The Relation of Krang & Shredder

*J Legault* · 03-23-2003, 12:45 PM

I been thinking about this since episode 6 & 7 thats been talking about the Utroms. We all know that Krang is like the Utrom only he not 100% Utrom. But there's something I don't get. If Ouka Saki hates the Utroms in the new Series than why did he get Krang for a partner in the original series? I've only seen Several episodes if only I seen all the episodes from Season 1-3 Id know why. But can some explain to me why.

**Karpo_007** · 03-23-2003, 12:51 PM

This and Original series have nothing to do with each other. Nor is Krang a Utrom, they just copied his looks from them. I hope that clears it up.

Shadow · 03-23-2003, 01:03 PM

how ever...isn't it true that in the comic strip krang was a utrom? I think that's the case, but i could be wrong.

But yeah like karpo said, in the old cartoon krang was based on the utroms from the comic books. And the new cartoon has nothing to do with the old cartoon...it is much more closely based on the comics than the origional cartoon was.

**Kali** · 03-23-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

how ever...isn't it true that in the comic strip krang was a utrom? I think that's the case, but i could be wrong.

Yes, he was, and I thought that was cool. In the comic strip, it's basically all (or most) of the universes mixed together. I love reading them.

But yeah, like Karpo said.

**Karpo_007** · 03-23-2003, 02:37 PM

I love the comic strip too. It's basicly Archie with some Mirage touch.

lethrhd · 03-23-2003, 05:59 PM

What comic strip you be a' ferrin' to?

What he means is what comic strip are you referring to? Does this help all you gator haters out there

*Nickokapo* · 03-23-2003, 06:34 PM

I dink he be talkin 'bout the strip at www.ninjaturtles.com

*J Legault* · 03-23-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

This and Original series have nothing to do with each other. Nor is Krang a Utrom, they just copied his looks from them. I hope that clears it up.

That's what I said Krang's not 100% Utrom But did the Original Shredder hate or know what a Utrom is?

Apple Cat · 03-23-2003, 09:26 PM

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*J Legault* · 03-23-2003, 10:20 PM

OK OK So Shredder never seen a Large Brain Cell Before. I'm trying to say this but I know that Krang is a clone with Utrom looks but NOT a Utrom. Like I said that I never seen the first episode with Krang in it but was there a resind why Shredder wanted Krang?

Vroomkid · 03-23-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by J Legault

OK OK So Shredder never seen a Large Brain Cell Before. I'm trying to say this but I know that Krang is a clone with Utrom looks but NOT a Utrom. Like I said that I never seen the first episode with Krang in it but was there a resind why Shredder wanted Krang?

I think it trends along the time of Krang giving Shredder the technology to dominate Earth and in return Shredder will build Krang a body to dominate Dimension X...that's what I always thought as a kid anyway.

*Duke* · 03-23-2003, 10:31 PM

The whole krang origin was never really explained. Sure we all know the supreme warlord of Deminsion X was bainished to earth and he lost his body. But the cartoon never really explains how he lost his body. Just that Krang teamed up with Shredder because he wanted Shredder to make him a body and Shredder teamed up with Krang because of his technology (the technodrome).

**Kali** · 03-23-2003, 10:32 PM

In the old cartoon, I assume Shredder partnered up with Krang because Krang promised him alien technology that would make him a very powerful man. Krang needed human help in order to accomplish some things (like building his robot body.)

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 03-23-2003, 11:17 PM

The Archie comic series (especially issue #12) has some great insight into Krang's origins. Also check out the profiles at www.ninjaturtles.com which for some reason are based on the Archie comics. (one would think they'd be based on the Mirage series)

BTW Let's hear it for Terror of the Swamp! Funniest bad fake cajun accent since that McDonald's commercial! You Rock Man!!

**Karpo_007** · 03-24-2003, 06:38 AM

The profiles are pretty much mixed from every universe.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 03-24-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

The whole krang origin was never really explained. Sure we all know the supreme warlord of Deminsion X was bainished to earth and he lost his body. But the cartoon never really explains how he lost his body. Just that Krang teamed up with Shredder because he wanted Shredder to make him a body and Shredder teamed up with Krang because of his technology (the technodrome).

Yes, this was one thing that was never explained that I wish the old cartoon would have talked about. It's pretty much left open for debate. We viewers are left to decide Krang's origin. It's probably for the better though because whatever we come up with is a hundred times better than what we might have been given in the show:

"Krang just fell from the sky, Shredder tripped over him while licking a strawberry ice cream cone, and it was then that they both realized they could help each other rule the world. Krang would get a body, and Shredder would get all the Dimension X ice cream he could eat."

"You may be onto something, Krang." - Shredder, from "Get Shredder!"

