Coraline

Fledermaus · 02-08-2009, 08:34 PM

Why does this not have a thread??

Saw this yesterday with some friends. Loved it. Would love to rip it to bits and pieces with discussion. Anyone else see it?

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 02-09-2009, 01:15 AM

Saw it today actually.
I love Henry Selick and the last thing I had seen from him was a short called Moon Girl back in 05.

I think the two parts that really got me visually were
The Garden scene with other father. That had me Ooing and awing in my mind.
The scene with the old former performer ladies in the "other world" I did not expect to see them dressed like The Venus and a Mermaid. I also didn't expect to see them as their younger-selves even though I really wanted to.

I loved the Dancing mice and the Scotty dog bats. I loved the neighbors and how eccentric and creative their individual little worlds were. The ladies with their taffy and their shelf of past Scotty dogs. Mr. B and his circus, and porch acrobatics.

I liked Wybee and the cat but I did start to get a Cheshire cat vibe from the character in "the other world".

I also felt like he did a really good job making me feel annoyed with the parents like Coraline did in the beginning and then we begin to appreciate them along with her by the end.

The villian was scary as all hell with her metal hands and bony form.
I have to say I didn't think the being at the beginning creating the doll would end up being the villian.
(I really like Coraline apologizing to the cat for throwing him LOL)

That's really all that is on my mind for now. I just saw it a few hours ago so I may have more to add later

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-09-2009, 01:36 AM

I really have got to go and see it this week.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 02-09-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

I really have got to go and see it this week.

Definitely, I wasn't sure about it but I am really glad I went.
If you have the opportunity see it in 3D!

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-09-2009, 05:29 AM

There's one theatre that does 3D movies in my area. What kind of glasses do they give you for this movie? Are they the good ones with the frame, or that red/blue crosseye paper stuff that came with Rad Racer back in the day?

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 02-09-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

There's one theatre that does 3D movies in my area. What kind of glasses do they give you for this movie? Are they the good ones with the frame, or that red/blue crosseye paper stuff that came with Rad Racer back in the day?

Actually they were very good quality. They looked like thickly framed square sunglasses. They "glasses" part was black so no silly red/blue crosseye stuff.
They were plastic not cardboard which I appreciate. They came individually wrapped so you know no one used them before. Lastly there was also a recycle bin when you left the theater for them.

*Drtooth* · 02-09-2009, 08:39 AM

Spoiler:

*Spitfire* · 02-09-2009, 04:43 PM

I thought it was okay. Honestly it reminded me a lot of the Invader Zim Halloween special. That's not an original concept though anyways. As a kids movie it wasn't very kid friendly. I can't fathom the kid who would enjoy watching that. I look at it as a fantasy story for adults or wanna be goth kids who have Tim Burton shrines in their closets.

The 3-D was neat but it wasn't apparent most of the time. There's more they could have done with it. The credits actually had the most 3-D.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 02-09-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I thought it was okay. Honestly it reminded me a lot of the Invader Zim Halloween special. That's not an original concept though anyways. As a kids movie it wasn't very kid friendly. I can't fathom the kid who would enjoy watching that. I look at it as a fantasy story for adults or wanna be goth kids who have Tim Burton shrines in their closets.

The 3-D was neat but it wasn't apparent most of the time. There's more they could have done with it. The credits actually had the most 3-D.

I am sure Hot Topic is saying Ka-Ching!

The batdogs! I am starting to look forward to the credits almost as much as the movies themselves

They do go all out
You looked hilarious in those 3D glasses btw...we should have kept them Lol

*Brodie* · 02-09-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I thought it was okay. Honestly it reminded me a lot of the Invader Zim Halloween special. That's not an original concept though anyways. As a kids movie it wasn't very kid friendly. I can't fathom the kid who would enjoy watching that. I look at it as a fantasy story for adults or wanna be goth kids who have Tim Burton shrines in their closets.

You mean your shrine?

Anyway, wasn't it barely considered a children's book? I mean, it was Gaiman.

*Spitfire* · 02-09-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

You mean your shrine?

If you think I even qualify as a fan of Tim Burton you've never seen what I'm talking about. We had one standing in front of us in line before the movie. Poor kid had it bad.

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

You looked hilarious in those 3D glasses btw...we should have kept them Lol

I felt more inclined to save the environment then look like an idiot.

