Where did the Turtles' weapons came from?

ninjaturtles · 02-16-2003, 01:02 AM

Now, I know that Raphael's sais was definitely influenced by Daredevil's Elektra. But, where did Leonardo's katana swords, Michaelangelo's nuchukus (hoped I spelled that right), and Donatello's bo stuff came from? I'm just curious.

BigThew · 02-16-2003, 01:22 AM

i don't think raph's sai's were influenced by elektra

*That Matt Guy* · 02-16-2003, 01:45 AM

What the hell does Daredevil have to do with Raph's sais?

*Eye of Sarnath* · 02-16-2003, 08:55 AM

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What the hell does Daredevil have to do with Raph's sais?

Quick answer: it doesn't.

Staff and katana are pretty obvious weapons, they're not quite as exotic as sais or nunchucks.

*heretic888* · 02-16-2003, 10:03 AM

all of those weapons are staples of modern Japanese martial arts. THAT's where they come from.

**Karpo_007** · 02-16-2003, 10:44 AM

Yeah they are the most comonly used Ninja weapons in movies etc. Nothing to do with Marvel comics.

Kingkapong · 02-16-2003, 12:31 PM

the weapons are...awesome.

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 02-16-2003, 12:54 PM

Yes....but where did they buy them, eh??? The biggest mystery since the extinction of the dinos.

xZAOx · 02-16-2003, 01:18 PM

we've already had a discussion *similar* to this one. we were wondering where the turtles got any of their stuff hehe. we decided that since splinter is a rat, he scavenges in trash cans and dumpster.

so, im guessing they found them either at a back lot of a ninjistu school or something, or he may have gotten them from splinter's home, seeing as how his master was a martial artist guy.

**Karpo_007** · 02-16-2003, 01:32 PM

Oh! Well of course They got them from Yoshi's Martial arts school!

~~PWDESAI~~ · 02-16-2003, 05:36 PM

Well considering the tmnt aren't real, we just have to accept the fact that peter laird didn't go into ever little detail

Shadow · 02-16-2003, 09:15 PM

I've always had the theory that sicne they live in the sewers that they just are able to find money...I mean how many wall-street boys do you think drop a wallet or a few bucks while walking to work....

Just a thought

~~Reznorite420~~ · 02-16-2003, 09:54 PM

About the whole Daredevil/TMNT thing:

I thought there was a discussion about all that before, you know, The "Foot" parodying the "Hand" or whatever it was called, Elecktra (sp) with the sais, and even their origin...

Is it all just a big coincidence?

*heretic888* · 02-16-2003, 11:12 PM

except for the elektra/sai thing, no its not a coincidence. it was a homage/parody of the great frank miller.

as for the weapons, the most likely scenario is that splinter 'stole' them (technically they were his anyway) from Yoshi's apartment and/or martial arts dojo.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 02-17-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

all of those weapons are staples of modern Japanese martial arts. THAT's where they come from.

Actually, all of those "weapons" except for the swords started out as farm tools used by the Okinawans before Japan invaded the island.

Sai = pitchforks

Nunchackus = used in beating down rice patties

Bo = stick used for carrying water buckets

And I'll include some others as well:

kama = sickle

tonfa = crank for meat grinder

If you're wondering where I got that info, I learned all that stuff when I was in karate camp a long time ago.

*heretic888* · 02-17-2003, 12:37 AM

wrong. that is a very popular, but very wrong, misconception.

the sai, or jutte as it is more commonly known, was used by both Chinese and Japanese warriors for centuries.

the nunchaku was originally a Chinese weapon and is still taught in kung fu schools today... in addition, the 'nunchaku' Mike often uses in the comics is simply an adapted form of the manriki-gusari

the bo staff was used in both Japan and China for many, many centuries.

the kama is also a Japanese weapon, it is not Okinawan in origin.

the tonfa is the only one of those weapons that MIGHT have an Okinawan origin.

**GK Punk** · 02-17-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PWDESAI

Well considering the tmnt aren't real, we just have to accept the fact that peter laird didn't go into ever little detail

I like his answer ^^

**Karpo_007** · 02-17-2003, 07:52 AM

Well they didn't need to explain. Yoshi owned a Martial arts school. Doesn't take much thinking to guess where the weapons came from.

