Toonzone reviews TMNT Season 6 DVD (Bad Review)

*CyberCubed* · 04-22-2008, 09:54 PM

Toonzone reviewed Season 6 of the original TMNT DVD:

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=23246

If you don't feel like reading it, the reviewer basically said the show was crap and that it isn't worth buying.

I disagree with everything the reviewer said and not just because I'm a TMNT fan, but because I truthfully enjoyed all these episodes when I watched them on the DVD last week. What are your thoughts on this review?

*Roseangelo* · 04-22-2008, 09:58 PM

I think this person forgot that Ninja Turtles wasn't a serious cartoon.

*Revan* · 04-22-2008, 10:08 PM

He also forgot ninja turtles was HUGE! Every kid in my class loved the turtles for 5 years straight.

It was a money monster with enormous popularity. Who the crap is this reviewer?!

*MrPliggins* · 04-22-2008, 10:16 PM

It wasn't the greatest season, but DEFINITELY not the worst..

*Kendamu* · 04-22-2008, 11:25 PM

Someone should gift the reviewer Season 1. Season 1's flaws, in my opinion, only lie in the "wrong mask color/wrong voice coming out" in certain scenes... and I almost don't wanna consider it an error when all the Turtles had red masks during that one part in the first fight against Bebop and Rocksteady.

Jon · 04-23-2008, 02:14 AM

Haven't read this review yet, but Toon Zone is notorius for negative reviews anyway.

**Krang** · 04-23-2008, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I think this person forgot that Ninja Turtles wasn't a serious cartoon.

Exactly. Not only did he miss the entire point of the show by taking it way too seriously, but he also had some of the weirdest complaints I've ever heard about the original cartoon. He can't tell the turtles apart by their voices or personalities? Some of the characters' voices are "loud"? And since when is the Technodrome a "spaceship"?

The fact that the article was negative doesn't bother me, since I know the OT has its flaws and certainly isn't perfect. However, I find the whiny, self-important tone of the article to be very obnoxious. It's a shame that ToonZone didn't get a real reviewer to write an intelligent article about this DVD instead of publishing a worthless, ignorant rant by some newbie.

Jon · 04-23-2008, 04:12 AM

^ Well yes, that's also what I was meaning (along with Toon Zone having many negative reviews, alot have foolish reasons behind the negativity).

Ra · 04-23-2008, 06:03 AM

Just skimmed over it and ended up closing the window before I could fully read it. The guy didn't know what he was talking about, and was pretty harsh for a simple DVD review.

I think he has personal issues about how his mother would never buy him TMNT stuff as a child after seeing one episode, telling him it's the spawn of Satan and how it will turn him into a devil child. And so he suffered, watching his friends play with their Turtle things, knowing full and well that he would never be able to buy any for himself. So he then hatched a plan...to badmouth TMNT as much as possible to the point where they will have to be canceled! It was brilliant! No one could stop him! All he had to do was wait until he was a balding man still living in his mother's basement to write up a review and send it away. Who's the mad one now? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!...

...but yeah, considering how he feels all big and mighty ripping on a show made back in the 80's, I doubt he has much of a life.

*gobo* · 04-23-2008, 07:22 AM

Well, I'm not happy with this release, but the general opinion makes it seem not worth my time to read this ignorant whining. I wouldn't be able to stomach it anyway.

*Drtooth* · 04-23-2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krang

Exactly. Not only did he miss the entire point of the show by taking it way too seriously, but he also had some of the weirdest complaints I've ever heard about the original cartoon. He can't tell the turtles apart by their voices or personalities? Some of the characters' voices are "loud"? And since when is the Technodrome a "spaceship"?

The fact that the article was negative doesn't bother me, since I know the OT has its flaws and certainly isn't perfect. However, I find the whiny, self-important tone of the article to be very obnoxious. It's a shame that ToonZone didn't get a real reviewer to write an intelligent article about this DVD instead of publishing a worthless, ignorant rant by some newbie.

heh. That's pretty much all their reviews, Krang. they either smack of ellitism, or some sort of idiotic personal agenda. They do have some good reviewers that give a thoughtful deconstruction of the product, but then they have snarky twirps that write a bad review cuz they had a bad day (one even admitted it).

But here's what I have to say about it. A review on a message/news board are only more respectful than one posted on an Angry snot who hates his childhood blog. You know, the ones where theguy has a full vocabulary of every swear word known to man, but a vocabulary of like 5 other words.

So I frankly find it rediculous that people take stock in crap like this. Honestly. I'm not even bothering to read it.

Newton Gimmick · 04-23-2008, 09:13 AM

Whats with all the complaints of it being LOUD and how can a theme song be TINY? He complains it's not loud enough, then complains how loud it is. He says kids didn't like Slimer? He said TMNT was a group of Orkos?

Epic Fail.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 04-23-2008, 09:19 AM

Some people take cartoons way too seriously.

