Question old cartoon

Umbre · 01-06-2010, 03:07 AM

Hello

I Have one question ... What is the first name of the shredder in old cartoon ... Oroku or saki? He has a brother named Saki ...I'm confused ^^'. Thanks !

*Powder* · 01-06-2010, 03:43 AM

His name is Oroku saki. In the comic books he has a brother named Oroku nagi.

Nelson · 01-06-2010, 05:55 AM

What you say is right, Powder. However, Umbre is asking about the Shredder's name in the Old Toon, where in theory it's the same as in the comics (Saki being the name, Oroku the last name) but then the creators of the show goofed big time when they gave Shredde'r brother the last name of Saki.

Topsu · 01-06-2010, 06:41 AM

Yep, at least in "My brother the bad guy" Oroku is considered to be his first name and Saki his last name, as his brother is Lt. Saki. In other versions (and in other episodes of cartoon?) Oroku is the last name or familyname to be more exact.

Umbre · 01-06-2010, 08:07 AM

Thank you for your answers!

Nelson · 01-06-2010, 10:01 AM

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Thank you for your answers!

The mystery continues, tho...

*XERO* · 01-06-2010, 01:00 PM

Comic-wise, his given name is Saki, with Oroku being the family name. In the cartoon, Oroku is his given name, with Saki being the surname.

Hamato Yoshi WAS Splinter in the toon, where in the comics, Splinter was the PET RAT of Yoshi.

Michelangelo was misspelled Michaelangelo until 2001.

Darth Vader was Luke's father...

*ToTheNines* · 01-06-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

In the cartoon, Oroku is his given name, with Saki being the surname.

Not true. They just assed it up in one episode.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 01-06-2010, 02:09 PM

The traditional Japanese fashion is family name first and given name last, which was the case in the Mirage comics as well.

*Raph's Girl* · 01-06-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not true. They just assed it up in one episode.

Yeah.. "My Brother the Bad Guy" where his cop brother is Kazuo Saki. But Im thinking Kazuo didn't want to be associated with his mom (who was a criminal in her own right) and brother so he just simply changed his name.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-06-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Michelangelo was misspelled Michaelangelo until 2001.

That's kind of relative, though, isn't it?

I mean, my daughter's name is Alanna and yet I'm positive there are Alanas, Allanas, and Alannahs. If you go back far enough to the right country, I'm even willing to bet there is an "original" spelling of the name.... but does that mean any of those other ones are "misspelled?"

If "Michaelangelo" was the name he was given by Splinter, spelled just like that, then how is that misspelled?

Yes, I realize that Peter is retroactively saying that it was always intended to be spelled "Michelangelo" so it was a goof on their part, but I'm just sayin'...

TurtleGuy · 01-06-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not true. They just assed it up in one episode.

True considering in "The Legend of Koji" his ancestor's name is Oroku Sancho instead of Sancho Saki.

*ToTheNines* · 01-06-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Yeah.. "My Brother the Bad Guy" where his cop brother is Kazuo Saki. But Im thinking Kazuo didn't want to be associated with his mom (who was a criminal in her own right) and brother so he just simply changed his name.

What bothers me is that I actually like that episode lol. I wish that mix up just happened in some sh*t-bag episode that I'll never watch again like "the turtle terminator"

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True considering in "The Legend of Koji" his ancestor's name is Oroku Sancho instead of Sancho Saki.

While Sancho actually is a Japanese word/name, I always laugh at how latin it sounds lol

*Raph's Girl* · 01-06-2010, 03:55 PM

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While Sancho actually is a Japanese word/name, I always laugh at how latin it sounds lol

Yeah.. Sancho is a type of Japanese pepper... *lol* But yeah...it's also a Spanish name that derives from the latin word (sanctus) for Holy/Saintly.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 01-06-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's kind of relative, though, isn't it?

I mean, my daughter's name is Alanna and yet I'm positive there are Alanas, Allanas, and Alannahs. If you go back far enough to the right country, I'm even willing to bet there is an "original" spelling of the name.... but does that mean any of those other ones are "misspelled?"

