Titan TMNT RIP - Stories that could have been

TristanHuwJones · 05-23-2008, 11:20 PM

Hey guys! As some of you are aware, I was writing for the Fast Forward comics over in the UK. The comics, unfortunately, barely lasted a year, and included works by myself, Jake Black, and Simon Furman (I think Tom DeFalco may have been involved in one or two as well...?). Anyway, Ross May was also invited to pitch a couple of stories, and he's going to be posting his ideas up on his livejournal page, so go and check them out.

I remember there was a lot of interest in these, so in the spirit of idea thievery I have also posted my used, unused and rejected pitches. You'll find that most of the rejected pitches involved characters that were being used at the time -- namely Sho K'anabo.

It's a bummer because these comics were a hell of a lot of fun to write, maybe one day I'll be able to use them for Tales or something. Either way, take a look, enjoy, let me know what you think.

Check out Ross's story here at rossmay.livejournal.com, and then hit up my blog at the link in the sig!

PS. I've just finished one of my favourite images for the next issue of Cereal:Geek, so you RGB fans be sure to take a look.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-23-2008, 11:29 PM

Sorry to hear that, man. The whole mag is cancelled?

*Ninjinister* · 05-24-2008, 12:36 AM

I'm surprised you didn't know about it, Andrew. I started a thread on it back when Murphy first announced it.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=23670

*VaughnMichael* · 05-24-2008, 03:24 AM

While I know allot of members of this site hate Fast Forward I'm one of the Few people here who just can't enough of the brand new stories and direction.
Your ideas are great and I would have loved to see them as even episodes of the show had it gone on longer.
R.I.P. FF all over now...
I reallylove the idea of the Viral stories and the Savanti one!

TristanHuwJones · 05-24-2008, 05:23 AM

Viral was the ultimate villain in that world. A technovillain in a technologically driven future. She was one of those villains without limits... except that you could probably overuse her. I bet you anything she ends up in the next season!

*Hero* · 05-24-2008, 09:41 AM

I cant find the last issue ANYWHERE. This is bad.

===HERO

*ZariusTwo* · 05-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Sad to see you guys lose one of the only commercial TMNT magazines. I blame the industry more for the poor sales, there's no insenstive to make the magazines entirely strip-driven, which I beleive would have helped flesh out the storylines you were writing. Fun they were, but self-contained and minimal length thrown in with cliched puzzles and colouring pages can be a pain in the arse.

The UK comic market has been non-progressive for years.

I'm surprised Furman's TF movie-based comic is still around, seriously. As good as it is, I dont see it lasting much longer, the success of Transformers: Animated may mean they rebrand it to fit that series, and afterwards maybe you guys will get picked up and moved to that.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-24-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Viral was the ultimate villain in that world. A technovillain in a technologically driven future. She was one of those villains without limits... except that you could probably overuse her. I bet you anything she ends up in the next season!

That would make me so happy simply on the fact that I'd get to here people whine all season.

TristanHuwJones · 05-24-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Sad to see you guys lose one of the only commercial TMNT magazines. I blame the industry more for the poor sales, there's no insenstive to make the magazines entirely strip-driven, which I beleive would have helped flesh out the storylines you were writing. Fun they were, but self-contained and minimal length thrown in with cliched puzzles and colouring pages can be a pain in the arse.

The UK comic market has been non-progressive for years.

I'm surprised Furman's TF movie-based comic is still around, seriously. As good as it is, I dont see it lasting much longer, the success of Transformers: Animated may mean they rebrand it to fit that series, and afterwards maybe you guys will get picked up and moved to that.

Quoted for the truth! I'm pretty sure it will continue on as Transformers, but the focus will be split. I was invited to pitch for that way back when I started on tmnt, but it became dominated by Furman!

Back then it was going to be movie continuity for as long as they could get away with it and then g1 stuff. I'll be honest, while I loved the Transformers, and the movie, I hated Armada and everything related to it, and I couldn't even sit through a single ep of Animated. It just wasn't Transformers! I'm interested in seeing how it's recieved here in Australia (I saw it when I was in the US recently).

*Raph's Girl* · 05-24-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Viral was the ultimate villain in that world. A technovillain in a technologically driven future. She was one of those villains without limits... except that you could probably overuse her. I bet you anything she ends up in the next season!

Viral is one of my fave villians next to Karai. She'll definatly be in Back To The Sewers...especially considering the plot has Viral scattering Splinter's atoms across the digital realm.

*ZariusTwo* · 05-24-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Back then it was going to be movie continuity for as long as they could get away with it and then g1 stuff.

That's interesting. I can see your point since the UK are strongly rerunning G1 on several channels in conjunction with TF: Animated (which I beleive is the truest TF series in years), who knows if they will be eventually switch to G1 or Animated. Two extra original strips based on both would be nice, but again, Furman WILL insist on writing EVERY-BLOODY-STORY.

I liked the later portions of Armada, but that was generally because of some solid tie-ins to Unicron and that they stumbled on to a goldmine with Starscream and Alexis and never really explored it further.

