Abandoning the Turtles

*Vegita-San* · 04-10-2009, 11:30 AM

We all know 4Kids seems to think Chaotic has more staying power than the turtles, not to mention the fact that it's a brand they actually own. Well, what about Playmates?

It's well known that Turtles was their biggest brand, yet they basically ignored it after the movie. Seems they are working on something of their own, only I don't know about their ownership of the property.

Check out 4Kids.com and try to watch 'Worlds Collide, Part 1'. If it's like my setup, you should see a 2 minute long add for a new toy property supported by an animated 3D show...

Guess we know why they stopped focusing on turtles.

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2009, 03:14 PM

The blame all goes to Playmates for not supporting the show by funding 1/3rd of it. They think their toys can sell without animation.

Likewise 4kids was hit hard by the economy and they can't afford to keep spending money on animation themselves without support from Mirage and Playmates.

TMNT probably won't get another cartoon until another 5-6 years from now when they try to re-launch the property yet again. God knows how old we'll all be by then.

Archon_Turtle · 04-10-2009, 03:56 PM

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TMNT probably won't get another cartoon until another 5-6 years from now when they try to re-launch the property yet again. God knows how old we'll all be by then.

5...or 6...years...older?

Doc_ock_4mugen · 04-10-2009, 06:13 PM

But to be honest the 2k3 series was running on its last legs for a while (IMnsHO)... Though FF had a couple of good eps. I felt that the show was nearing its end right there...
BTTS was not as good as FF... and I'm not a FF fan (I disliked the Tron/Matrix thing that was most of BTTS...)

*Cipher* · 04-10-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

5...or 6...years...older?

This was priceless.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 04-10-2009, 08:15 PM

Does Playmates even have anything else going for it?

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2009, 09:25 PM

Playmates is making toys based on the new Star Trek movie, so that will sustain them for a while.

TMNT is being put to sleep.

Thanks a lot, 4kids, Playmates, and Gary Richardson. Not a damn one of them is trying to help the property. Looks like TMNT will be going back to a comic-only franchise for awhile, and even that may go into hibernation for awhile.

**GK Punk** · 04-10-2009, 09:39 PM

Do you ever get sick of making the same whining posts day after day?

*CyberCubed* · 04-10-2009, 09:47 PM

Well I didn't make the thread itself. It's just a shame that everytime I get back into TMNT again, its always in the "dying" phase.

I know every franchise goes through this cycle, but 2003 was only 6 years ago.

*Cure* · 04-10-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

5...or 6...years...older?

Hahahaha, common sense prevails once again.

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Do you ever get sick of making the same whining posts day after day?

For realz, man. Please give it up.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-10-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Thanks a lot, 4kids, Playmates, and Gary Richardson. Not a damn one of them is trying to help the property. Looks like TMNT will be going back to a comic-only franchise for awhile

That would be the best thing that could possibly happen to the property. At least until the public psyche has a chance to wash its collective palate of the toddler-pandering stuff.

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and even that may go into hibernation for awhile.

But yes, there's that. Even the comics are going away, it sounds like.

*Spitfire* · 04-10-2009, 11:40 PM

Power Rangers snuffed it out before and this time it was some 3-D show or some crap about a card game. I mean what's new? I'm not sad to see it go and like Andrew said it's the best thing that could happen to it right now.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 04-12-2009, 08:25 AM

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Do you ever get sick of making the same whining posts day after day?

That's what half the posts on here are anymore.

I guess things could be a lot better, but they could probably also be a lot worse. Plus dwelling on the negative aspects isn't going to do anything. That's my take on it.

**GK Punk** · 04-12-2009, 11:14 AM

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Plus dwelling on the negative aspects isn't going to do anything. That's my take on it.

Someone give this guy an award.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 04-12-2009, 05:34 PM

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Someone give this guy an award.

For being Captain Obvious? No thank you.

I'm disappointed that the attention the Turtles have been getting is fading again, but I figure the fans might as well enjoy what's out there. Too bad the Turtles just can't seem to get cemented the same way the Marvel and DC characters have been as far as popularity goes.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 04-12-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The blame all goes to Playmates for not supporting the show by funding 1/3rd of it. They think their toys can sell without animation.

Likewise 4kids was hit hard by the economy and they can't afford to keep spending money on animation themselves without support from Mirage and Playmates.

TMNT probably won't get another cartoon until another 5-6 years from now when they try to re-launch the property yet again. God knows how old we'll all be by then.

If it ever will re-appear. In the 1990's, popular culture had 1970's nostalgia (ABBA revival/A Teens, disco revival), in the 2000's we had 1980's nostalgia (TMNT, Transformers, He-Man). Around 2010, 1990's a retro movement nostalgia will probably begin (Spice Girls, Britney Spears, Tamagotchi, Pokemon/Digimon, and Power Rangers which is still on air). TMNT was popular in the early 1990's, but counted as 1980's.

