Post your thoughts on ComiCon & "Turtles Forever"!

*Andrew NDB* · 07-27-2009, 02:03 AM

I had an effing blast! The Friday night shindig was the greatest time I never thought I'd have/it would be... truly a great time.

Meeting Dan was just awesome... the man I've been talking to over the internets for over a decade, finally we're in the same room. Dooney, Lavigne, Lawson, even Gary... just phenomenal. Tristan knows how to hang too, though by my own witness this tall-ass Aussie is a bit of a nurse when it comes to the liquor! (I kid, I kid)

"Turtles Forever"... I completely didn't expect to like it. Not because I have an axe to grind against the TMNT in the animated media, but just because a crossover between the cartoon versions of the TMNT... while interesting on paper, would just be combining two things... one of which I loved as a child and outgrew, another I like but do not love or hold anywhere near the same alter as the Mirage comics.

It was hinted to me that there might be the inclusion of the Mirage TMNT at some point in the film. It was rather stressed to me. At this point... OK, I was all aboard, or at least my curiosity was extremely piqued.

Long story short, fantastic night, can't express how cool it was to hang with the Mirage crew that night, awesome meeting and hanging with tokka (my brutha!!! avoid the bicycle rides, lesson learned for both of us), Michele, Rose, Amanda, G-Dub, Brina, Dawn, Cynlee, Buslady, Archon, and Spitfire (a treat... didn't know his ass was gonna show up!).

Movie was supremely entertaining. I don't know that I could take someone that had never watched or read Turtles and say, "Hey, watch this movie!" and it would make sense to them/they would enjoy it, but it's -- as others have said -- a true love letter to Turtle fans. All Turtle fans, the fandom as a whole... divisive and diverse as it may be. I'm OK with that... I'm very OK with that. The only quibbles: 1) I'd be the first one to point out how the original cartoon was... to put it politely... not that cerebral? That said... I would agree that maybe this movie made the original cartoon TMNT a little bit more on this level (empty headed) than it deserved. 2) The Mirage TMNT... not enough!

But I'll take what I can get. That's all.

Since this would be this forum/website's namesake I feel compelled to add... this movie made the Technodrome a truly fearsome, terrifying thing!

Just a great presentation by all parties involved... I wasn't expecting how cool this would be and I'm damned glad I was able to be a part of it. Much thanks to Tokka.

Archon_Turtle · 07-27-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Michele, Amanda, G-Dub, Brina, Dawn, Cynlee, Buslady, and Spitfire

*scans for his name*

Jerk

*Andrew NDB* · 07-27-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

*scans for his name*

Jerk

Um.. (fumbles with some buttons)... it's there. Check again!

Archon_Turtle · 07-27-2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Um.. (fumbles with some buttons)... it's there. Check again!

Really though man. Great to finally meet you

X · 07-27-2009, 09:06 AM

Hearing it is only 70 minutes long is kind of a bummer... Makes me think the movie feels rushed.

Was hoping for a 1 1/2 hour film or something.

Archon_Turtle · 07-27-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by X

Makes me think the movie feels rushed.

You'd be wrong. At least in my opinion. I was actually talking to Andrew about this, that I feel the movie felt like it ran a little long and could have been shorn up in a few key places.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-27-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by X

Hearing it is only 70 minutes long is kind of a bummer... Makes me think the movie feels rushed.

If that's all it was, it was a long 70 minutes... it seemed like a long time, but maybe it wasn't.

Samurai Usagi · 07-27-2009, 10:57 AM

I don't like long movies, LOTR is an exception, but cartoons ought not to be too long. Keeping it fast paced ought to make it flow more and not get stuck at points. TMNT was like 87 mins, if this 70, then it's fine, Can't wait to get it on DVD.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-27-2009, 10:59 AM

How much actual screentime do the mirage turtles get?

*plastroncafe* · 07-27-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

*scans for his name*

Jerk

I know, right?
I mean...what the hell man?
*snickers*

*plastroncafe* · 07-27-2009, 12:57 PM

All snarky jokes aside, I don't yet have the words to fully express just how amazing SDCC was.

Were there things I'd have done differently? Oh hell yes. I think I'd have spent more time with people, as opposed to trying to make panel after panel. Heck...I would have read the little guide thing, and maybe studied the map a bit more closely.

But aside from those? Just a fantastic con experience. I'm seriously considering registering for next year,...once the financial dust settles, of course.

As for "Turtles Forever"...damn it, September can't come fast enough!

*ToTheNines* · 07-27-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

As for "Turtles Forever"...damn it, September can't come fast enough!

September?!? You know somethin I don't, brotha?

*gobo* · 07-27-2009, 03:20 PM

SDCC: Prolly not doin' that again. Just when I think my fear of crowds is manageable... >_<

Turtles Forever: Even missing the majority of the first act (or maybe more), it was still totally worth the trip.

*sdp* · 07-27-2009, 03:32 PM

The ~70 minute length is mostly because anything more costs a lot more even if. I don't remember the details but it was explained on Toon Zone as to why the Marvel/DC DTVs are that length and not longer.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-27-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

Really though man. Great to finally meet you

You as well, man.

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

How much actual screentime do the mirage turtles get?

In my guesstimation... blurred now by time and alcohol... the actual time they're on screen, not including just time they're in the B&W "Prime" universe? About 5 minutes. Maybe less. Probably less.

Archon_Turtle · 07-27-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

About 5 minutes. Maybe less. Probably less.

