any dragonball fans?

[Samhain]

if so, post you collections. ill post mine soon.

[Cure]

Collections of what, exactly? The manga? DVD's?

[gobo]

I got DBZ seasons 1-7 and the four SteelBook Double Features currently available. I'm not interested in the manga and have no use for toys. I'll pick up both seasons of GT when I can get them both simultaneously. The current format of classic anime DVD releases is so much more affordable than when the Z series was spread over 200 individual DVDs at no less than $16 a piece.

[Mecha Cow]

Goku is my hero and man crush

No collection here, but I guess you could say I'm a DragonBall fan. I grew up watching DBZ and I have a soft spot for it despite how undeniably stupid it gets sometimes. DBGT is pure crap though. Lately I've been watching DB, which I'm enjoying a lot (moreso than Z). As far as merchandise goes, the only thing is I own is DragonBall Origins for DS, which is a pretty neat game.

I'm also looking forward to the movie, for the all wrong reasons.

[Ra]

Heh, similar thing for me. I grew up watching Dragon Ball Z, but once I watched the original series of Dragon Ball, I loved it so much more than the series I grew up on. Goofy and fun with great action fights. I must buy the DVDs one day...

And GT should burn.

[gobo]

I wasn't aware GT was so disliked. I can't say I was ever particularly fond of it, but... Super 17 anyone? That's the only part of GT that I ever got excited about though I haven't actually seen much of the rest.

GT is like Dragonball fanfiction made into a tv series. One of the worst anime I've ever seen. Would actually fit better with this decade than its time in the 90s since most anime these days is trash anyway.

I'd say I'm a pretty big Dragonball/DBZ fan. I first got into Dragonball in the mid 90s, and then into DBZ at the turn of the century.
At the time it was my top series since the original TMNT series was over, and I needed something with a colorful cast of characters and martial arts. Also why I got into Ranma 1/2.

What mainly still holds me to the series these days are the games Dragonball Z Tenkaichi 2 & 3. Best fighter games I've ever played. Surprisingly technical and addictive. Mega replay value.

[Ninjinister]

Anybody ever play Super DragonBall Z?

Damn you and your links, Ninjizzler!

I still haven't forgotten the one you "accidently" sent me which lead me to a donkey show.



And no, I never played that one, though I thought it was neat that they added in Chi Chi.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by gobo

I got DBZ seasons 1-7 and the four SteelBook Double Features currently available. I'm not interested in the manga and have no use for toys.

Ditto for me.

I guess you can say I'm somewhat of a fan but after rewatching the seasons 1-7 again I don't like the show nearly as much as I use to. I thoroughly enjoyed the second half of the Sayain Saga, the Namek saga, and the Great Saiyaman Saga and I thought the Trunks and Android Saga’s were decent. However, I was extremely disappointed with everything else. After the Namek saga the series jut went downhill for me. The pacing is agonizingly slow and the alien characters became way too powerful. I couldn’t get into the battles anymore because there was less actual strategy and martial arts involved. Instead there was too much speed fighting and energy attacks. The Fireza saga was especially painful to sit through. The movies are a bit better because they are shorter and the battles are better choreographed but the only ones I like are 5 and 13. I’ll still get the remaining seasons and the movies but I’m not looking forward to it.

I would buy the Dragonball season sets (that’s if their going to be released) because I remember liking the series a lot more than DBZ when I first saw it on Cartoonnetwork. And I wont be getting the GT sets because I hate GT.

[Ninjinister]

Ha ha, and I'd do that again if you weren't expecting it

It's actually my favourite of the PS2 DBZ games, and I own all of them other than Infinite World.

No question that all of Dragonball was fun.
As for Dragonball Z, I have to say that only the first half of the whole series was good. DBZ after the Frieza saga was for the most part pretty much crap. What really killed it for me was that everyone on show and their grandma was going super-saiyan. Way to turn an epic transformation into a cheap parlor trick, Akira Toriyama..
Goku is suppose to be the only super-saiyan. That's it.

I'll say this... The only good that came out of continuing DBZ after the Frieza saga was the introduction of Hercule Satan, Videl, Great Saiyaman, and... yeah. That's pretty much it.

And just to toss this in... The introduction of Goten and kid Trunks (the most annoying characters ever) helped turn the Buu saga into an epic fail.

Oh, and the Androids were the most boring villians in the whole series. Plain-ass dull civilians with powers in the world of DBZ?... Could Akira be any less imaginative?

[Ninjinister]

One thing for some of later DBZ you have to commend is, in spite of Toriyama's forgetfulness (he's actually forgotten who Kamesen'nin was at one point in an interview), he was still able to connect previous events with the present, like Gero being part of the Red Ribbon Army.

