story tellers

*Raven* · 03-20-2003, 08:56 PM

I that this would be cool this will be for those tat want to tell storys they would love to see in the turtles comic or new show

me I think it would be funny if in the comic would bring in venus but shes a villian and shes the one that ends up killing splinter like that preview in v.2 #1 that would be cool to see how it would end up.

Peanut · 03-20-2003, 08:58 PM

Venus doesn't exist.....*shudder* She doesn't.....*Pulls out MIB flashy thing*.....exist.

**Kali** · 03-21-2003, 11:50 AM

I always thought it would be cool if Venus was a villainess. In fact, she's kinda gonna be one in my "Ultimate" NT:TNM fic. Well, not a bad guy, but she's not one of the good guys either. Definately not gonna be a goody-goody, incorrect-slang speaking, stereotyped foreigner type like Saban made her. She's gonna kick butt and kill dragons and slap Mikey a few times.

**Karpo_007** · 03-21-2003, 01:18 PM

Venus is dead and burried... There is no way she will be in any Mirage licensed product.

ZigFB · 03-21-2003, 01:21 PM

We'll see her again as soon as some form of TMNT Conpendium is relesed. She does exist, but she'll never show up in an official storylined TMNT product again, as is the wishes of kamesama.

**Karpo_007** · 03-21-2003, 01:23 PM

Well Venus has been completely erased from the official page.. But if they mention Next muation, they have to mention venus too.

**Kali** · 03-21-2003, 02:47 PM

She has not been completely erased. The Next Mutation page is still up on the Official site, and she's mentioned there. Also, she's mentioned in the TMNT Letters for awhile, althought not anymore. And not too long ago a picture with her in it won the art contest there, although they technically don't allow her.

I really don't think she should be placed into any current TMNT projects, she just wouldn't fit. But hey, that's what fan fiction's for.

**Karpo_007** · 03-21-2003, 03:23 PM

Oh, maybe they are starting to Unban her....

*Jephael* · 03-21-2003, 03:26 PM

I don't think Laird minded her image, but it was the idea of her origin that seemed to bug him (that and the possiblity for the TMNT to pro-create).

**Kali** · 03-21-2003, 03:28 PM

I think it was really immature of them to "ban" her in the first place. I mean, tons of characters from other series, while they aren't used any more, aren't "banned" or "erased". Like the Mutanimals.

*Jephael* · 03-21-2003, 03:33 PM

I could see Laird hating Ninjara for the same reason he hated Venus (I always felt Ninjara came off way too bitchy) since she actually dated one of the turtles.

**Karpo_007** · 03-21-2003, 04:04 PM

Thats not the point. I think it is that the TMNT are unique, alone in the world, and never able to reproduce[No, a turtle couldn't reproduce with a fox].

Another reason probably is that they were forced into making a female turtle. Probably one of the main reasons why Laird didn't want anything to do with the show. Eastmand didn't oppose her that much.

**Kali** · 03-21-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Thats not the point. I think it is that the TMNT are unique, alone in the world, and never able to reproduce[No, a turtle couldn't reproduce with a fox].

There was no guarantee that they'd be able to reproduce with Venus either. Mutations on this level are most usually sterile in RL.

And I happen to like that "alone in the world" aspect in the comics. Though it was a lot more powerful back when there actually were only a FEW creatures like them in the world. In vol. 4 every other person is non-human. Not that that's bad, just a little odd...

**Karpo_007** · 03-21-2003, 05:02 PM

Yeah, I haven't gotten into Vol4 yet. I've heard it's pretty diffren
t.

*Raven* · 03-21-2003, 05:09 PM

Hey is any one going to post a story idea?

I still think it would be cool to see venus be a villian becuase I hate
that bitch!

Shellfox · 03-21-2003, 09:28 PM

Why is it when ever some one mentions venus even in this hypothetical situation like this, people still jump on them.

Its just a what if question, nothing more, we all know where most people stand on venus, all thats happening here is asking what we think would be cool, not what really could happen, we know Venus is gone forever it doesn't mean we can't ask what would happen if she could return, its just a what if, not a crusade to get her back.

Peanut · 03-21-2003, 09:38 PM

I think it would be cool for her to be in a story where she's bad, but then she dies saving the turtles. The moral of the story, Venus dies.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 03-21-2003, 09:51 PM

Couldn't we just have her die without giving anyone good reasons to remember her?

