What happened to Casey's Dad?

[Jester]

I just finished re-watching Dragons Rising and at the end Casey goes to his Dad's grave. Is it implied that the Purple Dragons, and in particular Hun, kill his dad?

[Candy Kappa]

I think that's it, they keep it very vague if I remember correctly.

[BubblyShell22]

I always thought that he died in the fire that destroyed their store. But then I saw the flashback where Casey is begging his dad not to go to the cops but he does. Maybe the Dragons found out about that and killed him then.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I always thought that he died in the fire that destroyed their store. But then I saw the flashback where Casey is begging his dad not to go to the cops but he does. Maybe the Dragons found out about that and killed him then.

I barely remember that one, but I think that's a good assumption.

[BubblyShell22]

I can't remember the exact ep where that flashback took place, but I do remember it vaguely. It makes sense that the Dragons killed him then because he gave them up.

[AT-Man]

Doesn't it seem Hun was younger when he burned Casey's dad's store? But he's an adult when they kill Hamato Yoshi and he gets the scar. Well, wasn't Casey a boy when the turtles taught him stuff in Lessons? So, Hun was an adult with a scar BEFORE the turtles were even born and Splinter was mutated. But he is younger when they burn the store and when Casey is a boy (and this is also when the turtles are children). Although I'm not quite sure how old Casey is in Lessons, but I thought he's about the same age as when the store burned down. Strange, anyone?

[ToTheNines]

Good eye! Inaccurate flashbacks I guess...

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by AT-Man

Doesn't it seem Hun was younger when he burned Casey's dad's store? But he's an adult when they kill Hamato Yoshi and he gets the scar. Well, wasn't Casey a boy when the turtles taught him stuff in Lessons? So, Hun was an adult with a scar BEFORE the turtles were even born and Splinter was mutated. But he is younger when they burn the store and when Casey is a boy (and this is also when the turtles are children). Although I'm not quite sure how old Casey is in Lessons, but I thought he's about the same age as when the store burned down. Strange, anyone?

Clones and/or time travel

somewhere there is an unscarred Hun flying around in a blue police box

[sdp]

Well its not like its ambiguious, its heavily implied the Purple Dragons kill his dad, it couldn't be made more obvious probably because of censors but yeah they pretty much tell you.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by sdp

Well its not like its ambiguious, its heavily implied the Purple Dragons kill his dad, it couldn't be made more obvious probably because of censors but yeah they pretty much tell you.

This is a show where characters die onscreen, and the Utrom Council explicitly refers to the thousands upon thousands of lives taken by Ch'rell.

I don't think the censors would object to a mention of Casey Sr. being murdered.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I can't remember the exact ep where that flashback took place, but I do remember it vaguely. It makes sense that the Dragons killed him then because he gave them up.

The flash back of Casey telling his dad not to go is in Dragons Rising.

As for Casey in The Lesson, he's about the same age as in the flashback. I think it's just a flub, as I never cared for the Lesson anyway. I often wondered how old Kid Casey was when he met the Kid Turtles. I assume that Casey is in his late 20's to early 30s in the 4kids series, so if he was say 12 when the turtles train him, they'd be...what 2? I dunna.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by AT-Man

So, Hun was an adult with a scar BEFORE the turtles were even born and Splinter was mutated.

Turtles aren't born, they're hatched. Go back to school!

Originally Posted by Jester

I assume that Casey is in his late 20's to early 30s in the 4kids series, so if he was say 12 when the turtles train him, they'd be...what 2?

Turtles mature faster than humans. Heck, the suckers are hatched fully able to walk and knowing to seek cover.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by gobo

Turtles mature faster than humans. Heck, the suckers are hatched fully able to walk and knowing to seek cover.

True...and the mutagen affected them too, but then what of the Future Turtles in Archie Comics...shouldn't they be dead? DON'T MAKE ME THINK THAT!

[gobo]

I recall seeing a tortoise on a school field trip at a zoo forever ago that the guide told us was 400 years old. I guess if kept away from the three horsemen leading up to Death, all turtles can have a lifespan significantly longer than humans. I'm hypothesizing here though.

[Jester]

According to the pet care guide I found online, red eared sliders, of which the Turtles are supposedly mutated, live 25-50 years depending on the type of care provided. So as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...they're also Middle-aged Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[gobo]

So, the future Turtles are zombies? O_O That changes things... a lot.

[Jester]

I think it's assumed that the mutagen extended their lifespan...but yeah, not that much. Maybe Murph thought all Turtles not just tortoises had 100+ year life spans. Box Turtles (which all my childhood "Raphs" were) have 125 year life spans.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by AT-Man

Doesn't it seem Hun was younger when he burned Casey's dad's store? But he's an adult when they kill Hamato Yoshi and he gets the scar. Well, wasn't Casey a boy when the turtles taught him stuff in Lessons? So, Hun was an adult with a scar BEFORE the turtles were even born and Splinter was mutated. But he is younger when they burn the store and when Casey is a boy (and this is also when the turtles are children). Although I'm not quite sure how old Casey is in Lessons, but I thought he's about the same age as when the store burned down. Strange, anyone?

I think he's like 10-12 in lessons. It's very possible that he was meant to look younger in the flashback with Hun but they didn't want to design another Casey so they just used the same one. I have no idea honestly. It's more likely it's just an error with the scar. Though I can't say Hun looks much older. If anything there could easily be just a year or even a few months difference there between that event and him helping to kill Yoshi.

If anyone has a pic of Casey from The Lesson you can compare.

Spoiler:

[Jester]

There are screen grabs here:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/...nopses/64.html

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Young Casey looks like a bum.