Should Bishop be consider an anti villain.

godzod · 07-14-2008, 10:42 AM

I never thought Bishop was evil, He seem to have good intention but used extreme force to get result.

*Ninjinister* · 07-14-2008, 11:57 AM

Good intentions pave the road to hell, buddy. The man is a total xenophobe and will stop at nothing to rid the world of "freaks" - including murder, illegal genetic experiments, and faking an alien invasion while endangering the US president's life just to be able to get what he wants. He's more revenge-minded than anything. He got probed by Greys back in the Civil War, so he wants to take it out on all alien-kind.

*triplexxx* · 07-14-2008, 12:09 PM

I'd say he's more misguided/possessed than evil.

*Sage Ninja* · 07-14-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The S

Good intentions pave the road to hell, buddy. The man is a total xenophobe and will stop at nothing to rid the world of "freaks" - including murder, illegal genetic experiments, and faking an alien invasion while endangering the US president's life just to be able to get what he wants. He's more revenge-minded than anything. He got probed by Greys back in the Civil War, so he wants to take it out on all alien-kind.

I'm with the S on this one. Bishiop is like Demona from Gargoyals where he sees evil in the very thing that wronged him that he doesn't see the evil in what he does in order to "protect" his kind from being victims from the extra teristerials.

godzod · 07-14-2008, 03:23 PM

For those who don't know was an anti villains, Is a character tha employs extreme method for a noble cause.

**Jester** · 07-14-2008, 03:31 PM

Yeah, Bishop is a villain, but the best kind. He's a gray villain. He has motivations for his plans. He's the TMNT equivalent of Magneto or as already stated Demona

*Sage Ninja* · 07-14-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by godzod

For those who don't know was an anti villains, Is a character tha employs extreme method for a noble cause.

I thought that was an anti hero

*Drtooth* · 07-14-2008, 06:11 PM

Once again it goes back into the territory of what a certain show probably would have and should have covered. They didn't, and dwelling on it is useless. But I still think there was some hanky Panky about Bishop being the future's president....

Oh well, it's all fanfic fodder now.

And I would stifel to say what he's doing is a noble cause. I always felt it self serving, and just to further his own plans than any greater good.

I see him similar to Pretorious in the Mask cartoon. He's a scientist with a moribid curiousity for certain things. He'd destroy the entire world if he had to to prove he's right. Something the alien invasion episode showed us.

Casual Matt · 07-14-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I thought that was an anti hero

An "anti-hero" is a protagonist who isn't completely heroic.

An "anti-villain" is an antagonist who isn't completely villainous.

Anti-heroes usually use immoral means to achieve a noble goal.

Anti-villains usually use noble means to achieve an immoral goal.

Bishop could sorta be considered an anti-villain based on the fact that he is indeed a villain who isn't completely villainous, but his methods match that of an anti-hero better. But it's hard to consider him that since he's an antagonist, not a protagonist.

07-14-2008, 10:42 AM	#1
godzod Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 30	Should Bishop be consider an anti villain. I never thought Bishop was evil, He seem to have good intention but used extreme force to get result.

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Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Good intentions pave the road to hell, buddy. The man is a total xenophobe and will stop at nothing to rid the world of "freaks" - including murder, illegal genetic experiments, and faking an alien invasion while endangering the US president's life just to be able to get what he wants. He's more revenge-minded than anything. He got probed by Greys back in the Civil War, so he wants to take it out on all alien-kind. __________________

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triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	I'd say he's more misguided/possessed than evil. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

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godzod Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 30	For those who don't know was an anti villains, Is a character tha employs extreme method for a noble cause. Last edited by godzod; 07-14-2008 at 03:33 PM.

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Yeah, Bishop is a villain, but the best kind. He's a gray villain. He has motivations for his plans. He's the TMNT equivalent of Magneto or as already stated Demona __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Once again it goes back into the territory of what a certain show probably would have and should have covered. They didn't, and dwelling on it is useless. But I still think there was some hanky Panky about Bishop being the future's president.... Oh well, it's all fanfic fodder now. And I would stifel to say what he's doing is a noble cause. I always felt it self serving, and just to further his own plans than any greater good. I see him similar to Pretorious in the Mask cartoon. He's a scientist with a moribid curiousity for certain things. He'd destroy the entire world if he had to to prove he's right. Something the alien invasion episode showed us. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]