the turtle fans are the most harsh on

Jelly Bean · 08-01-2008, 11:09 PM

which turtle do you think fans are the most judgmental and harsh on and are never happy with his character and have some complaint about how he is written or presented in the show?

*VaughnMichael* · 08-01-2008, 11:44 PM

Mikey he never gets a break, he's treated the same in almost every universe.

Darth Shredder · 08-02-2008, 12:34 AM

The old-school Mirage comics fan wants a Raphael that is borderline crazy, with testosterone levels off the charts. We didn't have that for classic toon, so imagine their reaction.

Mikey has stayed relatively consistent, whereas Raphael's characterizations have been all over the place in different universes. That's where all the main complaints have stimmed from.

Raphael.

NameGoesHere1066 · 08-02-2008, 01:45 AM

I'm going to go with Michaelangelo. He is the most raped of all the turtles in terms of portrayal and I see mostly fans complaining about him. My self included.

*Scandia* · 08-02-2008, 04:17 AM

Poor Leonardo hardly ever makes the favorites list. People say he is an uptight goody two shoes in pretty much all universes.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 08-02-2008, 06:57 AM

I'd have to say Michelangelo. He's usually been either really dumbed down or hasn't been given much character development at all. In the early Mirage comics his character seemed to usually be in the background with the exception of his solo comic.

Darth Shredder · 08-02-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Poor Leonardo hardly ever makes the favorites list. People say he is an uptight goody two shoes in pretty much all universes.

Leonardo always did have that Superman type of personality. I think people (unfortunately) often mistake responsible leadership for being a "goody two shoes." Leonardo is a well-rounded character nonetheless. He's definitely my favorite Turtle.

*CyberCubed* · 08-02-2008, 01:30 PM

Donatello. He's only ever appreciated in the old toon and the Mirage universe.

TheUltimateShredhead · 08-02-2008, 01:49 PM

I think all there unique personalities fills up the series, and there's no need to bash any off'em; mainly speaking from an ot perspective.

*Warhorse* · 08-02-2008, 06:40 PM

I always thought maybe Donetello. Sure, Mikey hasn't been portrayed in a positive light since the first action movie, but Donny often get's shoved to the background in all mediums save for the canon comic books.

And it's a shame, because Donetello is way more than just a smart turtle.

*CyberCubed* · 08-02-2008, 08:10 PM

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but Donny often get's shoved to the background in all mediums save for the canon comic books.

Not in the old toon either. Don had a big role in almost every episode, and was constantly saving the day. Honestly, Don felt more like a leader than Leonardo did in the old show.

NameGoesHere1066 · 08-04-2008, 10:15 PM

I think I'm also going to say OT Leonardo. Poor guy never catches a break from fans. Eighther he is to much of a teacher's pet or a goody-two-shoes, or he is to bossy, or he's whiney, he's not leader-eash enough. No one has anything nice or posetive to say about OT Leonardo. I've even heard people say that he sounds gay, WTF?

Jelly Bean · 08-05-2008, 11:12 AM

I guess I'm guilty of this, to be honest 80's Leonardo hasn't really impressed me to much. He comes across to me as a wanna be Leader than an actual leader. Only found him convincing in season one and what I've seen a of season two.

I was very turned off by his behavior in Snakes Alive.

*Kendamu* · 08-05-2008, 12:21 PM

Venus. Fans were so harsh on Venus that she was given a Retcon Punch by Peter Laird.

*Drtooth* · 08-05-2008, 02:00 PM

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Venus. Fans were so harsh on Venus that she was given a Retcon Punch by Peter Laird.

I was just about to say her. Not that they shouldn't have been hard on her.... she had ZERO personality and came off as a fifth wheel. Plus, she was basically created to satiate the need for a possitive female role model in a Kid's show. Too bad the idea of putting in April came into the unproduced second season. I thought the show had potential, but it just fell flat after Venus was introduced.

*Kendamu* · 08-05-2008, 02:03 PM

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I was just about to say her. Not that they shouldn't have been hard on her.... she had ZERO personality and came off as a fifth wheel. Plus, she was basically created to satiate the need for a possitive female role model in a Kid's show. Too bad the idea of putting in April came into the unproduced second season. I thought the show had potential, but it just fell flat after Venus was introduced.