I'm not sure how good the show was at that point, but the earlier seasons were great. Yeah, a lot of it was based off of silly b-movie plots, but what's wrong with that? I wish another cartoon or sci-fi program would come along and be willing to not take itself so seriously and rehash old sci-fi movie plots.

The Shelf · 04-23-2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Whats with all the complaints of it being LOUD and how can a theme song be TINY?

Erm, that's tinny, as in high-pitched.

It sounds like the reviewer failed to realize that the show was supposed to be silly, but whatever. This is why I never bother to read "professional" reviews.

*VaughnMichael* · 04-23-2008, 11:28 AM

psh, I know this is one of my favorite seasons I don't need some internet dork to tell me what to like.
And I would hope that others have enough brains to think for themselves.

*Masked Ninja* · 04-23-2008, 11:41 AM

While I like my Turtles serious and he does have some points when it comes to flaws of the old show... jeez, it wasn't that bad. You kinda can't look at it as an adult; it was made for kids and it's best enjoyed in that context. There are some things you just forgive... like in Swat Kats where no matter how the villain is defeated, he's always going to come back no worse for the wear. And all those impossible missles. X)

The '80s turtles (and any cartoon, to some degree) are like that too. You enjoy the fourth wall breakage, enjoy the surfer silliness (though I don't really recall Leonardo buying hard into the "cowabunga" thing; the turtles were distinct, if not as much as in other media)

Sounds like this was a "had a bad day" review to me. Though I do concur that (for me) I enjoyed this show much more as a kid, there still is stuff to enjoy.

*Revan* · 04-23-2008, 12:00 PM

I found it humorous that he bashed the theme song.

what?
How can you give a dvd set a bad review and use that as a source? The theme was the same throughout the entire series until the red sky eps.
His opinions on the VAs was a bit shady as well. It seems as though it was a review of the series as a whole (which he clearly does not like) rather than just the season 6 release

**Jester** · 04-23-2008, 03:41 PM

Wow, I could hardly get the first few paragraphs. (Heck, I stopped after he called the series "abysmal". I agree that the show has it's flaws and sometimes makes me roll my eyes, but there are enough well placed jokes to keep me interested.

Season 6 has one thing that makes me as an aspiring VA happy, there are no episodes where an alternate is used. You hear James Avery as Shredder, Pat Fraley as Krang, Barry Gordon as Donatello, and of course Rob Paulsen as Raphael, and no lousy, "I'm glad he has like 3 lines" replacement.

TMNT had some of the greatest VA's ever in it. I'm kind of glad after reading some of the comments here that I didn't get as far as that in the article. I can handle people who were disapointed in TMNT in retrospect, but those people are very talented and are some of my all time idols.

EDIT: I finished it, and ohhhh boy! How could he complain about Krang? I'm sure he's one of those guys who thinks he knows better than a practicing VA how to do something. Reminds me of a guy who couldn't do the Goofy yell (Yahhhhhwhowhowhowhee!) and yet told me mine sucked.

*gobo* · 04-23-2008, 05:27 PM

Just so you know, that goofy yell was used on Tenchi Muyo! before 2K3. It was the title screen audio for the OVA series.

*ToTheNines* · 04-23-2008, 05:33 PM

He posted this in the discussion sec:

Yes, I did wonder whether this was a case of a late season being reprehensibly bad after the show had seen better days. The last dozen or so eps of Thundercats for example are TERRIBLE.

I should have mentioned that in the review to be honest, but -- frankly -- the quality of the those 16 episodes is so bad that I can't imagine the first 5 seasons being that much better.

It's something that has dated very badly that, I found, has no redeeming features at all. It ruined my own fond memories of it.

04-22-2008, 09:54 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,721	Toonzone reviews TMNT Season 6 DVD (Bad Review) Toonzone reviewed Season 6 of the original TMNT DVD: http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=23246 If you don't feel like reading it, the reviewer basically said the show was crap and that it isn't worth buying. I disagree with everything the reviewer said and not just because I'm a TMNT fan, but because I truthfully enjoyed all these episodes when I watched them on the DVD last week. What are your thoughts on this review?

04-22-2008, 09:58 PM	#2
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,107	I think this person forgot that Ninja Turtles wasn't a serious cartoon. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

04-22-2008, 10:08 PM	#3
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	He also forgot ninja turtles was HUGE! Every kid in my class loved the turtles for 5 years straight. It was a money monster with enormous popularity. Who the crap is this reviewer?! __________________

04-23-2008, 06:03 AM	#9
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Just skimmed over it and ended up closing the window before I could fully read it. The guy didn't know what he was talking about, and was pretty harsh for a simple DVD review. I think he has personal issues about how his mother would never buy him TMNT stuff as a child after seeing one episode, telling him it's the spawn of Satan and how it will turn him into a devil child. And so he suffered, watching his friends play with their Turtle things, knowing full and well that he would never be able to buy any for himself. So he then hatched a plan...to badmouth TMNT as much as possible to the point where they will have to be canceled! It was brilliant! No one could stop him! All he had to do was wait until he was a balding man still living in his mother's basement to write up a review and send it away. Who's the mad one now? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!... ...but yeah, considering how he feels all big and mighty ripping on a show made back in the 80's, I doubt he has much of a life. __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

04-23-2008, 07:22 AM	#10
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Well, I'm not happy with this release, but the general opinion makes it seem not worth my time to read this ignorant whining. I wouldn't be able to stomach it anyway. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

04-22-2008, 10:16 PM	#4
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,050	It wasn't the greatest season, but DEFINITELY not the worst..

