Turtles Vs. Batman

quinnmjohnson · 08-15-2008, 08:36 AM

Okay, this is purely for fun seeing as how everybody's got their opinion (some likely VERY strong) about stuff like this and of course there's no way you could ever have a definitive answer. But just for the heck of it...

A while back in the TMNT comics letters page someone asked Peter Laird his opinion on who would win in a fight between the TMNT and Spider-Man. His answer was that if it was a fight to knock out the other guy, then Spider-Man would win. But if it was a fight to KILL the other guy, then the TMNT would win. Fascinating indeed...

Seeing as how The Dark Knight is huge right now (and rightly so--one of the best movies I've ever seen), who would win in a fight between the TMNT and Batman?

Let the opinionated fanboy bashing begin!!!

Evenstar227 · 08-15-2008, 08:55 AM

Are we talking all four Turtles vs Batman? If so, I think it would be the Turtles for sure, if only for the fact of superior numbers AND that they know how to attack together (that's important!).

If it were a one-on-one fight, it might depend on the Turtle. Batman has a lot of spiffy gadgets, so that could give him an edge. To me, Leo is the one who would have the best shot at taking out Batman on his own.

The "kill or no kill" aspect could have bearing in this instance, too. I'm not familiar with the Batman comics, only the cartoons & movies, but Batman never seemed to be one to kill, same as Spidey. Pete's opinion might hold sway here, too.

*Guitar_Raph* · 08-15-2008, 09:55 AM

I see this topic & raise it this way!

Batman driving his Bat-Cycle against Raph driving his Shell Cycle! Who would win that motorcycle race?

*sdp* · 08-15-2008, 01:30 PM

Simple question. All we need to know is.....

does batman have enough time to prepare?

*

*To those unfamiliar, Batman can defeat anyone if he has enough time to prepare

**Jester** · 08-15-2008, 01:37 PM

1 well trained ninja versus a team of 4 well trained ninjas....hmmm....let me think...

*Drtooth* · 08-15-2008, 02:53 PM

The heck with Turtles vs Batman... I wanna theorize the Turtles vs Joker myself. The Turtles would win that fight, no doubt (being the good guys, after all)... but they way they'd fight would be uncanny

Evenstar227 · 08-15-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drtooth

The heck with Turtles vs Batman... I wanna theorize the Turtles vs Joker myself. The Turtles would win that fight, no doubt (being the good guys, after all)... but they way they'd fight would be uncanny

This is TMNT vs a DC character, man. If you wanna talk Marvel go start your own thread.

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2008, 03:31 PM

If the TMNT didn't kill him the first time they fought I think Batman would win round 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph

Batman driving his Bat-Cycle against Raph driving his Shell Cycle! Who would win that motorcycle race?

Alright Laird, you've been found.

*Cure* · 08-15-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenstar227

This is TMNT vs a DC character, man. If you wanna talk Marvel go start your own thread.

Are you joking? Cuz if you are, I don't get it.

Darth Shredder · 08-15-2008, 05:17 PM

Batman is proficient in taking on highly-trained multiple assailants. He does it all the time, as a matter of a fact. He's also more focused, mature, and has an assload more experience at combat than the Turtles.

He would mop the floor with them in seconds.

*KROW* · 08-15-2008, 05:45 PM

I'm getting a flashback from four years ago. And considering how that old thread ended, I'm not going to choose a winner.

TheUltimateShredhead · 08-16-2008, 06:01 AM

Im not to well known with batman, but im sticking with the turtles anyway.

*ToTheNines* · 08-16-2008, 09:47 AM

Ooh, I have neat idea.

Mirage TMNT vs. Batman Comics = I'd say Batman, but it's close.

OT Turtle's vs. Batman: The Animated Series = This would be brutal, I don't think this version of Batman would be hurt by someone squirting pipe water at him.

TMNT '90 vs Tim Burton's Batman = I gotta give it to the turtles here.

Secret of the Ooze vs. Batman Forever = I got Batman here, the turtles were horrid fighters in this one, plus this Batman was Doc Holliday.

TMNT III vs. Batman and Robin = I'd say turtles, but then again they'd have to deal with Batgirl this time. Ah forget it, Clooney would get his ass kicked

Next Mutation vs. the Birds of Prey = Wow... Turtles, for no reason.

2k3 TMNT vs. The Batman = They'd pwn the sh*t out of him.

TMNT Fast Forward vs. Batman Beyond = Terry's Batsuit was just too cool, plus his villains are way better.

TMNT 07 vs. Nolan's Batman = Another brutal beatdown of the turtles.

I know I left out video games, Archie and Image (Plus alot of Batman stuff), but by this count I have:
Batman - 5
TMNT - 4

**GK Punk** · 08-16-2008, 09:51 AM

Batman. Easily.

*oldmanwinters* · 08-16-2008, 09:55 AM

I'll go with the Dark Knight. But I can see Volume One Mirage Turtles or NT Leonardo forcing Bats into a stalemate. Don't forget, the Turtles battle multiple and overwhelming numbers of trained Ninja assassins just like Batman does.