Although...it IS a fairly epic 5 minutes

IamtheKnight · 07-27-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

As for "Turtles Forever"...damn it, September can't come fast enough!

I hope it comes out in september

*Andrew NDB* · 07-27-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

Although...it IS a fairly epic 5 minutes

Agreed.

My first impulse is to hate on the over-beakness of them in this, but since not only is it drawing inspiration directly from Vol. 1 #1, but it's set during the TIME of Vol. 1 #1... I can't say anything negative about it. I much prefer the look that Eastman & Laird evolved into by around #10 or #11 or so, or #50, but hey.

You know... how the OS cartoon Turtles might be described as going "too empty-headed"? I might almost venture and say that the Mirage TMNT went "too hardcore"... at least in the voice department. Just because they actually kill and things in the Mirage material doesn't mean they all need to sound like Rorshach. But I couldn't care less in something like this... it's cool, it's fun, and it works.

*Buslady* · 07-27-2009, 10:10 PM

I'm just gonna say:

SDCC09 KICKED ASS!

Loved meeting those I havent before and seeing those I've met before.

Couldn't do the movie cos my son's underage, that pissed me off. Hey lets do a toon but kids can't come. Jerks.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-28-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

Hey lets do a toon but kids can't come. Jerks.

You know I love ya and I get that what happened with you and the little ones would be annoying, but going to have to fight you on this. Nevermind that all animated media doesn't necessarily mean a thing is inherently for little kids... the material at hand isn't geared towards anyone but those that have been around at least since the original cartoon... so we essentially still arrive at 21+ year olds.

That, and it was at a club where liquor is being served (did you see downstairs? was quite rockin'). Can't have kids. Simple law.

07-27-2009, 10:57 AM	#8
Samurai Usagi Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 47	I don't like long movies, LOTR is an exception, but cartoons ought not to be too long. Keeping it fast paced ought to make it flow more and not get stuck at points. TMNT was like 87 mins, if this 70, then it's fine, Can't wait to get it on DVD. __________________ Raphael: [about Usagi] He's not only from an alternate dimension, but also ancient Japan. So naturally, he speaks English.

07-27-2009, 03:20 PM	#13
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	SDCC: Prolly not doin' that again. Just when I think my fear of crowds is manageable... >_< Turtles Forever: Even missing the majority of the first act (or maybe more), it was still totally worth the trip. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-27-2009, 03:32 PM	#14
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,118	The ~70 minute length is mostly because anything more costs a lot more even if. I don't remember the details but it was explained on Toon Zone as to why the Marvel/DC DTVs are that length and not longer. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

07-27-2009, 10:10 PM	#19
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	I'm just gonna say: SDCC09 KICKED ASS! Loved meeting those I havent before and seeing those I've met before. Couldn't do the movie cos my son's underage, that pissed me off. Hey lets do a toon but kids can't come. Jerks. __________________

07-27-2009, 02:03 AM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,244	Post your thoughts on ComiCon & "Turtles Forever"! I had an effing blast! The Friday night shindig was the greatest time I never thought I'd have/it would be... truly a great time. Meeting Dan was just awesome... the man I've been talking to over the internets for over a decade, finally we're in the same room. Dooney, Lavigne, Lawson, even Gary... just phenomenal. Tristan knows how to hang too, though by my own witness this tall-ass Aussie is a bit of a nurse when it comes to the liquor! (I kid, I kid) "Turtles Forever"... I completely didn't expect to like it. Not because I have an axe to grind against the TMNT in the animated media, but just because a crossover between the cartoon versions of the TMNT... while interesting on paper, would just be combining two things... one of which I loved as a child and outgrew, another I like but do not love or hold anywhere near the same alter as the Mirage comics. It was hinted to me that there might be the inclusion of the Mirage TMNT at some point in the film. It was rather stressed to me. At this point... OK, I was all aboard, or at least my curiosity was extremely piqued. Long story short, fantastic night, can't express how cool it was to hang with the Mirage crew that night, awesome meeting and hanging with tokka (my brutha!!! avoid the bicycle rides, lesson learned for both of us), Michele, Rose, Amanda, G-Dub, Brina, Dawn, Cynlee, Buslady, Archon, and Spitfire (a treat... didn't know his ass was gonna show up!). Movie was supremely entertaining. I don't know that I could take someone that had never watched or read Turtles and say, "Hey, watch this movie!" and it would make sense to them/they would enjoy it, but it's -- as others have said -- a true love letter to Turtle fans. All Turtle fans, the fandom as a whole... divisive and diverse as it may be. I'm OK with that... I'm very OK with that. The only quibbles: 1) I'd be the first one to point out how the original cartoon was... to put it politely... not that cerebral? That said... I would agree that maybe this movie made the original cartoon TMNT a little bit more on this level (empty headed) than it deserved. 2) The Mirage TMNT... not enough! But I'll take what I can get. That's all. Since this would be this forum/website's namesake I feel compelled to add... this movie made the Technodrome a truly fearsome, terrifying thing! Just a great presentation by all parties involved... I wasn't expecting how cool this would be and I'm damned glad I was able to be a part of it. Much thanks to Tokka. Last edited by Andrew NDB; 07-28-2009 at 12:38 AM.

07-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#5
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	Hearing it is only 70 minutes long is kind of a bummer... Makes me think the movie feels rushed. Was hoping for a 1 1/2 hour film or something. __________________ "Wisemen say, forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for a late pizza."

07-27-2009, 10:59 AM	#9
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	How much actual screentime do the mirage turtles get?