Blade Raider · 04-12-2009, 06:25 PM

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If it ever will re-appear. In the 1990's, popular culture had 1970's nostalgia (ABBA revival/A Teens, disco revival), in the 2000's we had 1980's nostalgia (TMNT, Transformers, He-Man). Around 2010, 1990's a retro movement nostalgia will probably begin (Spice Girls, Britney Spears, Tamagotchi, Pokemon/Digimon, and Power Rangers which is still on air). TMNT was popular in the early 1990's, but counted as 1980's.

Pokemon and Power Rangers are all still around and doing...okay. Digimon and Tamagotchi comes and goes, but both never vanished for long. These are like Transformers and have never really stopped, but will probably join the nostalgia fest when it comes.

I think 90's nostalgia has already started a bit with Biker Mice's new series and Reboot getting movies in the future (as well as a comic I can't read...damn website <_<), but I think it will really start when shows like Animaniacs, Tiny Toon, Gargoyles, Swat Kats, Exo-Squad, Pirates of Dark Water, etc. get remade (or new additions).

I hope next time a TMNT cartoon comes around, they do something that takes the best of all the different TMNT universes. If they do the comic stoies again, it'll be quite boring.

PS the Spice Girls and Britney Spears can just burn in hell for all I care.

*Cipher* · 04-12-2009, 08:00 PM

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Pokemon and Power Rangers are all still around and doing...okay.

Haven't watched the Pokemon show in years (although I presume it's doing fairly well), but the Pokemon video-games continue to make top-sellers lists and get glowing reviews. Platinum version launched last month to huge numbers. Many Gamestops opened early just to handle the pre-orders.

Pokemon really doesn't deserve to be labeled a '90s fad. It's fairly well established as a classic and evergreen video game series.

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in the 2000's we had 1980's nostalgia (TMNT, Transformers, He-Man)

Likewise, Transformers has never really gone away. It's just that sometimes it was limited to toylines, or comics, or Japan, or was called Beast Wars/Beast Machines. It has a ridiculous amount of staying power and a huge cult following. Again, it's kind of moved out of just being an '80s thing.

Yes, these are properties I enjoy besides Turtles.

*CyberCubed* · 04-12-2009, 08:02 PM

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I'm not sure how Pokemon the show is doing (although I presume fairly well),

The Pokemon anime is about to hit its 600th total episode in Japan, and the 12th movie is coming out this summer.

It's still doing fairly well for itself, despite the fact that the fad is long over.

**Krang** · 04-12-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

That's what half the posts on here are anymore.

I seem to recall someone around here saying something along the lines of, "dwelling on the negative aspects isn't going to do anything." Who was that again?

Seriously, though, let's please not exaggerate and complain about the number of negative posts around here, since two wrongs don't make a right. If you look around, you'll see that there are actually far more positive posts than you're giving the forums credit for. Why not focus on reading and replying to those instead? Or, better yet, come up with a new, interesting topic for people to discuss?

04-10-2009, 11:30 AM	#1
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,057	Abandoning the Turtles We all know 4Kids seems to think Chaotic has more staying power than the turtles, not to mention the fact that it's a brand they actually own. Well, what about Playmates? It's well known that Turtles was their biggest brand, yet they basically ignored it after the movie. Seems they are working on something of their own, only I don't know about their ownership of the property. Check out 4Kids.com and try to watch 'Worlds Collide, Part 1'. If it's like my setup, you should see a 2 minute long add for a new toy property supported by an animated 3D show... Guess we know why they stopped focusing on turtles. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?

04-10-2009, 06:13 PM	#4
Doc_ock_4mugen Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 389	But to be honest the 2k3 series was running on its last legs for a while (IMnsHO)... Though FF had a couple of good eps. I felt that the show was nearing its end right there... BTTS was not as good as FF... and I'm not a FF fan (I disliked the Tron/Matrix thing that was most of BTTS...) __________________ Mikey might be part of Nick now, but he still loves Miley... I mean Hannah... Stupid Secret Identity!!

04-10-2009, 11:40 PM	#12
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Power Rangers snuffed it out before and this time it was some 3-D show or some crap about a card game. I mean what's new? I'm not sad to see it go and like Andrew said it's the best thing that could happen to it right now. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-10-2009, 03:14 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,727	The blame all goes to Playmates for not supporting the show by funding 1/3rd of it. They think their toys can sell without animation. Likewise 4kids was hit hard by the economy and they can't afford to keep spending money on animation themselves without support from Mirage and Playmates. TMNT probably won't get another cartoon until another 5-6 years from now when they try to re-launch the property yet again. God knows how old we'll all be by then.

04-10-2009, 08:15 PM	#6
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	Does Playmates even have anything else going for it?

04-10-2009, 09:25 PM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,727	Playmates is making toys based on the new Star Trek movie, so that will sustain them for a while. TMNT is being put to sleep. Thanks a lot, 4kids, Playmates, and Gary Richardson. Not a damn one of them is trying to help the property. Looks like TMNT will be going back to a comic-only franchise for awhile, and even that may go into hibernation for awhile.

04-10-2009, 09:39 PM	#8
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Do you ever get sick of making the same whining posts day after day?

04-10-2009, 09:47 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,727	Well I didn't make the thread itself. It's just a shame that everytime I get back into TMNT again, its always in the "dying" phase. I know every franchise goes through this cycle, but 2003 was only 6 years ago.