Are we really this bad?

**Jester** · 10-14-2011, 08:05 AM

I mean...is the fandom really this off putting?

*BubblyShell22* · 10-14-2011, 08:07 AM

No, I wouldn't say that. I think the person who made this video is just not a fan of TMNT and has decided to find fault with it in any way they can. I wouldn't be bothered by it, Jester.

**Jester** · 10-14-2011, 08:13 AM

Um...he did a series of videos comparing and contrasting the Fred Wolf characters and their 4Kids counterparts, his credentials are legit. I'm not really bummed, save for the fact that that's how we look from the outside looking in.

*Bauer536* · 10-14-2011, 08:43 AM

I kind of agree with this critic. I don't like fanfiction where they have turtles commiting suicide, raping, or doing anything inappropriate. If it's something nice like "Nothing to Fear" or the "High School Dream," I don't mind. But it's something like the MNT Gaiden that bothers me.

I think I know why some people don't like the 2k3 series. There might be some die hard Mirage TMNT fans that didn't like the adaptation 4Kids made. I mean, I love the comics, and I feel the 2k3 series fails to meet with most of the issues accurately. 2k3's City at War does not remind me of Mirage's City at War back in the 90's. Sometimes, adaptations are better left original. Sometimes, you can't adapt a comic book volume or issue to make an animated movie or show because comic book fans may find it horrible. I bet some people didn't like "Superman: Doomsday," but loved the comic issue.

Dirty Blond · 10-14-2011, 08:49 AM

Something tells me he has an account here, though!

*Slap-Happy* · 10-14-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Something tells me he has an account here, though!

Is anyone on this board really as militant as he says the people he's encountered are?

*gobo* · 10-14-2011, 09:21 AM

Someone's residing on the unsavory outskirts of the fandom. >_<

**Jester** · 10-14-2011, 09:30 AM

I know he's not a member here....or wasn't a while back when I recommended the place to him...

*gobo* · 10-14-2011, 09:37 AM

Did you misspell "a-hole"? ^_^

**Jester** · 10-14-2011, 10:07 AM

I was debating doing this, but I gotta. There is a huge difference between Turtle-cest fanfiction/art and MNT: Gaiden. That fan comic is miles above any of that garbage.

*Bauer536* · 10-14-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I was debating doing this, but I gotta. There is a huge difference between Turtle-cest fanfiction/art and MNT: Gaiden. That fan comic is miles above any of that garbage.

Then let's agree to disagree.

I guess I don't like emo and dirty material that much. TMNT swearing does not flatter me. If you like it, go ahead. I'm just hoping everything is all a dream by the end of that issue.

But enough of that: the new toon on Nick, some fans will like it, some will not. I bet there are die hard Superman fans that hated Smallville or Lois and Clark.

*pannoni1* · 10-14-2011, 10:42 AM

It just shows a lack of respect and courtesy. For instance, I enjoyed that long old TMNT vs. new TMNT comparison; it was fair and unbiased. And all people have to do on that video is to press the dislike button to prove that the video is just a poor example showing the fandom. I would prefer to have fans not only get along with one another, but also to attempt to persuade strangers why you enjoy the Turtles and why they make like them.

*plastroncafe* · 10-14-2011, 12:41 PM

HAHA! This is hilarious!
When ever someone says something along the lines of, "I have never met a person I could get along with," what they're really saying is, "I'm unpleasant to be around." The one common denominator this guys has with every turtle fan he's ever met...is him. And he's blaming fandom for that?

That's just beautiful.

I got about two minutes in and then stop. Anytime some comic geek tries to lump all women into the Fangirl Mold they've lost my attention.

Bite me, fanboy.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-14-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

I kind of agree with this critic. I don't like fanfiction where they have turtles commiting suicide, raping, or doing anything inappropriate. If it's something nice like "Nothing to Fear" or the "High School Dream," I don't mind. But it's something like the MNT Gaiden that bothers me.

I think I know why some people don't like the 2k3 series. There might be some die hard Mirage TMNT fans that didn't like the adaptation 4Kids made. I mean, I love the comics, and I feel the 2k3 series fails to meet with most of the issues accurately. 2k3's City at War does not remind me of Mirage's City at War back in the 90's. Sometimes, adaptations are better left original. Sometimes, you can't adapt a comic book volume or issue to make an animated movie or show because comic book fans may find it horrible. I bet some people didn't like "Superman: Doomsday," but loved the comic issue.

But fanfiction is work that lets the creater do waht the want with the characters.

*plastroncafe* · 10-14-2011, 01:11 PM

Basically what Bauer is saying, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, is that people shouldn't be able to play with their toys how they want to. They should only play with their toys the way other people want them to. And if they don't, they're perverts/wrong/bad.

Here, someone wrote a nice song about it:

*gobo* · 10-14-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

TMNT swearing does not flatter me.

