Superheroes? or not Superheroes?

*The Defibrillator* · 03-18-2003, 05:54 PM

I started a debate about this on the NTML, and I was wonderin', how many of you consider the Ninja Turtles to be "superheroes?"

give me your thoughts 'bout this

**Karpo_007** · 03-18-2003, 05:57 PM

"We are not protectors of society. We never were." Donatello, Return to New York

~~Leo656~~ · 03-19-2003, 04:41 AM

And I answered this on the list.

I'll give a much shorter answer here...

Depends on the continuity and/or your own point of view. I mean I think the cartoon continuity definitely painted them as super-heroes. Their war with Shredder was almost equally a personal thing as well as a "protect the city" thing. Not to mention all the other bad guys they fought just cuz it's the right thing to do.

I guess someone who only followed Mirage and took it entirely word for word as gospel could argue decisively that the Turtles were not "super-heroes". But for the most part, I think it relates to an individual's point of view. All you have to do is read all the fanfic out there to see that a million different people see the TMNT a million different ways.

Shellfox · 03-19-2003, 06:43 AM

If were talking superheros like spider-man and batman- NO, They may be heros but I don't see them as "super", I can't really explain it,

**Karpo_007** · 03-19-2003, 07:07 AM

They are not really heroes in Mirgae or the new cartoon. But they are that In the old one.

Tinselcat · 03-19-2003, 08:12 AM

if being a superhero means you have some sort of superpowers, i guess it would be no. although the turtles are certainly unusual, their power comes from their minds and physical abilities. of course, batman didn't have superpowers... okay, now i'm just confused. i'll shut up now.

**Karpo_007** · 03-19-2003, 08:24 AM

Superhero is something who patrols and lives to protect the innocent.

Well something like that. And the original TMNT do not fall in to that cathegory.

lethrhd · 03-19-2003, 02:35 PM

Dem turtle boys may be pert near entertainnin' but dey far from bein superheroes...

**Karpo_007** · 03-19-2003, 04:30 PM

Yeah, if they do see some punks attacking innocent people while they are out they will probably help, But they don't patrol the streets looking for crime.

The_Realest · 03-19-2003, 09:07 PM

I consider a super-hero someone who fights for justice and against evil. IMO, this was never really a characteristic of the turtles. The main reasons they were always fighting evil-doers was because the bad guys started it. They never went out looking for trouble, the trouble always came to them.

ZigFB · 03-20-2003, 03:02 AM

Well, if you go by the new comic, they technically ARE super heroes, seeing as how Mike got admited into the super hero hospital. Sure, they are unorthodox superheroes, but they still are a brand of super hero.

**Karpo_007** · 03-20-2003, 03:05 AM

Well from what I've heard, the new volume is quite diffrent from the older ones. Im still going at City at War, then Volume 2 before I can read volume 4....

CookSux · 03-20-2003, 03:20 AM

Well I haven't read the original Mirage books, but the 4th volume books from 5+ (the ones I own) kinda suck. They aren't super anything, just civilians. You'll know when you read it.

**Karpo_007** · 03-20-2003, 03:40 AM

The TMNT aren't supposed to be super anything. They are just mutants that tend to get involved in things.

beaker · 03-20-2003, 05:27 AM

Do they wear embarassing spandex and underwear over said spandex? Do they have names that end in 'man'? Do they have secret alter egos? No.
TMNT are born from indie comics(a stark alternative to mainstream super hero comics) and as such they have remained that way.

So are TMNT super heroes? Not in the least bit. Do they kick serious ass?
Oh yeahhh!

Supermik · 03-20-2003, 05:46 AM

Sure that TMNT are superheros!
Have you some doubt about?

*The Defibrillator* · 03-20-2003, 09:06 AM

I didn't have doubt about it, I just wanted to see what everyone else here thought.

I personally think that ya don't need to have spandex, or name that ends in "man" to be a superhero, so IMO the TMNT are supheroes, meaning, they have special powers (mutation), and they fight crime (although not seeking it out).

Supermik · 03-20-2003, 09:43 AM

Excuse me but my previous post wouldn't be a rebuke for you.

I was and i'm sure that TMNT are superheros. I'm sure that all TMNT fans think that TMNT are superheros!

They have special powers and they fight the crime so they are superheros!

Heros in an half shell!

*The Defibrillator* · 03-20-2003, 09:46 AM

right on, supermik!

*high five*

Donatello · 03-20-2003, 09:57 AM

superhero can mean so many things. for the turtles it's all a mtter of circumstance, yes, they're heros but not for a career. that's what i think makes the tmnt special their careers aren't as heros but they do have some hero traits.

i really don't know

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03-18-2003, 05:54 PM	#1
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	Superheroes? or not Superheroes? I started a debate about this on the NTML, and I was wonderin', how many of you consider the Ninja Turtles to be "superheroes?" give me your thoughts 'bout this __________________ My newest signature.