Donatello · 03-24-2003, 10:09 AM

with krang it's like this when the old show began the creators saw what the utrom design is. that's all they just took that basic design and made a character. he isn't a utrom

*J Legault* · 03-25-2003, 09:21 AM

OK So krang Promised shredder for advance technology. At least I understanding this alot more. When i was little I always thought Krang's Body suit had a name but I guess I was wrong.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 03-25-2003, 10:26 AM

If you ask me, I think the original cartoon intentionally wanted to confuse the viewers into what Krang's origin was. In "Four Musketurtles", there's a flashback scene where Krang is telling Shedder about the ruby from Dimension X. In that scene there are at least 2 Krang-ish lookng things in bubble walkers.

Three seasons later in "Invasion of the Krangazoids", Krang makes 6 clones of himself, but they start growing bodies because, according to Donatello, the DNA in him didn't account for the loss of his body and that the full clones are what Krang looked like before he was banished (Nicko, if you still have that picture, show it).

**Karpo_007** · 03-25-2003, 10:30 AM

Thats due the fact the series had so many diifrent writers. Left hand didn't know what right was doing.

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03-23-2003, 10:20 PM	#10
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	OK OK So Shredder never seen a Large Brain Cell Before. I'm trying to say this but I know that Krang is a clone with Utrom looks but NOT a Utrom. Like I said that I never seen the first episode with Krang in it but was there a resind why Shredder wanted Krang? __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

03-23-2003, 11:17 PM	#14
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	The Archie comic series (especially issue #12) has some great insight into Krang's origins. Also check out the profiles at www.ninjaturtles.com which for some reason are based on the Archie comics. (one would think they'd be based on the Mirage series) BTW Let's hear it for Terror of the Swamp! Funniest bad fake cajun accent since that McDonald's commercial! You Rock Man!! __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

03-23-2003, 12:45 PM	#1
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	The Relation of Krang & Shredder I been thinking about this since episode 6 & 7 thats been talking about the Utroms. We all know that Krang is like the Utrom only he not 100% Utrom. But there's something I don't get. If Ouka Saki hates the Utroms in the new Series than why did he get Krang for a partner in the original series? I've only seen Several episodes if only I seen all the episodes from Season 1-3 Id know why. But can some explain to me why. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

03-23-2003, 12:51 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	This and Original series have nothing to do with each other. Nor is Krang a Utrom, they just copied his looks from them. I hope that clears it up.

03-23-2003, 01:03 PM	#3
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	how ever...isn't it true that in the comic strip krang was a utrom? I think that's the case, but i could be wrong. But yeah like karpo said, in the old cartoon krang was based on the utroms from the comic books. And the new cartoon has nothing to do with the old cartoon...it is much more closely based on the comics than the origional cartoon was.

03-23-2003, 02:37 PM	#5
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I love the comic strip too. It's basicly Archie with some Mirage touch.

03-23-2003, 10:31 PM	#12
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	The whole krang origin was never really explained. Sure we all know the supreme warlord of Deminsion X was bainished to earth and he lost his body. But the cartoon never really explains how he lost his body. Just that Krang teamed up with Shredder because he wanted Shredder to make him a body and Shredder teamed up with Krang because of his technology (the technodrome).

03-23-2003, 10:32 PM	#13
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	In the old cartoon, I assume Shredder partnered up with Krang because Krang promised him alien technology that would make him a very powerful man. Krang needed human help in order to accomplish some things (like building his robot body.)

03-24-2003, 06:38 AM	#15
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The profiles are pretty much mixed from every universe.

03-24-2003, 10:09 AM	#17
Donatello Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 565	with krang it's like this when the old show began the creators saw what the utrom design is. that's all they just took that basic design and made a character. he isn't a utrom

03-25-2003, 09:21 AM	#18
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	OK So krang Promised shredder for advance technology. At least I understanding this alot more. When i was little I always thought Krang's Body suit had a name but I guess I was wrong. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

03-25-2003, 10:26 AM	#19
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	If you ask me, I think the original cartoon intentionally wanted to confuse the viewers into what Krang's origin was. In "Four Musketurtles", there's a flashback scene where Krang is telling Shedder about the ruby from Dimension X. In that scene there are at least 2 Krang-ish lookng things in bubble walkers. Three seasons later in "Invasion of the Krangazoids", Krang makes 6 clones of himself, but they start growing bodies because, according to Donatello, the DNA in him didn't account for the loss of his body and that the full clones are what Krang looked like before he was banished (Nicko, if you still have that picture, show it).

03-25-2003, 10:30 AM	#20
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Thats due the fact the series had so many diifrent writers. Left hand didn't know what right was doing.