TristanHuwJones · 05-25-2008, 03:03 AM

Yeah, unfortunately I think they'll bypass the G1 stuff though. With Animated being as successful as it is, I reckon they'll switch to that. And I'm pretty sure it'll all be Furman again. I like that the guy's committed and he is a very good writer, but I think he really missed the mark with a lot of the characters in the IDW reboot. That said, I dropped it after the fourth arc, so I don't know if it's picked up...

I just want to see a comic series that picks up at the end of the American series. Supergod Masterforce, Victory, Headmasters... they're all good and fun to watch, but I would love to see something totally new that picks up where it all ended with the original series.

My main beef with Armada was while some characters and arcs were really worth looking at, like Starscream, the rest were really shallow and not helped at all by the horrible voice acting. I liked the idea of it being this one gigantic story, but it just wasn't the Transformers I loved. There was a heck of a lot of talking without walking and even then the character development of a lot of the T'formers was minimal.

I'm rather dismayed by the state of cartoons these days. Granted, I'm in Australia and we either miss things or get them AGES after everyone else, but there really hasn't been anything truly worth watching in a long, long time (I think the last cartoon that impressed me was Clone Wars season 1). Looking forward to Spectacular starting here and TMNT getting off the ground again. I might need to give Animated another chance, but I really didn't like what I saw when I did.

*Hero* · 05-25-2008, 06:42 AM

I agree there. A primary focus on TF: Animated is the way forward. Plus having to draw ugly Movie style TFs is a horrible experience.

It is a shame that Furman did not get to contribute more towards TMNT.

===HERO

TristanHuwJones · 05-25-2008, 08:45 AM

Haha! It's bad enough having T'formers dominated by him, if Turtles writers got muscled out of Turtles by Furman I'd go mad!

RossMay · 05-25-2008, 10:41 AM

Hey Tristan, nice of you to advertise for me! I guess I should post in my blog again later today...

I don't read Transformers comics, but I recommend to everyone to watch TF: Animated. I know, some of the designs are pretty lousy and the vehicle forms can look like Tonka toys (which is oddly self-reflexive when you think about it) but the stories are fun for the most part and there are a lot of homages in there. There are a couple elements, including the origin of the Dinobots that I think are just perfect. And Tom Kenny as Starscream and Bill Fagerbakke as Bulkhead (Spongebob and Patrick Star respectively) are inspired choices.

PS
Trist, when are we going to do some Mario Karting?

TristanHuwJones · 05-25-2008, 07:44 PM

Hey Ross!

Just gotta move all my shiznit into my new room, shoulda had it done today but Uni assignments and writing gigs took priority!

I should start a Mario Kart thread here...

*ZariusTwo* · 05-25-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

Hey Ross!

Just gotta move all my shiznit into my new room, shoulda had it done today but Uni assignments and writing gigs took priority!

I should start a Mario Kart thread here...

Now there's a whole different ballpark...video game comics. Mario had a few from Marvel years ago, but no real effort to make it distinct the way the Mario Bros 3 attemoted.

You'd think with game magazines everywhere, they'd try the old chestnut again for younger ages. Sonic The Comic was a master of this, even Mark Waid began his career on a Streets of Rage strip.

Still, it's a market that's barely represented well in the states, ARCHIE all but closed out the Sonic stuff with their "25 Years Later" arc (yeah it's a "possible future", but ARCHIE are known for non-progression) , anything in between I call a "bonus". I dropped it after Bunnie and Antwoine married and they decided not to reveal Eggman's computer was the SATAM Robotnik...

*Ninjinister* · 05-26-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You'd think with game magazines everywhere, they'd try the old chestnut again for younger ages. Sonic The Comic was a master of this, even Mark Waid began his career on a Streets of Rage strip.

Damn it.

Every time someone mentions Streets of Rage, I get the jones to play SoR2. Trouble is, I have 9 hours of work left

Thanks Zarius >.<

Anyway, back on topic, the Viral possessing the Shredder armour (shades of things to come...?) and Savanti Romero ones sound like they'd be my favourites.

TristanHuwJones · 05-26-2008, 09:49 AM

In the script it wasn't so much Viral being in possession of the Shredder armour, more her energy combined reactivating it, combining with the CPU back up memory of the exosuit. I might adapt the Romero pitch for tales down the track. I'd love to tell a future Turtles story -- one eyed Raph, old Mikey...!

NightwatchersOnlygirl · 05-26-2008, 10:50 AM

It lots of cool posters and I loved the stories too

05-23-2008, 11:20 PM	#1
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	Titan TMNT RIP - Stories that could have been Hey guys! As some of you are aware, I was writing for the Fast Forward comics over in the UK. The comics, unfortunately, barely lasted a year, and included works by myself, Jake Black, and Simon Furman (I think Tom DeFalco may have been involved in one or two as well...?). Anyway, Ross May was also invited to pitch a couple of stories, and he's going to be posting his ideas up on his livejournal page, so go and check them out. I remember there was a lot of interest in these, so in the spirit of idea thievery I have also posted my used, unused and rejected pitches. You'll find that most of the rejected pitches involved characters that were being used at the time -- namely Sho K'anabo. It's a bummer because these comics were a hell of a lot of fun to write, maybe one day I'll be able to use them for Tales or something. Either way, take a look, enjoy, let me know what you think. Check out Ross's story here at rossmay.livejournal.com, and then hit up my blog at the link in the sig! PS. I've just finished one of my favourite images for the next issue of Cereal:Geek, so you RGB fans be sure to take a look. __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones Last edited by TristanHuwJones; 05-23-2008 at 11:27 PM.