Well, I never meant to imply that her being wiped out of existence (based on how she was in NT:NM) wasn't deserved. But, still, fans were harsh on her, even if it was for good reason.

Darth Shredder · 08-05-2008, 02:35 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Venus brought back, possibly as a cameo in an alternate timeline or something... the writers can flesh her out, work on that weak, cliche "strong female" personality, and give us a Turtle to remember.

NameGoesHere1066 · 08-08-2008, 12:00 AM

My goodness, hell no!

Darth Shredder · 08-08-2008, 12:30 AM

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My goodness, hell no!

I saw that one coming!

And don't get me wrong. I despise TNM. Their interpretation of the Shredder was a total farce.

*Sage Ninja* · 08-14-2008, 11:11 AM

I really think it's Michaelangelo. No matter what role he plays or medium he is in, theres complaints about him being stupid, childish or useless. If he gets lots of screen time people complain about how annoying he is, if he get little screen time people complain that he is under used. Most of the time when fans are talking about the turtles there is always something posetive said about Raph, Don, or Leo, but Mikey ushaully gets a long list of complaints no matter what he does. I'm also guilty of this but thinking this over I think Mikey is the turtle fans are least likely to find something redeemable about his actions opr over-all demeener.

08-02-2008, 01:45 AM	#4
NameGoesHere1066 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at home LOL Posts: 957	I'm going to go with Michaelangelo. He is the most raped of all the turtles in terms of portrayal and I see mostly fans complaining about him. My self included. __________________ ]

08-02-2008, 04:17 AM	#5
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Poor Leonardo hardly ever makes the favorites list. People say he is an uptight goody two shoes in pretty much all universes. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

08-04-2008, 10:15 PM	#12
NameGoesHere1066 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at home LOL Posts: 957	I think I'm also going to say OT Leonardo. Poor guy never catches a break from fans. Eighther he is to much of a teacher's pet or a goody-two-shoes, or he is to bossy, or he's whiney, he's not leader-eash enough. No one has anything nice or posetive to say about OT Leonardo. I've even heard people say that he sounds gay, WTF? __________________ ]

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NameGoesHere1066 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at home LOL Posts: 957	My goodness, hell no! __________________ ]

08-14-2008, 11:11 AM	#20
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	I really think it's Michaelangelo. No matter what role he plays or medium he is in, theres complaints about him being stupid, childish or useless. If he gets lots of screen time people complain about how annoying he is, if he get little screen time people complain that he is under used. Most of the time when fans are talking about the turtles there is always something posetive said about Raph, Don, or Leo, but Mikey ushaully gets a long list of complaints no matter what he does. I'm also guilty of this but thinking this over I think Mikey is the turtle fans are least likely to find something redeemable about his actions opr over-all demeener. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

08-01-2008, 11:44 PM	#2
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	Mikey he never gets a break, he's treated the same in almost every universe.

08-02-2008, 12:34 AM	#3
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	The old-school Mirage comics fan wants a Raphael that is borderline crazy, with testosterone levels off the charts. We didn't have that for classic toon, so imagine their reaction. Mikey has stayed relatively consistent, whereas Raphael's characterizations have been all over the place in different universes. That's where all the main complaints have stimmed from. Raphael.

08-02-2008, 06:57 AM	#6
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I'd have to say Michelangelo. He's usually been either really dumbed down or hasn't been given much character development at all. In the early Mirage comics his character seemed to usually be in the background with the exception of his solo comic.

08-02-2008, 01:30 PM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,701	Donatello. He's only ever appreciated in the old toon and the Mirage universe.

08-02-2008, 01:49 PM	#9
TheUltimateShredhead Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 642	I think all there unique personalities fills up the series, and there's no need to bash any off'em; mainly speaking from an ot perspective.

08-02-2008, 06:40 PM	#10
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	I always thought maybe Donetello. Sure, Mikey hasn't been portrayed in a positive light since the first action movie, but Donny often get's shoved to the background in all mediums save for the canon comic books. And it's a shame, because Donetello is way more than just a smart turtle.

08-05-2008, 12:21 PM	#14
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Venus. Fans were so harsh on Venus that she was given a Retcon Punch by Peter Laird.

08-05-2008, 02:35 PM	#17
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	I wouldn't mind seeing Venus brought back, possibly as a cameo in an alternate timeline or something... the writers can flesh her out, work on that weak, cliche "strong female" personality, and give us a Turtle to remember.