Most complex character

[Scandia]

Who is the most complex character in the TMNT universes? Which Turtle? Which non-Turtle character? Which universe is this character most complex and developed in?

And on the other side of the coin, who is the simplest, most one-sided character?

[Darth Shredder]

I'd say Raphael is the most complex Turtle. Donatello is probably the simplest. He's intelligent, yes, and has a "complex brain"... but that's basically all I've seen him to be.

[†Dr.Killpatients†]

In the New Toon - Raphael. In the OT - Irma and Donatello.

[drasgow]

i would say in the mirage comics michelangelo is the most complex. he seems to have grown and changed the most branching out from the original idea. becoming a writer and so forth. i don't really know who the simplest is.

[Jelly Bean]

I can pretty much end this discussion right now by predicting what most people are going to say. The majority is going to say that Raphael is the most complex of the turtles. Personaly I'm goin to say Don because of how obscure he is.

[Kendamu]

I'd say OT Casey Jones. Sit someone that crazy down with a shrink and you can probably make something really complicated of it!

[Scandia]

Somehow, I do not think that Raphael is all that complex. To me Donatello is much more complex- he is certainly not a one-sided stereotypical computer nerd. He is very kind and empathetic. Raphael on the other hand is shown as just having a short fuse and wanting to either have his fists do the talking, or in the OT use his tongue as a weapon.

As for simplest character, probably Vernon from the OT.

[TheUltimateShredhead]

I'd have to say shredder! It seems rulling the earth is the only thing stuck in his mind, so that makes very one tracked and complex in his personality type. And that makes him awesome

[odupianist]

I don't see Raph as that complex unless you say that "we don't know how he's so angry", but I don't even see that as THAT complex.

[Sewer Bull]

Being angry doesn't automatically make you "complex" and "profound".

[Darth Shredder]

It can help it, though.

[AquaParade]

I think one reason some people may think of Raphael as the most complex, could be because he is shown to be very short fused, but also has been shown as a heroic and loyal brother in some rights. One who would do a lot to defend his family. I can definitely see that, although I'd have to do a little more thinking before making a choice of my own.

[Warhorse]

Raphael. There's a reason why the movies have a need for the more complex characters to be the ones dominating the screen.

Webster's psychological meaning of the word complex.

a combination of emotions and impulses that have been rejected from awareness but still influence a person's behavior.

Let's see. Raph get's angry enough to the point he doesn't realize he's getting ready to kill one of his brothers.

He also get's upset enough to act irrationally, and get's very emotionally upset dispite his tough outer shell he tends to portray. He is the one Turtle that can be angry enough to kill, but be sad and grieved enough to cry or worse, exact his own revenge if pushed.

[Sage Ninja]

In the classic toon the most complex character would have to be Baxter Stockman. He is easily the most tragic character in the old toon and it adds to his appeal that he is a villan but you sympathisis with him. He is one of the few characters that really got screwed over bey every one he aligned himself with.

[MoreCowbell5263]

Most people believe that the badass tough guy with the heart of gold on each team is the most complex character.

People feel like Wolverine is the most complex X-Man. The Thing is probably the most complex of the Fantastic 4 (even though he's not really a badass), Batman is the most complex of the Justice League/Superfriends.

These characters have become quite the cliches, and I think that kinda takes away from my feelings in regards to how complex they are.

All the turtles have kinda two sides to their personality, and if I had to say one of them is more complex than the rest, I'd say Mike or Don. Mike is always seen as a pretty simple person, so I think seeing how complex he is would amaze people. Don has shown many sides to his personality in the comics. My vote goes to Mike.

[Scandia]

Nobody has voted for Leonardo. I think Leo can be very complex. He is not one-sided. He has shown interest in art and sports- it's not like his only concern is ninjitsu.

[TheUltimateShredhead]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

In the classic toon the most complex character would have to be Baxter Stockman. He is easily the most tragic character in the old toon and it adds to his appeal that he is a villan but you sympathisis with him. He is one of the few characters that really got screwed over bey every one he aligned himself with.

Your forgetting episode "Bye Bye Fly"!

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

Being angry doesn't automatically make you "complex" and "profound".

It does if you're someone who is really into the whole angst thing.

I can't really think of one. All of the turtles to me seem equal when it comes to "complexity". I'm going to say that Mirage April seemed the most complex. I don't know why. I think I'd need to have my memory jogged as to why.

[NameGoesHere1066]

I would say as far as turtles go Leo, with Don not being close behind.

as for other charcters, Karai. She sure as heck has some deep issues of loyality vs. honor. And Also Leatherhead.

[Jelly Bean]

I think Splinter is the most complex character other than the turtles. He is the only one that had his conscienceness before he was mutated and was smart enough to learn and remember ninjitsu.