05-23-2008, 11:29 PM	#2
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,438	Sorry to hear that, man. The whole mag is cancelled? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

05-24-2008, 12:36 AM	#3
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I'm surprised you didn't know about it, Andrew. I started a thread on it back when Murphy first announced it. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=23670 __________________

05-24-2008, 05:23 AM	#5
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	Viral was the ultimate villain in that world. A technovillain in a technologically driven future. She was one of those villains without limits... except that you could probably overuse her. I bet you anything she ends up in the next season! __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

05-24-2008, 09:41 AM	#6
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	I cant find the last issue ANYWHERE. This is bad. ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

05-24-2008, 03:24 AM	#4
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	While I know allot of members of this site hate Fast Forward I'm one of the Few people here who just can't enough of the brand new stories and direction. Your ideas are great and I would have loved to see them as even episodes of the show had it gone on longer. R.I.P. FF all over now... I reallylove the idea of the Viral stories and the Savanti one!

05-24-2008, 11:17 AM	#7
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,411	Sad to see you guys lose one of the only commercial TMNT magazines. I blame the industry more for the poor sales, there's no insenstive to make the magazines entirely strip-driven, which I beleive would have helped flesh out the storylines you were writing. Fun they were, but self-contained and minimal length thrown in with cliched puzzles and colouring pages can be a pain in the arse. The UK comic market has been non-progressive for years. I'm surprised Furman's TF movie-based comic is still around, seriously. As good as it is, I dont see it lasting much longer, the success of Transformers: Animated may mean they rebrand it to fit that series, and afterwards maybe you guys will get picked up and moved to that. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

05-25-2008, 03:03 AM	#12
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	Yeah, unfortunately I think they'll bypass the G1 stuff though. With Animated being as successful as it is, I reckon they'll switch to that. And I'm pretty sure it'll all be Furman again. I like that the guy's committed and he is a very good writer, but I think he really missed the mark with a lot of the characters in the IDW reboot. That said, I dropped it after the fourth arc, so I don't know if it's picked up... I just want to see a comic series that picks up at the end of the American series. Supergod Masterforce, Victory, Headmasters... they're all good and fun to watch, but I would love to see something totally new that picks up where it all ended with the original series. My main beef with Armada was while some characters and arcs were really worth looking at, like Starscream, the rest were really shallow and not helped at all by the horrible voice acting. I liked the idea of it being this one gigantic story, but it just wasn't the Transformers I loved. There was a heck of a lot of talking without walking and even then the character development of a lot of the T'formers was minimal. I'm rather dismayed by the state of cartoons these days. Granted, I'm in Australia and we either miss things or get them AGES after everyone else, but there really hasn't been anything truly worth watching in a long, long time (I think the last cartoon that impressed me was Clone Wars season 1). Looking forward to Spectacular starting here and TMNT getting off the ground again. I might need to give Animated another chance, but I really didn't like what I saw when I did. __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

05-25-2008, 06:42 AM	#13
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	I agree there. A primary focus on TF: Animated is the way forward. Plus having to draw ugly Movie style TFs is a horrible experience. It is a shame that Furman did not get to contribute more towards TMNT. ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

05-25-2008, 08:45 AM	#14
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	Haha! It's bad enough having T'formers dominated by him, if Turtles writers got muscled out of Turtles by Furman I'd go mad! __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

05-25-2008, 10:41 AM	#15
RossMay Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 177	Hey Tristan, nice of you to advertise for me! I guess I should post in my blog again later today... I don't read Transformers comics, but I recommend to everyone to watch TF: Animated. I know, some of the designs are pretty lousy and the vehicle forms can look like Tonka toys (which is oddly self-reflexive when you think about it) but the stories are fun for the most part and there are a lot of homages in there. There are a couple elements, including the origin of the Dinobots that I think are just perfect. And Tom Kenny as Starscream and Bill Fagerbakke as Bulkhead (Spongebob and Patrick Star respectively) are inspired choices. PS Trist, when are we going to do some Mario Karting? __________________ http://www.rossmaywriter.com

05-25-2008, 07:44 PM	#16
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	Hey Ross! Just gotta move all my shiznit into my new room, shoulda had it done today but Uni assignments and writing gigs took priority! I should start a Mario Kart thread here... __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

05-26-2008, 09:49 AM	#19
TristanHuwJones Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,419	In the script it wasn't so much Viral being in possession of the Shredder armour, more her energy combined reactivating it, combining with the CPU back up memory of the exosuit. I might adapt the Romero pitch for tales down the track. I'd love to tell a future Turtles story -- one eyed Raph, old Mikey...! __________________ Still alive (somehow)... tristansbones.bsky.social and instagram @ instagram.com/tristans_bones

05-26-2008, 10:50 AM	#20
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