Another later plot point I liked was Kurilin hooking up with 18. Poor lil' guy died the most out of the series, was about as powerful as intestinal discomfort in comparison to the Saiyans, and he ended up scoring an attractive (albeit cyborg) wife. And had a kid with her.

My least favourite part of the Boo Saga wasn't the introduction of Chibi Trunks and Goten, or even the overuse of Super Saiyans, it was the fact that one of my favourite characters from the series' early days, Piccolo, who through whatever means had even frequently surpassed the Saiyans time and time again (like merging with God), became much less noteworthy of a character.

Just about every character who wasn't a super-sayian got pushed into the background. This was perhaps the biggest problem in the series.
Disregarding the fact that people were fans of the non-saiyan characters, Akira was adding less of those characters in the story.

In the world of Dragonball Z, there is absolutely no excuse to castaway more than half of the main characters because they can't go super-saiyan. There are so many other ways that Akira could have invented in his series for such characters to progress.

I really don't think of Akira as much of a writer when I consider things like that in his series.

I'm more of a fan of the non-saiyans infact. Some of the saiyans where fine. I like Goku for his charm. And I like Bardok for his zealous, anti-hero, "save the future" kind of attitude.
But Vegeta I found to be an abrasive dick that was more trouble than he was worth. He was fantastic as a villian. But a total douchebag as a "hero".

I prefer the Dragonball team of Goku, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, and Chaozu (plus Piccolo, which joined the team in DBZ).
I felt that Chaozu had alot of potential with his ESP and telekenises powers. If he was allowed to be developed, Chaozu could have been a psionic god... beating the **** out of people without actually physicly being in the fight. Totally untouchable.
Way to let that oppertunity slip by, Akira..

[XERO]

Originally Posted by Ryona

What really killed it for me was that everyone on show and their grandma was going super-saiyan.

Not only that, everyone kept friggin' dying and coming back to life.

Hell, the obvious title should be Dragon Ball Resurrection.

But besides that, I love it with a passion. Sad that I got to watch DBZ BEFORE the original Dragon Ball. I guess it's the American way.

How would you feel if you saw The Empire Strikes Back before A New Hope?

And if we're picking character favorites, besides Son Goku himself, I'd have to go with Future Trunks.

[Sage Ninja]

I like Dragon Ball, but some of the dragging story arcs and sluggish pacing killed me. In dragon ball the chracters where the best thing and most of the stories where good and entertaining, but others creased me with how long somethings took.

DBZ was pretty good but I got bored when the characters and villans became too freakin' powerful. I mean damn, I hated how there was so much time dragged out into powering up only for it to be worth jack sh*t because another villan a thousand times more powerful would come along and they would have to spend 20 episodes on them reaching another power level to defeat them. It became surreal even in the context the show was grounded in.

I did like Vegeta becoming a hero though, he was cool in an anti-hero sort of way, with his inferiority complex toward Goku. Though his dick-headedness became tiresome after awhile. I thought it was an interesting twist that he hooked up with Bulma effectively stealing her away from Yamcha. I always though that Bulma was a hoe!

What I didn't like was cool characters becoming dorkified as the series went on. Gohan was the coolest kid around when he was between the ages of 5-11, but as soon as he hit his teen and adult years, suddenly he was a awkawrd nerd. Ugh! Adult Trunks was cool, but man oh man did he take on alot of his father's douche bag tendacies. Chibi Trunks sucks, and Goten's character tried to hard to replace the cute badassness of child Gohan. They both sucked...don't even get me started on Pan.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Ryona

Just about every character who wasn't a super-sayian got pushed into the background. This was perhaps the biggest problem in the series.
Disregarding the fact that people were fans of the non-saiyan characters, Akira was adding less of those characters in the story.

In the world of Dragonball Z, there is absolutely no excuse to castaway more than half of the main characters because they can't go super-saiyan. There are so many other ways that Akira could have invented in his series for such characters to progress.

Which is why I liked the 2008 Shonen Jump anniversary special. Even though about half of it was Goten & Trunks stuff, it showcased the other characters for a short time.

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I thought it was an interesting twist that he hooked up with Bulma effectively stealing her away from Yamcha. I always though that Bulma was a hoe!

If you know Bulma well enough, there's no doubt she was seeing both Yamcha and Vegeta at the same time behind their backs. She ultimately stuck with Vegeta because he didn't know how to use a condom and got stuck with a kid.




Maury: "You ARE the baby's father."

[Sage Ninja]

hmm, I've never read the manga or seen the orginal DBZ in japanese before. Is she more promiscuious than what is let on in the censored CTN version of show?

Yeah, she wanted to get in the pants of every good-looking guy she saw. Aside from Yamcha and Vegeta, there was General Blue, Zarbon, Goku at some point, and a couple more.