*Hannah* · 02-09-2009, 10:48 PM

Wasn't this book compared to Alice in Wonderland? I remember reading it and being really bothered that it was nowhere near as good. Not that I really should have expected it to be, but whatever, I was like 12.
ANYWAY I love stop motion animation.. so I can't imagine why I don't have any desire to see this. OH WELL

Fledermaus · 02-09-2009, 11:48 PM

Where are the other Technodrome animators??? I found it refreshing that Coraline had a strong story (as expected from Gaiman) and characters who had motivations and changes of heart, unlike the stop-motion films directed by Tim Burton. I was really impressed by it. This movie, I think, also shows promise for the future of non-CG animated feature films. There is a place for non-CG animation on the big screen, and I'm glad this film was able to prove that without resorting to imitating the past (read up on Disney's The Princess and the Frog...

).

*Spitfire* · 02-10-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fledermaus

and I'm glad this film was able to prove that without resorting to imitating the past (read up on Disney's The Princess and the Frog...

).

Actually stop motion animation is older then 2D so if you wanna get technical this is reaching further back into the past then cel animation.

*Drtooth* · 02-10-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fledermaus

Where are the other Technodrome animators??? I found it refreshing that Coraline had a strong story (as expected from Gaiman) and characters who had motivations and changes of heart, unlike the stop-motion films directed by Tim Burton. I was really impressed by it. This movie, I think, also shows promise for the future of non-CG animated feature films. There is a place for non-CG animation on the big screen, and I'm glad this film was able to prove that without resorting to imitating the past (read up on Disney's The Princess and the Frog...

).

This, uh... WAS CGI... they just were able to make it look like it was stop motion. I find it disturbing and innovative at the same time. But it really looked polished and beautiful... One thing I hate when it comes to CGI animation is when they make the humans look so realistic. It just doesn't do it for me.

That said, it wasn't half as goth as I thought it would be. Had Burton really been involved, it would have been a lot more macabre, and have some sort of obsession with death. I really didn't see that here. Sure, there were Bat-terriers, Jack-o-lanterns, and one dead turtle skeleton... but it managed to be more twisted than macabre. And Really, no Danny Elfman score. I felt that really refreshing.

Fledermaus · 02-10-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

This, uh... WAS CGI... they just were able to make it look like it was stop motion.

Um... no, it was stop-motion. The animationhttp://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=p...rticle_no=3902 I believe some fog and effects

Spoiler:

may well have been CG, but the majority of the film was shot with miniatures and puppets.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Actually stop motion animation is older then 2D so if you wanna get technical this is reaching further back into the past then cel animation.

Allow me to clarify -- I was referring to past, overdone stories and subject matter, not the animation medium. Many people I talk to (CG advocates) blindly assume that when I talk about revitalizing non-CG animation (hand-drawn and stop-motion), they assume I want to resurrect the Disney Princesses in all their saccharine glory. Or they say, "stop motion?" It's too labor-intensive and expensive. Well yes it is. But that didn't stop a bunch of people from animating Coraline in stop-motion -- in 3D stop motion even.

When you animate a stop-motion movie in 3D, due to the scale, one must reposition the puppets for each camera (left eye and right eye). That makes it more labor-intensive.

*DrSpengler* · 02-10-2009, 12:54 PM

Here's my review.

I loved it. Too bad my theater didn't support 3D, though.

*Drtooth* · 02-10-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fledermaus

Um... no, it was stop-motion. The animationhttp://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=p...rticle_no=3902 I believe some fog and effects

Spoiler:

may well have been CG, but the majority of the film was shot with miniatures and puppets.

Musta been thinking about Nine (or whatever that film is)... when this film was announced, another film by Henry Selick was announced to be done in CGI to look like stop motion...

*Spitfire* · 02-10-2009, 09:33 PM

That's very possible we saw a trailer for that when we saw this.

Leonardo Mystic · 04-19-2009, 12:09 AM

I apologize for digging up an old thread, but I had just gotten to see this movie a few days ago (non 3-D version). It finally came to the $1 theater in my town.

I loved it. I didn't know if I would or not, but I was curious to see it anyway. I'm glad I did. It was a wonderful experience. It's one of those movies where you cannot blink or you'll miss something.

The characters were believeable and the story was enrapturing. It was a movie that made you think and feel. The picture was gorgeous and rich, and the soundtrack haunting, lively, and melancholy. I even bought the whole soundtrack album on iTunes. ^^'

I'm considering finding the book and reading it too. I know there are some differences between the two.

