Seein Red

[(DC)]

For the new 2012 movie, should the all red headbands come back? Not only is it historicly accurate but since they are basing more on the old comics it would make sense. It's hard enough to find enough fabric to make headband for four turtles in the sewer, let alone four multicolored ones.

[Oculus Orbus]

It would be so nice to have them all wearing red bandanas.

[The Stryker]

Who said it would be based more on the old comics?

[odupianist]

As much as I'd like to see that, I highly doubt it will happen. Movie execs see the viewing audience dumb enough that they feel we need to see a color differential rather than just look at the weapons or hear their voices. Personally, I'd love to see the red bandanas, I just find it highly improbable. I think the first movie is the closest we'll get to the old comics, but I could be wrong.

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

I'd like the red ones to be in at least one flashback scene (seeing that they're most likely to use multi-colored)

[sdp]

That will never happen in any media besides the Mirage universe which is good since I think all red bandannas is kinda stupid and makes as much sense as colored bandannas. I can see it happening in the beginning though in a flashback or Splinter giving them colors to distinguish them, people wouldn't care about that and it'd be a nice nod for all the Mirage fans.

[Cipher]

I don't expect it to happen at all, but I'd love it if it did.

The colored masks are ridiculous. And there are so many other ways to identify them on film. Weapons, skin color, voice, even body-type if they go that route (which I'm not a fan of).

That will never happen in any media besides the Mirage universe which is good since I think all red bandannas is kinda stupid and makes as much sense as colored bandannas.

Look, turtles in masks is inherently stupid to begin with. But four individually styled masks is few steps stupider than a ninja team sharing one color for solidarity and enemy confusion. And as some one else pointed out, it's not like Splinter was running to fabric stores or anything.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Cipher Classic

The colored masks are ridiculous. And there are so many other ways to identify them on film. Weapons, skin color, voice, even body-type if they go that route (which I'm not a fan of).

Weapons you would have to really pay attention to, Voice wouldn't matter in fight scenes and Skin Color would require them to be really well lit all the time.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Weapons you would have to really pay attention to, Voice wouldn't matter in fight scenes and Skin Color would require them to be really well lit all the time.

So then everyone watching Turtles Forever was constantly baffled by which Mirage Turtle they were watching at the time, ammirite? People loved 'em.

And voice doesn't matter in fight scenes? Problem solved because those are the only times when they're guarunteed to be brandishing their weapons.

Still not saying it's plausible. But it's a lot more workable than people give it credit for.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by (DC)

For the new 2012 movie, should the all red headbands come back?

Yes. And it would send a firm message that this is a new beginning/reboot, not a continuance of the other horrible movies.

[Kendamu]

If it happens, cool. If not, whatever. I don't know what to expect right now.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd love to see the red bandannas, I think they are awesome.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Cipher Classic

So then everyone watching Turtles Forever was constantly baffled by which Mirage Turtle they were watching at the time, ammirite? People loved 'em.

I was confused a few times but it didn't really matter since it was like 7 minutes.

[Kendamu]

It never really confused me. Their voices were distinct enough and they were almost always with weapons in-view or in some sort of variation of a classic pose.

[jaymq]

I think it'd be awesome, but my hopes aren't high on the bandannas.

As for Turtles Forever Mirage turtles... they were also in black and white, not just 'red bandannas'. Their bodies were all drawn the same along with every other Mirage issue 1 thing they could fit in. So, if there was confusion, it was because they were being accurate to mirage issue 1. if the movie is in color, they could just as easily give them different skin tones or something else if they wanna differentiate from 2k3.

Just some thoughts, I think it'd be cool, but it wouldn't really bother me as long as they have good personalities, animation and plot.

Oh and I hardly think Splinter of all people would be 'confused' who was who after raising them. Not unless there's something wrong with his senses. I'm not keen on people who can't tell the difference between twins (or more if that's the case) if they've been around them for more than a few weeks. Just seems silly to me. Even twins have differences.

[Leo656]

Never been a fan of all-red. I suspect a lot of people who prefer it only do so because it was the original and thus, "the way it was meant to be". But I disagree with that logic; Superman's "S" logo went through dozens of redesigns over decades before coming to the version we all know. I doubt anyone wants to see it revert to a plain yellow triangle with an S scrawled in it, just because that's how it looked in Action Comics #1.

It's just easier to follow the characters in motion when they're all wearing different colors, as well as helping people who don't follow the characters learn who is who much easier. It serves a purpose and isn't as ridiculous as some make it sound, given the fact the turtles were able to not only find masks to wear, but kneepads, elbow pads, belts, a variety of weapons, etc.

All red looks cool enough as well, but I feel the multi-colored masks work best across a wide range of media.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Never been a fan of all-red. I suspect a lot of people who prefer it only do so because it was the original and thus, "the way it was meant to be".

No. Not only because. Find me a ninja clan that runs around playing dress-up with different mood-ring colors. One that would would seem pretty metrosexual and weird to me. I'd imagine most folks in ninja clans would all wear the same color bandanna.

But yes, to answer seriously: multi-colored bandannas make the TMNT seem like less of a legitimate ninja clan. Which is kind of a big deal given they're literally called "Ninja Turtles."

It's just easier to follow the characters in motion when they're all wearing different colors, as well as helping people who don't follow the characters learn who is who much easier. It serves a purpose and isn't as ridiculous as some make it sound, given the fact the turtles were able to not only find masks to wear, but kneepads, elbow pads, belts, a variety of weapons, etc.

I'd agree that the multi-colored bandannas is a lesser evil than the lettered belts... but that doesn't make multi-colored bandannas any less unnecessary or demeaning to audiences.

It never really confused me. Their voices were distinct enough and they were almost always with weapons in-view or in some sort of variation of a classic pose.

There's that, and then there's the simple fact that their bodies, skin speckles, faces, builds all look very different. I mean, show me the suits from the films or even the CGI Turtles from the last awful movie... remove the bandannas and all color from them, I can still tell you exactly which one is which without hesitation. You're telling me you can't? You're a liar.

I've said it before, but arguing "They all look alike without different colored bandannas to tell them apart!" is dangerously close to, "All black people look alike, can't some of them wear different hats so I can tell them apart?"

[sdp]

I originally wrote a big post on why people would hate it and it wouldn't work but decided to delete it since I'm kind of tired of discussing this from my other topic.

Fact is no matter what anyone thinks we will never see red bandannas from the turtles outside of the Mirage comics.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Fact is no matter what anyone thinks we will never see red bandannas from the turtles outside of the Mirage comics.

Probably not, you're right. But that doesn't mean we need to bend over and pretend it's a good idea that there not be.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'd imagine most folks in ninja clans would all wear the same color bandanna.

Of course they would, but it's pretty pointless to argue the "realistic-ness" of anything relating to Ninja Turtles if you wanna break it down. I know that argument's been used ad nauseum over the years, but it's true.

I mean, what about the Green Lantern Corps, if you really wanna split hairs? They've been likened to the Marine Corps. I don't think the Marines let people individualize their uniforms the way GLs do. But I'm oh-so-glad that Guy and Kyle and others get to have unique uniforms, because it suits them individually. In the end it doesn't matter, because GLs aren't real Marines and the TMNT aren't a real ninja clan.

Fact is, all-red vs. multi-colored is just an individual's preference, nothing more. One is no more "realistic" nor "demeaning" than the other, unless one chooses to see it that way. I choose to see it as a separation of universes, nothing more. I honestly never knew anyone even felt so strongly about it until I found the internet.