If "Michaelangelo" was the name he was given by Splinter, spelled just like that, then how is that misspelled?

Yes, I realize that Peter is retroactively saying that it was always intended to be spelled "Michelangelo" so it was a goof on their part, but I'm just sayin'...

In the 19th century and probably before, correct spelling wasn't an issue, presumably because literacy was so low in that era.

**Jester** · 01-06-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Yeah.. Sancho is a type of Japanese pepper... *lol* But yeah...it's also a Spanish name that derives from the latin word (sanctus) for Holy/Saintly.

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Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

In the 19th century and probably before, correct spelling wasn't an issue, presumably because literacy was so low in that era.

*XERO* · 01-06-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not true. They just assed it up in one episode.

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Yeah.. "My Brother the Bad Guy" where his cop brother is Kazuo Saki. But Im thinking Kazuo didn't want to be associated with his mom (who was a criminal in her own right) and brother so he just simply changed his name.

Ah, okay, thanks. My bad. I just went by memory.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If "Michaelangelo" was the name he was given by Splinter, spelled just like that, then how is that misspelled?

More of a typo than a misspell, since you yourself said that Peter goofed up.

Anywho, it's been rectified.

Darth Vader is still Luke's father, though.

*Koi* · 02-02-2010, 09:15 PM

I believe I heard about an episode that Raph was a singing telegram person. What episode was that?

*Coola Yagami* · 02-03-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

What bothers me is that I actually like that episode lol. I wish that mix up just happened in some sh*t-bag episode that I'll never watch again like "the turtle terminator"

While Sancho actually is a Japanese word/name, I always laugh at how latin it sounds lol

LMAO in Mexico Sancho is slang for 'the other man'. So I guess Saki was an evil ninja, Kazuo was a cop, and their ancestor Sancho was the 'plumber that was fixing all the women's pipes' in town while their hubbies were away. LMAO

*ToTheNines* · 02-03-2010, 09:20 AM

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I believe I heard about an episode that Raph was a singing telegram person. What episode was that?

"Splinter Vanishes"

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LMAO in Mexico Sancho is slang for 'the other man'. So I guess Saki was an evil ninja, Kazuo was a cop, and their ancestor Sancho was the 'plumber that was fixing all the women's pipes' in town while their hubbies were away. LMAO

nice.

01-06-2010, 03:07 AM	#1
Umbre Mouser Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6	Question old cartoon Hello I Have one question ... What is the first name of the shredder in old cartoon ... Oroku or saki? He has a brother named Saki ...I'm confused ^^'. Thanks !

01-06-2010, 01:00 PM	#7
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Comic-wise, his given name is Saki, with Oroku being the family name. In the cartoon, Oroku is his given name, with Saki being the surname. Hamato Yoshi WAS Splinter in the toon, where in the comics, Splinter was the PET RAT of Yoshi. Michelangelo was misspelled Michaelangelo until 2001. Darth Vader was Luke's father... __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

01-06-2010, 03:43 AM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	His name is Oroku saki. In the comic books he has a brother named Oroku nagi.

01-06-2010, 05:55 AM	#3
Nelson Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 673	What you say is right, Powder. However, Umbre is asking about the Shredder's name in the Old Toon, where in theory it's the same as in the comics (Saki being the name, Oroku the last name) but then the creators of the show goofed big time when they gave Shredde'r brother the last name of Saki.

01-06-2010, 06:41 AM	#4
Topsu Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 400	Yep, at least in "My brother the bad guy" Oroku is considered to be his first name and Saki his last name, as his brother is Lt. Saki. In other versions (and in other episodes of cartoon?) Oroku is the last name or familyname to be more exact.

01-06-2010, 08:07 AM	#5
Umbre Mouser Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6	Thank you for your answers!

01-06-2010, 02:09 PM	#9
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	The traditional Japanese fashion is family name first and given name last, which was the case in the Mirage comics as well.

02-02-2010, 09:15 PM	#18
Koi Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,787	I believe I heard about an episode that Raph was a singing telegram person. What episode was that?