Darth Shredder · 08-16-2008, 12:15 PM

Well, depending which universe you're speaking of, the enemies that the Turtles are victorious against consist of half-schooled individuals, who are mostly incompetent. In the Original Movie, the Foot are teenagers who are rather poor at fighting when you get down to it. In the Classic Toon, they're cyborgs that aren't any more impressive than the Foot of the movie. In Secret of the Ooze, Toka and Razar are mentally handicapped child monsters... of whom the Turtles can't overpower in any fight. Yet Batman, only one man, has been known to best Bane in martial arts. Bane is bigger than either Toka and Razar, and has a genius intellect to back it all up.

*oldmanwinters* · 08-16-2008, 12:49 PM

True, but remember Volume 1, number 1:

"These guys are good...
But we...
are...
better!"

Darth Shredder · 08-16-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

"These guys are good...
But we...
are...
better!"

That doesn't sound hard.

quinnmjohnson · 08-16-2008, 01:27 PM

For me, I'm a bit biased since Leonardo is my favorite. But keep in mind that he did go toe-to-toe with the Shredder (who is arguably the most dangerous and skilled ninja / crime lord in the Mirage universe) and beat him. So Leonardo alone would be a huge challenge for Batman. Put all four Turtles together as a team and Batman's got some real trouble on his hands. However, as has been mentioned already, Batman is a master strategist, so if he had a chance to think things through and plan, he could give the Turtles real trouble too. There was that moment in the Dark Knight Returns where he basically beat (or at least equaled) Superman. I love his line (could have been from The Dark Knight Strikes Again): "Your problem is you've always been so powerful that you've never had to learn strategy." And that's where Batman truly excels.

All that being said, while the Turtles are more inclined to kill than Batman, they also prefer lives of peace and would never just go and spill innocent blood, especially from one as noble as Batman. And he'd feel the same way about them.

So again, I'm not sure on this one.

What I'd love to see though is Batman approaching a horde of his rogue's gallery (Joker, Two-Face, Scarecrow, etc.) from the shadows; they all smile, mocking him that he's dead meat; then he just says, "There's something you haven't thought about." The Joker says, "Like what?" Batman: "Back-up." Then the four Turtles emerge from the darkness behind him. Then the butt-kicking really begins!

One can dream, anyway.

Darth Shredder · 08-16-2008, 01:59 PM

A one-shot TMNT and Batman team-up could be cool. Not that Batman needs backup really. He's a one man army in and of himself.

On a note for this thread: The TMNT are on their way to mastering Ninjutsu. But Batman has already mastered not only Ninjutsu, but a very wide range of martial arts. He traveled the globe for years learning everything he could from the greatest forms.

08-15-2008, 08:36 AM	#1
quinnmjohnson Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 42	Turtles Vs. Batman Okay, this is purely for fun seeing as how everybody's got their opinion (some likely VERY strong) about stuff like this and of course there's no way you could ever have a definitive answer. But just for the heck of it... A while back in the TMNT comics letters page someone asked Peter Laird his opinion on who would win in a fight between the TMNT and Spider-Man. His answer was that if it was a fight to knock out the other guy, then Spider-Man would win. But if it was a fight to KILL the other guy, then the TMNT would win. Fascinating indeed... Seeing as how The Dark Knight is huge right now (and rightly so--one of the best movies I've ever seen), who would win in a fight between the TMNT and Batman? Let the opinionated fanboy bashing begin!!! __________________ Elders of the RuneStone http://RuneStoneComic.com/ Movie Trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72EPo9rq8vY

08-15-2008, 08:55 AM	#2
Evenstar227 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 42 Burr Hill Rd Posts: 513	Are we talking all four Turtles vs Batman? If so, I think it would be the Turtles for sure, if only for the fact of superior numbers AND that they know how to attack together (that's important!). If it were a one-on-one fight, it might depend on the Turtle. Batman has a lot of spiffy gadgets, so that could give him an edge. To me, Leo is the one who would have the best shot at taking out Batman on his own. The "kill or no kill" aspect could have bearing in this instance, too. I'm not familiar with the Batman comics, only the cartoons & movies, but Batman never seemed to be one to kill, same as Spidey. Pete's opinion might hold sway here, too. __________________ In the beginning...

08-15-2008, 09:55 AM	#3
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	I see this topic & raise it this way! Batman driving his Bat-Cycle against Raph driving his Shell Cycle! Who would win that motorcycle race? __________________ Mikey drums with nunchucks!