03-19-2003, 08:12 AM	#6
Tinselcat Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2002 Location: uuuuh... off planet. Posts: 1,190	if being a superhero means you have some sort of superpowers, i guess it would be no. although the turtles are certainly unusual, their power comes from their minds and physical abilities. of course, batman didn't have superpowers... okay, now i'm just confused. i'll shut up now. __________________

03-19-2003, 02:35 PM	#8
lethrhd Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 358	Dem turtle boys may be pert near entertainnin' but dey far from bein superheroes... __________________ My Gods Wear Multi-Colored Bandannas

03-19-2003, 09:07 PM	#10
The_Realest Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: san deigo, cali Posts: 118	I consider a super-hero someone who fights for justice and against evil. IMO, this was never really a characteristic of the turtles. The main reasons they were always fighting evil-doers was because the bad guys started it. They never went out looking for trouble, the trouble always came to them. __________________ "Real" TMNT fan since 2/10/2003. So yes, I am a newbie.

03-18-2003, 05:57 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	"We are not protectors of society. We never were." Donatello, Return to New York

03-19-2003, 04:41 AM	#3
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And I answered this on the list. I'll give a much shorter answer here... Depends on the continuity and/or your own point of view. I mean I think the cartoon continuity definitely painted them as super-heroes. Their war with Shredder was almost equally a personal thing as well as a "protect the city" thing. Not to mention all the other bad guys they fought just cuz it's the right thing to do. I guess someone who only followed Mirage and took it entirely word for word as gospel could argue decisively that the Turtles were not "super-heroes". But for the most part, I think it relates to an individual's point of view. All you have to do is read all the fanfic out there to see that a million different people see the TMNT a million different ways.

03-19-2003, 06:43 AM	#4
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	If were talking superheros like spider-man and batman- NO, They may be heros but I don't see them as "super", I can't really explain it,

03-19-2003, 07:07 AM	#5
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	They are not really heroes in Mirgae or the new cartoon. But they are that In the old one.

03-19-2003, 08:24 AM	#7
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Superhero is something who patrols and lives to protect the innocent. Well something like that. And the original TMNT do not fall in to that cathegory.

03-19-2003, 04:30 PM	#9
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah, if they do see some punks attacking innocent people while they are out they will probably help, But they don't patrol the streets looking for crime.

03-20-2003, 03:02 AM	#11
ZigFB Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A trash strewn alley, back against the wall, facing the toughest street gang around... Posts: 212	Well, if you go by the new comic, they technically ARE super heroes, seeing as how Mike got admited into the super hero hospital. Sure, they are unorthodox superheroes, but they still are a brand of super hero. __________________ Donatello: You're a claustrophobic. Casey Jones: You wanna fist in the mouth? I never even looked at another guy before.

03-20-2003, 03:05 AM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well from what I've heard, the new volume is quite diffrent from the older ones. Im still going at City at War, then Volume 2 before I can read volume 4....

03-20-2003, 03:20 AM	#13
CookSux Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sparta Posts: 928	Well I haven't read the original Mirage books, but the 4th volume books from 5+ (the ones I own) kinda suck. They aren't super anything, just civilians. You'll know when you read it.

03-20-2003, 03:40 AM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The TMNT aren't supposed to be super anything. They are just mutants that tend to get involved in things.

03-20-2003, 05:27 AM	#15
beaker Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 483	Do they wear embarassing spandex and underwear over said spandex? Do they have names that end in 'man'? Do they have secret alter egos? No. TMNT are born from indie comics(a stark alternative to mainstream super hero comics) and as such they have remained that way. So are TMNT super heroes? Not in the least bit. Do they kick serious ass? Oh yeahhh! __________________ .:\\.:beaker:.//:. let the 80's entropy begin!

03-20-2003, 05:46 AM	#16
Supermik Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 286	Sure that TMNT are superheros! Have you some doubt about? __________________ Is there a problem?! Supermik solve it... COWABUNGA, AMIGOS! Supermik

03-20-2003, 09:06 AM	#17
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	I didn't have doubt about it, I just wanted to see what everyone else here thought. I personally think that ya don't need to have spandex, or name that ends in "man" to be a superhero, so IMO the TMNT are supheroes, meaning, they have special powers (mutation), and they fight crime (although not seeking it out). __________________ My newest signature.

03-20-2003, 09:43 AM	#18
Supermik Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 286	Excuse me but my previous post wouldn't be a rebuke for you. I was and i'm sure that TMNT are superheros. I'm sure that all TMNT fans think that TMNT are superheros! They have special powers and they fight the crime so they are superheros! Heros in an half shell! __________________ Is there a problem?! Supermik solve it... COWABUNGA, AMIGOS! Supermik

03-20-2003, 09:46 AM	#19
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	right on, supermik! high five __________________ My newest signature.

03-20-2003, 09:57 AM	#20
Donatello Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 565	superhero can mean so many things. for the turtles it's all a mtter of circumstance, yes, they're heros but not for a career. that's what i think makes the tmnt special their careers aren't as heros but they do have some hero traits. i really don't know