Ninja Turtles and Their Elements of Nature

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 01:11 PM

Hello everyone. This is my first thread. I would like to discuss the mysteries behind each turtles headband. In Ninjutsu, there are five elements:
Chi-土 (earth)
Sui-水 (water)
Ka- 火 (fire)
Fu- 風 (Wind)
Ku- 無 (Void)
All of my life I have noticed each turtle's personality. Leonardo is like water. He is always calm and he adapts to every situation. Raphael is like fire. He is hot headed and hot tempered. In a fight, he is a force to be reckoned with.
Michaelangelo is like earth. His attitude is "down to earth" Get it?

Also he is stubborn with much to learn. Now, where does Donatello fit in? Is he wind or void? Here are my thoughts: If he qualifies under wind, his attitude is passive. When his brothers tease him for knowing too much or not being hip enough, Don never adds wood to the fire. His superior wit allows him to change the subject so the situation can change in his favor. If Don qualifies under void, he does have the power to make something from nothing. I barely seen him angry in the cartoon or movies series. I will like to know from you all. What do you think?

*Revan* · 07-13-2011, 01:23 PM

They all wear red bandanas...

Leo

Raph

Don

Mike

lol. Anyway I would say Mike is like wind in that he cannot be controlled. He just does what he does and goes where he goes

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 01:30 PM

That is a good observation Neutrino. He is all over the place. As for all of them having red headbands, that is crap that NECA put out.

*Master Splinter* · 07-13-2011, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iroh

That is a good observation Neutrino. He is all over the place. As for all of them having red headbands, that is crap that NECA put out.

Um, actually they all originally had red headbands in the original comics that Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird created back in 1983/84... They did not get colored headbands until the cartoon came out...

-ms

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 02:06 PM

Never read the comic.

I will love to buy them though because I've missed out on alot. In 1983/84, I was too young to read...

*ssjup81* · 07-13-2011, 02:32 PM

I personally would've pegged Mikey as wind and Donny as earth (maybe).

*Donnie* · 07-13-2011, 03:33 PM

I actually really like your evaluations. You sound like you've generally put interest in this matter, and it's an interesting concept that nobody has really talked about in depth before, at least to my knowledge.

I like Donatello as wind, I think it fits. His head is usually in the clouds thinking about whatever interests him at the time; plus he's naturally passive. As void, it would make for a very interesting story arc a la Vol.1 #37 (when Donatello felt he was the shaman) because I can see the void element being the "unique" one, if you understand what I mean. But I'm also biased because I'm a Donny fan. I like him better as wind, though.

I think what could be interesting would be if Michelangelo was void; citing his loyalty/innocent emotionalism as motives for saying so (his creating something out of nothing). It could be utilized in that way, too. I can see him as earth, also. Mikey was sort of butchered in popular culture, but he is a really down-to-earth Turtle.

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 04:22 PM

Thank you DonnyTMNT. Yes, I have placed alot of thought into this. For instance, I believe Splinter is the one that gave each turtle their headband. Splinter had to wait until they reached their respective ages to train in Ninjutsu. Each turtle reacted differently to the training thus giving them their personalities regarding life. The color of headband is elementary. Blue is water, Red is fire, Orange to me can be earth, and Purple is void. Ninjutsu always been one of the martial arts I've been studying all my life. So, I just wanted to share my thoughts on this awesome forum.

*Revan* · 07-13-2011, 04:28 PM

If you are interested in the bandana-to-personality relationship check this out.

We tried to talk about it a while back but the discussion fizzled.

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino

If you are interested in the bandana-to-personality relationship check this out.

We tried to talk about it a while back but the discussion fizzled.

Yeah, I checked it out. It went downhill quickly. That thread was all about color obsessions. I am here to shed light on this matter.

*Bauer536* · 07-13-2011, 06:49 PM

Wow. With Nickelodeon, Don + Leo + Raph + Mike = Aang.

Anyway, I agree Mikey is down to earth. What I don't agree with is that I don't really feel he was butchered for pop culture. He just changed into a Jack Black. That's how I see him.

Anyway, which element fits Splinter's?