*Raph* · 02-17-2003, 07:58 AM

About the Sai being a farmer tool is true

Its even mentioned on the FOXBOX tmnt site (check Raphs room)

*heretic888* · 02-17-2003, 09:33 AM

no, its not.

that is a very, VERY popular misconception a lot of people have. i don't know, i guess i would attribute it to 'karate propaganda' or something like that.

do a little research, the sai is based on a chinese weapon. even in japan, samurai and ninja warriors were using the jutte centuries before the first karate punch was every thrown.

02-16-2003, 01:02 AM	#1
ninjaturtles Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 30	Where did the Turtles' weapons came from? Now, I know that Raphael's sais was definitely influenced by Daredevil's Elektra. But, where did Leonardo's katana swords, Michaelangelo's nuchukus (hoped I spelled that right), and Donatello's bo stuff came from? I'm just curious.

02-16-2003, 10:03 AM	#5
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem all of those weapons are staples of modern Japanese martial arts. THAT's where they come from. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

02-16-2003, 12:31 PM	#7
Kingkapong Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: T.O. Canada Posts: 548	the weapons are...awesome. __________________ Go leafs go!

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TMNT is cooler than MOTU Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Southern CA Posts: 858	Yes....but where did they buy them, eh??? The biggest mystery since the extinction of the dinos. __________________ Thank you for getting rid of Hamato Yoshi, Michael Bay and Co.! He was suuuuuper unnecessary.

02-16-2003, 11:12 PM	#14
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm except for the elektra/sai thing, no its not a coincidence. it was a homage/parody of the great frank miller. as for the weapons, the most likely scenario is that splinter 'stole' them (technically they were his anyway) from Yoshi's apartment and/or martial arts dojo. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

02-16-2003, 01:22 AM	#2
BigThew Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 574	i don't think raph's sai's were influenced by elektra

02-16-2003, 01:45 AM	#3
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	What the hell does Daredevil have to do with Raph's sais?

02-16-2003, 10:44 AM	#6
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah they are the most comonly used Ninja weapons in movies etc. Nothing to do with Marvel comics.

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xZAOx Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TN Posts: 842	we've already had a discussion similar to this one. we were wondering where the turtles got any of their stuff hehe. we decided that since splinter is a rat, he scavenges in trash cans and dumpster. so, im guessing they found them either at a back lot of a ninjistu school or something, or he may have gotten them from splinter's home, seeing as how his master was a martial artist guy.

02-16-2003, 01:32 PM	#10
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Oh! Well of course They got them from Yoshi's Martial arts school!

02-16-2003, 05:36 PM	#11
~~PWDESAI~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,873	Well considering the tmnt aren't real, we just have to accept the fact that peter laird didn't go into ever little detail

02-16-2003, 09:15 PM	#12
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	I've always had the theory that sicne they live in the sewers that they just are able to find money...I mean how many wall-street boys do you think drop a wallet or a few bucks while walking to work.... Just a thought

02-16-2003, 09:54 PM	#13
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	About the whole Daredevil/TMNT thing: I thought there was a discussion about all that before, you know, The "Foot" parodying the "Hand" or whatever it was called, Elecktra (sp) with the sais, and even their origin... Is it all just a big coincidence?

02-17-2003, 12:37 AM	#16
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem wrong. that is a very popular, but very wrong, misconception. the sai, or jutte as it is more commonly known, was used by both Chinese and Japanese warriors for centuries. the nunchaku was originally a Chinese weapon and is still taught in kung fu schools today... in addition, the 'nunchaku' Mike often uses in the comics is simply an adapted form of the manriki-gusari the bo staff was used in both Japan and China for many, many centuries. the kama is also a Japanese weapon, it is not Okinawan in origin. the tonfa is the only one of those weapons that MIGHT have an Okinawan origin. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

02-17-2003, 07:52 AM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well they didn't need to explain. Yoshi owned a Martial arts school. Doesn't take much thinking to guess where the weapons came from.

02-17-2003, 07:58 AM	#19
Raph Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 1,888	About the Sai being a farmer tool is true Its even mentioned on the FOXBOX tmnt site (check Raphs room) __________________

02-17-2003, 09:33 AM	#20
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem no, its not. that is a very, VERY popular misconception a lot of people have. i don't know, i guess i would attribute it to 'karate propaganda' or something like that. do a little research, the sai is based on a chinese weapon. even in japan, samurai and ninja warriors were using the jutte centuries before the first karate punch was every thrown. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)