The original creators had them swear on occasion before. Having Raph yell "damn" three times and "bitchin'" at the end of the first movie should be enough to prove that. He's said the s-woid at least a couple times in the Mirage comic.

*Redeemer* · 10-14-2011, 01:27 PM

Truthfully I am a little bothered by this. He is seriously bashing the fandom as a whole????? wow..... He is right to a point, but to make it sound as if he is the only one who is a "Normal fan" is ridiculous.... Also we "Tdrome" dont fight over tmnt really, at least to his definition. The only person that I know that doesnt want to do anything with the 2K3 or OT is Andrew and he polite and respectful about. "Correct me if I am wrong"

I hope this isnt talkn about us on the drome ecspecially.

*gobo* · 10-14-2011, 01:45 PM

I keep thinking about the fact that his reviews are spot on. However, that doesn't make up for the fact that he's a tool for acting like all fans are alike. What superhuman feature makes him exempt from his own rules? O_o

*Redeemer* · 10-14-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

What superhuman feature makes him exempt from his own rules? O_o

His super-human ego!

Lets not forget his side kick Douche bag

I jst hope he gets to meet some "normal" TMNT fans that he so desires

Stingray69 · 10-14-2011, 02:46 PM

This guy sounds like a bag of douche. I have never came arcross any hostilty between tmnt fans. If this guy want to see some fighting join a car forum and read the fights between the domestic and import car guys.

10-14-2011, 08:05 AM	#1
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Are we really this bad? I mean...is the fandom really this off putting? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-14-2011, 08:07 AM	#2
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	No, I wouldn't say that. I think the person who made this video is just not a fan of TMNT and has decided to find fault with it in any way they can. I wouldn't be bothered by it, Jester. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-14-2011, 08:13 AM	#3
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Um...he did a series of videos comparing and contrasting the Fred Wolf characters and their 4Kids counterparts, his credentials are legit. I'm not really bummed, save for the fact that that's how we look from the outside looking in. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-14-2011, 09:21 AM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Someone's residing on the unsavory outskirts of the fandom. >_< __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-14-2011, 09:30 AM	#8
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I know he's not a member here....or wasn't a while back when I recommended the place to him... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 10-14-2011 at 09:53 AM.

10-14-2011, 08:43 AM	#4
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	I kind of agree with this critic. I don't like fanfiction where they have turtles commiting suicide, raping, or doing anything inappropriate. If it's something nice like "Nothing to Fear" or the "High School Dream," I don't mind. But it's something like the MNT Gaiden that bothers me. I think I know why some people don't like the 2k3 series. There might be some die hard Mirage TMNT fans that didn't like the adaptation 4Kids made. I mean, I love the comics, and I feel the 2k3 series fails to meet with most of the issues accurately. 2k3's City at War does not remind me of Mirage's City at War back in the 90's. Sometimes, adaptations are better left original. Sometimes, you can't adapt a comic book volume or issue to make an animated movie or show because comic book fans may find it horrible. I bet some people didn't like "Superman: Doomsday," but loved the comic issue.

10-14-2011, 08:49 AM	#5
Dirty Blond Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 827	Something tells me he has an account here, though!

10-14-2011, 09:37 AM	#9
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Did you misspell "a-hole"? ^_^ __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-14-2011, 10:07 AM	#10
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I was debating doing this, but I gotta. There is a huge difference between Turtle-cest fanfiction/art and MNT: Gaiden. That fan comic is miles above any of that garbage. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-14-2011, 10:42 AM	#12
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	It just shows a lack of respect and courtesy. For instance, I enjoyed that long old TMNT vs. new TMNT comparison; it was fair and unbiased. And all people have to do on that video is to press the dislike button to prove that the video is just a poor example showing the fandom. I would prefer to have fans not only get along with one another, but also to attempt to persuade strangers why you enjoy the Turtles and why they make like them. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

10-14-2011, 01:27 PM	#17
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Truthfully I am a little bothered by this. He is seriously bashing the fandom as a whole????? wow..... He is right to a point, but to make it sound as if he is the only one who is a "Normal fan" is ridiculous.... Also we "Tdrome" dont fight over tmnt really, at least to his definition. The only person that I know that doesnt want to do anything with the 2K3 or OT is Andrew and he polite and respectful about. "Correct me if I am wrong" I hope this isnt talkn about us on the drome ecspecially. __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

10-14-2011, 01:45 PM	#18
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I keep thinking about the fact that his reviews are spot on. However, that doesn't make up for the fact that he's a tool for acting like all fans are alike. What superhuman feature makes him exempt from his own rules? O_o __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-14-2011, 02:46 PM	#20
Stingray69 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 916	This guy sounds like a bag of douche. I have never came arcross any hostilty between tmnt fans. If this guy want to see some fighting join a car forum and read the fights between the domestic and import car guys.