04-22-2008, 11:25 PM	#5
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Someone should gift the reviewer Season 1. Season 1's flaws, in my opinion, only lie in the "wrong mask color/wrong voice coming out" in certain scenes... and I almost don't wanna consider it an error when all the Turtles had red masks during that one part in the first fight against Bebop and Rocksteady.

04-23-2008, 02:14 AM	#6
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Haven't read this review yet, but Toon Zone is notorius for negative reviews anyway.

04-23-2008, 04:12 AM	#8
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	^ Well yes, that's also what I was meaning (along with Toon Zone having many negative reviews, alot have foolish reasons behind the negativity).

04-23-2008, 09:13 AM	#12
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	Whats with all the complaints of it being LOUD and how can a theme song be TINY? He complains it's not loud enough, then complains how loud it is. He says kids didn't like Slimer? He said TMNT was a group of Orkos? Epic Fail.

04-23-2008, 09:19 AM	#13
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	Some people take cartoons way too seriously. I'm not sure how good the show was at that point, but the earlier seasons were great. Yeah, a lot of it was based off of silly b-movie plots, but what's wrong with that? I wish another cartoon or sci-fi program would come along and be willing to not take itself so seriously and rehash old sci-fi movie plots.

04-23-2008, 11:28 AM	#15
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	psh, I know this is one of my favorite seasons I don't need some internet dork to tell me what to like. And I would hope that others have enough brains to think for themselves. Last edited by VaughnMichael; 04-23-2008 at 11:55 AM.

04-23-2008, 11:41 AM	#16
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	While I like my Turtles serious and he does have some points when it comes to flaws of the old show... jeez, it wasn't that bad. You kinda can't look at it as an adult; it was made for kids and it's best enjoyed in that context. There are some things you just forgive... like in Swat Kats where no matter how the villain is defeated, he's always going to come back no worse for the wear. And all those impossible missles. X) The '80s turtles (and any cartoon, to some degree) are like that too. You enjoy the fourth wall breakage, enjoy the surfer silliness (though I don't really recall Leonardo buying hard into the "cowabunga" thing; the turtles were distinct, if not as much as in other media) Sounds like this was a "had a bad day" review to me. Though I do concur that (for me) I enjoyed this show much more as a kid, there still is stuff to enjoy.

04-23-2008, 12:00 PM	#17
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I found it humorous that he bashed the theme song. what? How can you give a dvd set a bad review and use that as a source? The theme was the same throughout the entire series until the red sky eps. His opinions on the VAs was a bit shady as well. It seems as though it was a review of the series as a whole (which he clearly does not like) rather than just the season 6 release __________________

04-23-2008, 03:41 PM	#18
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Wow, I could hardly get the first few paragraphs. (Heck, I stopped after he called the series "abysmal". I agree that the show has it's flaws and sometimes makes me roll my eyes, but there are enough well placed jokes to keep me interested. Season 6 has one thing that makes me as an aspiring VA happy, there are no episodes where an alternate is used. You hear James Avery as Shredder, Pat Fraley as Krang, Barry Gordon as Donatello, and of course Rob Paulsen as Raphael, and no lousy, "I'm glad he has like 3 lines" replacement. TMNT had some of the greatest VA's ever in it. I'm kind of glad after reading some of the comments here that I didn't get as far as that in the article. I can handle people who were disapointed in TMNT in retrospect, but those people are very talented and are some of my all time idols. EDIT: I finished it, and ohhhh boy! How could he complain about Krang? I'm sure he's one of those guys who thinks he knows better than a practicing VA how to do something. Reminds me of a guy who couldn't do the Goofy yell (Yahhhhhwhowhowhowhee!) and yet told me mine sucked. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 04-23-2008 at 03:50 PM.

04-23-2008, 05:27 PM	#19
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Just so you know, that goofy yell was used on Tenchi Muyo! before 2K3. It was the title screen audio for the OVA series. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

04-23-2008, 05:33 PM	#20
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,084	He posted this in the discussion sec: Yes, I did wonder whether this was a case of a late season being reprehensibly bad after the show had seen better days. The last dozen or so eps of Thundercats for example are TERRIBLE. I should have mentioned that in the review to be honest, but -- frankly -- the quality of the those 16 episodes is so bad that I can't imagine the first 5 seasons being that much better. It's something that has dated very badly that, I found, has no redeeming features at all. It ruined my own fond memories of it.