02-08-2009, 08:34 PM	#1
Fledermaus Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,115	Coraline Why does this not have a thread?? Saw this yesterday with some friends. Loved it. Would love to rip it to bits and pieces with discussion. Anyone else see it? __________________ We're calling it a freeway. Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena. Smooth, safe, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past. I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night! Soon there will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food! Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God... It'll be beautiful.

02-09-2009, 01:36 AM	#3
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I really have got to go and see it this week. __________________

02-09-2009, 05:29 AM	#5
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	There's one theatre that does 3D movies in my area. What kind of glasses do they give you for this movie? Are they the good ones with the frame, or that red/blue crosseye paper stuff that came with Rad Racer back in the day? __________________

02-09-2009, 08:39 AM	#7
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Spoiler: Anyone else thing the other mother's second form looked exactly like her voice actress, Teri Hatcher? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

02-09-2009, 04:43 PM	#8
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I thought it was okay. Honestly it reminded me a lot of the Invader Zim Halloween special. That's not an original concept though anyways. As a kids movie it wasn't very kid friendly. I can't fathom the kid who would enjoy watching that. I look at it as a fantasy story for adults or wanna be goth kids who have Tim Burton shrines in their closets. The 3-D was neat but it wasn't apparent most of the time. There's more they could have done with it. The credits actually had the most 3-D. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-09-2009, 01:15 AM	#2
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	Saw it today actually. I love Henry Selick and the last thing I had seen from him was a short called Moon Girl back in 05. I think the two parts that really got me visually were The Garden scene with other father. That had me Ooing and awing in my mind. The scene with the old former performer ladies in the "other world" I did not expect to see them dressed like The Venus and a Mermaid. I also didn't expect to see them as their younger-selves even though I really wanted to. I loved the Dancing mice and the Scotty dog bats. I loved the neighbors and how eccentric and creative their individual little worlds were. The ladies with their taffy and their shelf of past Scotty dogs. Mr. B and his circus, and porch acrobatics. I liked Wybee and the cat but I did start to get a Cheshire cat vibe from the character in "the other world". I also felt like he did a really good job making me feel annoyed with the parents like Coraline did in the beginning and then we begin to appreciate them along with her by the end. The villian was scary as all hell with her metal hands and bony form. I have to say I didn't think the being at the beginning creating the doll would end up being the villian. (I really like Coraline apologizing to the cat for throwing him LOL) That's really all that is on my mind for now. I just saw it a few hours ago so I may have more to add later

02-09-2009, 10:48 PM	#12
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Wasn't this book compared to Alice in Wonderland? I remember reading it and being really bothered that it was nowhere near as good. Not that I really should have expected it to be, but whatever, I was like 12. ANYWAY I love stop motion animation.. so I can't imagine why I don't have any desire to see this. OH WELL __________________

02-09-2009, 11:48 PM	#13
Fledermaus Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,115	Where are the other Technodrome animators??? I found it refreshing that Coraline had a strong story (as expected from Gaiman) and characters who had motivations and changes of heart, unlike the stop-motion films directed by Tim Burton. I was really impressed by it. This movie, I think, also shows promise for the future of non-CG animated feature films. There is a place for non-CG animation on the big screen, and I'm glad this film was able to prove that without resorting to imitating the past (read up on Disney's The Princess and the Frog... ). __________________ We're calling it a freeway. Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena. Smooth, safe, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past. I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night! Soon there will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food! Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God... It'll be beautiful.

02-10-2009, 12:54 PM	#17
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Here's my review. I loved it. Too bad my theater didn't support 3D, though.

02-10-2009, 09:33 PM	#19
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	That's very possible we saw a trailer for that when we saw this. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-19-2009, 12:09 AM	#20
Leonardo Mystic Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 904	I apologize for digging up an old thread, but I had just gotten to see this movie a few days ago (non 3-D version). It finally came to the $1 theater in my town. I loved it. I didn't know if I would or not, but I was curious to see it anyway. I'm glad I did. It was a wonderful experience. It's one of those movies where you cannot blink or you'll miss something. The characters were believeable and the story was enrapturing. It was a movie that made you think and feel. The picture was gorgeous and rich, and the soundtrack haunting, lively, and melancholy. I even bought the whole soundtrack album on iTunes. ^^' I'm considering finding the book and reading it too. I know there are some differences between the two. __________________