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sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,215	Simple question. All we need to know is..... does batman have enough time to prepare? * To those unfamiliar, Batman can defeat anyone if he has enough time to prepare __________________ Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	1 well trained ninja versus a team of 4 well trained ninjas....hmmm....let me think... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-15-2008, 02:53 PM	#6
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	The heck with Turtles vs Batman... I wanna theorize the Turtles vs Joker myself. The Turtles would win that fight, no doubt (being the good guys, after all)... but they way they'd fight would be uncanny __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-15-2008, 05:17 PM	#10
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	Batman is proficient in taking on highly-trained multiple assailants. He does it all the time, as a matter of a fact. He's also more focused, mature, and has an assload more experience at combat than the Turtles. He would mop the floor with them in seconds.

08-15-2008, 05:45 PM	#11
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	I'm getting a flashback from four years ago. And considering how that old thread ended, I'm not going to choose a winner. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

08-16-2008, 06:01 AM	#12
TheUltimateShredhead Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 642	Im not to well known with batman, but im sticking with the turtles anyway.

08-16-2008, 09:47 AM	#13
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,341	Ooh, I have neat idea. Mirage TMNT vs. Batman Comics = I'd say Batman, but it's close. OT Turtle's vs. Batman: The Animated Series = This would be brutal, I don't think this version of Batman would be hurt by someone squirting pipe water at him. TMNT '90 vs Tim Burton's Batman = I gotta give it to the turtles here. Secret of the Ooze vs. Batman Forever = I got Batman here, the turtles were horrid fighters in this one, plus this Batman was Doc Holliday. TMNT III vs. Batman and Robin = I'd say turtles, but then again they'd have to deal with Batgirl this time. Ah forget it, Clooney would get his ass kicked Next Mutation vs. the Birds of Prey = Wow... Turtles, for no reason. 2k3 TMNT vs. The Batman = They'd pwn the sh*t out of him. TMNT Fast Forward vs. Batman Beyond = Terry's Batsuit was just too cool, plus his villains are way better. TMNT 07 vs. Nolan's Batman = Another brutal beatdown of the turtles. I know I left out video games, Archie and Image (Plus alot of Batman stuff), but by this count I have: Batman - 5 TMNT - 4

08-16-2008, 09:51 AM	#14
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Batman. Easily.

08-16-2008, 09:55 AM	#15
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,497	I'll go with the Dark Knight. But I can see Volume One Mirage Turtles or NT Leonardo forcing Bats into a stalemate. Don't forget, the Turtles battle multiple and overwhelming numbers of trained Ninja assassins just like Batman does. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

08-16-2008, 12:15 PM	#16
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	Well, depending which universe you're speaking of, the enemies that the Turtles are victorious against consist of half-schooled individuals, who are mostly incompetent. In the Original Movie, the Foot are teenagers who are rather poor at fighting when you get down to it. In the Classic Toon, they're cyborgs that aren't any more impressive than the Foot of the movie. In Secret of the Ooze, Toka and Razar are mentally handicapped child monsters... of whom the Turtles can't overpower in any fight. Yet Batman, only one man, has been known to best Bane in martial arts. Bane is bigger than either Toka and Razar, and has a genius intellect to back it all up. Last edited by Darth Shredder; 08-16-2008 at 12:24 PM.

08-16-2008, 12:49 PM	#17
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,497	True, but remember Volume 1, number 1: "These guys are good... But we... are... better!" __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

08-16-2008, 01:27 PM	#19
quinnmjohnson Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 42	For me, I'm a bit biased since Leonardo is my favorite. But keep in mind that he did go toe-to-toe with the Shredder (who is arguably the most dangerous and skilled ninja / crime lord in the Mirage universe) and beat him. So Leonardo alone would be a huge challenge for Batman. Put all four Turtles together as a team and Batman's got some real trouble on his hands. However, as has been mentioned already, Batman is a master strategist, so if he had a chance to think things through and plan, he could give the Turtles real trouble too. There was that moment in the Dark Knight Returns where he basically beat (or at least equaled) Superman. I love his line (could have been from The Dark Knight Strikes Again): "Your problem is you've always been so powerful that you've never had to learn strategy." And that's where Batman truly excels. All that being said, while the Turtles are more inclined to kill than Batman, they also prefer lives of peace and would never just go and spill innocent blood, especially from one as noble as Batman. And he'd feel the same way about them. So again, I'm not sure on this one. What I'd love to see though is Batman approaching a horde of his rogue's gallery (Joker, Two-Face, Scarecrow, etc.) from the shadows; they all smile, mocking him that he's dead meat; then he just says, "There's something you haven't thought about." The Joker says, "Like what?" Batman: "Back-up." Then the four Turtles emerge from the darkness behind him. Then the butt-kicking really begins! One can dream, anyway. __________________ Elders of the RuneStone http://RuneStoneComic.com/ Movie Trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72EPo9rq8vY

08-16-2008, 01:59 PM	#20
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	A one-shot TMNT and Batman team-up could be cool. Not that Batman needs backup really. He's a one man army in and of himself. On a note for this thread: The TMNT are on their way to mastering Ninjutsu. But Batman has already mastered not only Ninjutsu, but a very wide range of martial arts. He traveled the globe for years learning everything he could from the greatest forms.