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 07:15 PM

Splinter is the element of Mu 木 (wood)
Besides being a wood rat, he endured all of life's struggles according to the elements stated. There were times when he was stubborn and full of anger, he has a down to earth attitude, he can make something out of nothing, and is now calm like water. So, he is like the tree that gives life to these turtles. In Ninjutsu, wood can be symbolized as the center of the elements.

*ssjup81* · 07-13-2011, 07:20 PM

I always read that kanji character as "ki".

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I always read that kanji character as "ki".

Yes, it is "ki" or "moku" in Japanese but one must realize that kanji came from Chinese. I am using Chinese Pinyin.

*ssjup81* · 07-13-2011, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iroh

Yes, it is "ki" or "moku" in Japanese but one must realize that kanji came from Chinese. I am using Chinese Pinyin.

Ah, okay and I feel stupid for not catching that, especially since "moku" is used for "mokuyoubi". ><

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 11:12 PM

It's okay. You learn more everyday. Anymore thoughts regarding my topic?

*Powder* · 07-13-2011, 11:28 PM

Playmates did a line of turtles representing elements, check 'em out. Mutant Masters.

Iroh · 07-13-2011, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

Playmates did a line of turtles representing elements, check 'em out. Mutant Masters.

Seen it! Hahaha! All wrong!

**Jester** · 07-14-2011, 12:14 AM

Who's "heart"?

Wait....

*Luzmagica* · 07-14-2011, 12:49 AM

Yep...balance of 4 general elements applied to all the aspects of the life (work, personalities,friendship....)... it is the western/occidental concept of Ying-Yang... In my opinion: And I had post this one before: This thread:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30384

Leonardo: WATER: Flexibility, adjustment, sensibility, fluency, reservation(reserve), intimacy, pity, need to link itself(himself,herself) emotionally and service.

Raphael: FIRE: Vitality, passion, vehemence, energy, enthusiasm, force, honesty, radiation, abruptness, will, initiative, exaltation and restlessness.

Donatello:LAND: Firmness, stability, tenacity and accumulated energy, search of the concrete thing, practicidad, patience, autodiscipline, caution, safety in the procedures and convention.

Michelangelo:AIR: Freedom, ideas, looseness, change, I centre in his(her,your) mind, analysis, indifference, perspective, verbosity, curiosity, conceptualization and need to socialize.

Adding:
Splinter: WOOD or Metal// VOID As center in Turtles´ Life (Maybe even Heart?

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07-13-2011, 01:11 PM	#1
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	Ninja Turtles and Their Elements of Nature Hello everyone. This is my first thread. I would like to discuss the mysteries behind each turtles headband. In Ninjutsu, there are five elements: Chi-土 (earth) Sui-水 (water) Ka- 火 (fire) Fu- 風 (Wind) Ku- 無 (Void) All of my life I have noticed each turtle's personality. Leonardo is like water. He is always calm and he adapts to every situation. Raphael is like fire. He is hot headed and hot tempered. In a fight, he is a force to be reckoned with. Michaelangelo is like earth. His attitude is "down to earth" Get it? Also he is stubborn with much to learn. Now, where does Donatello fit in? Is he wind or void? Here are my thoughts: If he qualifies under wind, his attitude is passive. When his brothers tease him for knowing too much or not being hip enough, Don never adds wood to the fire. His superior wit allows him to change the subject so the situation can change in his favor. If Don qualifies under void, he does have the power to make something from nothing. I barely seen him angry in the cartoon or movies series. I will like to know from you all. What do you think? __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming Last edited by Iroh; 07-13-2011 at 02:21 PM.

07-13-2011, 01:23 PM	#2
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	They all wear red bandanas... Leo Raph Don Mike lol. Anyway I would say Mike is like wind in that he cannot be controlled. He just does what he does and goes where he goes __________________

07-13-2011, 02:06 PM	#5
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	Never read the comic. I will love to buy them though because I've missed out on alot. In 1983/84, I was too young to read... __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming Last edited by Iroh; 07-13-2011 at 02:45 PM.