*Raven* · 04-05-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye of Sarnath

Couldn't we just have her die without giving anyone good reasons to remember her?

that sounds good

~~Reznorite420~~ · 04-07-2003, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kali

She has not been completely erased. The Next Mutation page is still up on the Official site, and she's mentioned there.

So? Is that supposed to resurrect TNM's popularity? That stuff's only up there for archival purposes.

*sees the flash of the Neuralizer*

Huh? Venus? The Next Mutation? Sounds like a TMNT ripoff to me. Thank GOD it doesn't exist......does it?

03-21-2003, 01:21 PM	#5
ZigFB Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A trash strewn alley, back against the wall, facing the toughest street gang around... Posts: 212	We'll see her again as soon as some form of TMNT Conpendium is relesed. She does exist, but she'll never show up in an official storylined TMNT product again, as is the wishes of kamesama. __________________ Donatello: You're a claustrophobic. Casey Jones: You wanna fist in the mouth? I never even looked at another guy before.

03-21-2003, 03:26 PM	#9
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I don't think Laird minded her image, but it was the idea of her origin that seemed to bug him (that and the possiblity for the TMNT to pro-create). __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-21-2003, 03:33 PM	#11
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I could see Laird hating Ninjara for the same reason he hated Venus (I always felt Ninjara came off way too bitchy) since she actually dated one of the turtles. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-21-2003, 09:51 PM	#18
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	Couldn't we just have her die without giving anyone good reasons to remember her? __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

03-20-2003, 08:56 PM	#1
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	story tellers I that this would be cool this will be for those tat want to tell storys they would love to see in the turtles comic or new show me I think it would be funny if in the comic would bring in venus but shes a villian and shes the one that ends up killing splinter like that preview in v.2 #1 that would be cool to see how it would end up.

03-20-2003, 08:58 PM	#2
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Venus doesn't exist.....shudder She doesn't.....Pulls out MIB flashy thing.....exist.

03-21-2003, 11:50 AM	#3
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	I always thought it would be cool if Venus was a villainess. In fact, she's kinda gonna be one in my "Ultimate" NT:TNM fic. Well, not a bad guy, but she's not one of the good guys either. Definately not gonna be a goody-goody, incorrect-slang speaking, stereotyped foreigner type like Saban made her. She's gonna kick butt and kill dragons and slap Mikey a few times.

03-21-2003, 01:18 PM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Venus is dead and burried... There is no way she will be in any Mirage licensed product.

03-21-2003, 01:23 PM	#6
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well Venus has been completely erased from the official page.. But if they mention Next muation, they have to mention venus too.

03-21-2003, 02:47 PM	#7
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	She has not been completely erased. The Next Mutation page is still up on the Official site, and she's mentioned there. Also, she's mentioned in the TMNT Letters for awhile, althought not anymore. And not too long ago a picture with her in it won the art contest there, although they technically don't allow her. I really don't think she should be placed into any current TMNT projects, she just wouldn't fit. But hey, that's what fan fiction's for.

03-21-2003, 03:23 PM	#8
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Oh, maybe they are starting to Unban her....

03-21-2003, 03:28 PM	#10
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	I think it was really immature of them to "ban" her in the first place. I mean, tons of characters from other series, while they aren't used any more, aren't "banned" or "erased". Like the Mutanimals.

03-21-2003, 04:04 PM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Thats not the point. I think it is that the TMNT are unique, alone in the world, and never able to reproduce[No, a turtle couldn't reproduce with a fox]. Another reason probably is that they were forced into making a female turtle. Probably one of the main reasons why Laird didn't want anything to do with the show. Eastmand didn't oppose her that much.

03-21-2003, 05:02 PM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah, I haven't gotten into Vol4 yet. I've heard it's pretty diffren t.

03-21-2003, 05:09 PM	#15
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	Hey is any one going to post a story idea? I still think it would be cool to see venus be a villian becuase I hate that bitch!

03-21-2003, 09:28 PM	#16
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Why is it when ever some one mentions venus even in this hypothetical situation like this, people still jump on them. Its just a what if question, nothing more, we all know where most people stand on venus, all thats happening here is asking what we think would be cool, not what really could happen, we know Venus is gone forever it doesn't mean we can't ask what would happen if she could return, its just a what if, not a crusade to get her back.

03-21-2003, 09:38 PM	#17
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I think it would be cool for her to be in a story where she's bad, but then she dies saving the turtles. The moral of the story, Venus dies.