeating it exactly is kind of a waste.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Umm, what do you mean by that? That doesn't sound quite as promising.

Anyway, I haven't watched much of the new cartoon but so far I've noticed that the pacing of the plots are quite different than the old toon. I'm six episodes in and Shredder has only been teased at this point! I like it, it's just that it makes the newer cartoon quite different, much like how a story that used to be told in one or two comic issues is now expanded to like six or seven issues.

It's nothing new if you've been a fan of the comics for years...the 2k3 cartoon is just a waterd down version of the mirage comics.
And there's been allot of talk about next season in the new toon section they're gonna have super awesome adventures trying to splinterd splinter bits in cyber world yay! *sarcasm*
& no Nano is a brand new character who was created for the 2k3 cartoon and

Spoiler:

has a happy ending in the lost season

[Raphael_]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

I like it, it's just different. Which is good, because if you're going to go back and do something over, repeating it exactly is kind of a waste.

Quoted for truth

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

they're gonna have super awesome adventures trying to splinterd splinter bits in cyber world yay! *sarcasm*

Ouch. That doesn't sound good. What is it with the current trend in cartoons for cyber worlds? That's how they lamed up Megaman IMO. What happened to people doing the fighting in person, one on one, as opposed to having other creatures do it for them like in Pokemon or doing it through cyber worlds? I have a crazy theory that these shows where people don't combat villains themselves and do it through creatures and card games and cyber worlds plays a part in the obesity epidemic, because the kids no longer have cartoon role models that participate in physical activity. Sure that activity involved karate (which could actually have been good if it encouraged kids to take up karate) and hitting each other with oversized mallets, but it was physical activity none the less!