07-13-2011, 04:22 PM	#8
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	Thank you DonnyTMNT. Yes, I have placed alot of thought into this. For instance, I believe Splinter is the one that gave each turtle their headband. Splinter had to wait until they reached their respective ages to train in Ninjutsu. Each turtle reacted differently to the training thus giving them their personalities regarding life. The color of headband is elementary. Blue is water, Red is fire, Orange to me can be earth, and Purple is void. Ninjutsu always been one of the martial arts I've been studying all my life. So, I just wanted to share my thoughts on this awesome forum. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming

07-13-2011, 04:28 PM	#9
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	If you are interested in the bandana-to-personality relationship check this out. We tried to talk about it a while back but the discussion fizzled. __________________

07-13-2011, 01:30 PM	#3
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	That is a good observation Neutrino. He is all over the place. As for all of them having red headbands, that is crap that NECA put out. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming

07-13-2011, 02:32 PM	#6
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I personally would've pegged Mikey as wind and Donny as earth (maybe).

07-13-2011, 03:33 PM	#7
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	I actually really like your evaluations. You sound like you've generally put interest in this matter, and it's an interesting concept that nobody has really talked about in depth before, at least to my knowledge. I like Donatello as wind, I think it fits. His head is usually in the clouds thinking about whatever interests him at the time; plus he's naturally passive. As void, it would make for a very interesting story arc a la Vol.1 #37 (when Donatello felt he was the shaman) because I can see the void element being the "unique" one, if you understand what I mean. But I'm also biased because I'm a Donny fan. I like him better as wind, though. I think what could be interesting would be if Michelangelo was void; citing his loyalty/innocent emotionalism as motives for saying so (his creating something out of nothing). It could be utilized in that way, too. I can see him as earth, also. Mikey was sort of butchered in popular culture, but he is a really down-to-earth Turtle.

07-13-2011, 06:49 PM	#11
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	Wow. With Nickelodeon, Don + Leo + Raph + Mike = Aang. Anyway, I agree Mikey is down to earth. What I don't agree with is that I don't really feel he was butchered for pop culture. He just changed into a Jack Black. That's how I see him. Anyway, which element fits Splinter's?

07-13-2011, 07:15 PM	#12
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	Splinter is the element of Mu 木 (wood) Besides being a wood rat, he endured all of life's struggles according to the elements stated. There were times when he was stubborn and full of anger, he has a down to earth attitude, he can make something out of nothing, and is now calm like water. So, he is like the tree that gives life to these turtles. In Ninjutsu, wood can be symbolized as the center of the elements. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming

07-13-2011, 07:20 PM	#13
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I always read that kanji character as "ki".

07-13-2011, 11:12 PM	#16
Iroh Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United States Posts: 546	It's okay. You learn more everyday. Anymore thoughts regarding my topic? __________________ https://www.youtube.com/yurushiigaming

07-13-2011, 11:28 PM	#17
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	Playmates did a line of turtles representing elements, check 'em out. Mutant Masters.

07-14-2011, 12:14 AM	#19
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Who's "heart"? Wait.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-14-2011, 12:49 AM	#20
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	Yep...balance of 4 general elements applied to all the aspects of the life (work, personalities,friendship....)... it is the western/occidental concept of Ying-Yang... In my opinion: And I had post this one before: This thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30384 Leonardo: WATER: Flexibility, adjustment, sensibility, fluency, reservation(reserve), intimacy, pity, need to link itself(himself,herself) emotionally and service. Raphael: FIRE: Vitality, passion, vehemence, energy, enthusiasm, force, honesty, radiation, abruptness, will, initiative, exaltation and restlessness. Donatello:LAND: Firmness, stability, tenacity and accumulated energy, search of the concrete thing, practicidad, patience, autodiscipline, caution, safety in the procedures and convention. Michelangelo:AIR: Freedom, ideas, looseness, change, I centre in his(her,your) mind, analysis, indifference, perspective, verbosity, curiosity, conceptualization and need to socialize. Adding: Splinter: WOOD or Metal// VOID As center in Turtles´ Life (Maybe even Heart? ) __________________ Last edited by Luzmagica; 07-14-2011 at 01:03 AM.