Most annoying plothole from the 1987's cartoon and the 80's comic: The Streetgang!

[mkmkmk]

Something that has been bothering me since first time i watched the tv-show and read the comics has been the following:
The street-gang Bebop and Rocksteady belonged to. Could clearly see that they where 'living' in the Technodrome and later got mutated as well.
One to a lizard of some kind, another one to a bat (the guy Shredder used his retro-mutagen-gun on in episode 5) and a third one to, what looks like, some kind of dog (?). Remember another episode where its chaos in the room with the dimensional port hole and you can see them locked up in a cell in the same room. Remember something similar being shown in the comics..

Who where these guys? What happen to them and where they ever involved in anything after these brief appearances? Hated not knowing as a kid and now when re-watching the episodes I feel the same, haha!

Know that their is an episode later on where this gang is involved on the streets but not with the same members.. what a ****ing stupid mistake!

Maybe they got taken out by the same chamber Baxter was going to get killed in when a fly came inside and made him transform?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/mutantsv.jpg/

[Powder]

I can't answer your question, but some of the same gang members did appear later on. Not the mutants, the regular ones.

[Jester]

I always loved how that one guy was de-matated and then showed up as a mutant again in the cage at the end of Shredder is Splintered.

[pannoni1]

Welcome to the forum, mk3! It's hardly a plothole as around 50 episodes pass between the last time we see some gang members, and I assume it to be new members in Bebop & Rocksteady's gang, and I trust many of the fanfics about the fate of the original members from Season 1. Plus, they later appear in Once Upon A Time Machine, and by that time, Shredder calling them "your old gang" is appropriate by this point. However, I think the most annoying plothole in the 1987 series are when all four turtles are falling, and seconds later, for some miraculous reason, Donatello appears aboard the turtle blimp and the other three turtles land on top of it! And, since you are new, you're probably referring to the Mirage series' Purple Dragons, and is a different animal than Bebop & Rocksteady's.

[CyberCubed]

A bigger plothole is what happened to all those ninja-themed stores owned by Shredder in the first episode? Like Ninja Pizza and Ninja shoe repair?

I always assumed those were human Foot Soldiers. Its a damn shame that disappeared so fast.

[gobo]

I'm fairly certain the street-gang shown in seasons 3 & 4 was an entirely different one, like the gang they belonged to before Shredder hired them on. Bebop recognized Jersey Red, so she obviously wasn't a new member. But, the audience had never seen her before "THE GANG'S ALL HERE".

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

A bigger plothole is what happened to all those ninja-themed stores owned by Shredder in the first episode? Like Ninja Pizza and Ninja shoe repair?

Ninja Dentist? OUCH! >_<

[ABrown]

Originally Posted by gobo

I'm fairly certain the street-gang shown in seasons 3 & 4 was an entirely different one, like the gang they belonged to before Shredder hired them on. Bebop recognized Jersey Red, so she obviously wasn't a new member. But, the audience had never seen her before "THE GANG'S ALL HERE".

I assumed that it was supposed to be the same gang. I just figured that the creators didn't reference the first couple of episodes when drawing them. I just assumed that they just drew a bunch of random street punks and didn't care whether or not they looked like the ones featured in the first couple of episodes.

[CyberCubed]

I bet the ones from the first episode were all sent into Dimension X as slave labor. :p

In Season 7's finale, we do see Krang has a slave labor camp on that asteroid the Turtles were sent to.

[oldmanwinters]

One word:

euthanasia

[Dirty Blond]

They were Shredder's foster children and were subsequently adopted away between the first and second seasons.

[Coola Yagami]

Exactly... first thing I noticed even as a kid when I first watched 'The Gang's all Here' was.... 'THOSE WEREN'T THE GUYS IN BEBOP AND ROCKSTEADY'S OLD GANG!!!' as well as the lame ninja turtle powers thing and the fact that the Turtles were somehow able to know what Mike would look like as a human teenager... but at least they cured his acne!!

[Cryomancer]

Maybe the gang is just bigger than the single groups show on either occasion.

[sdp]

Yeah it bothers me everytime I watch the OT, what bothers me more is that Shredder hints/makes it seem like he's going to use them, he mentions that "if two mutants can't do the job maybe more will" implying that he is going to attack the turtles with more mutants. Then he mentions how he hasn't perfected mutation yet indicating he is working on the perfect mutation to defeat the turtles which again does not happen. Finally we see him demutate one of the mutants, after this you can assume that he demutated them all but its not true since you see them in the last episode again all of them mutated, which means the demutation gun was temporary. here is the earlier thread about it:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=18551
the worst part is I would have rather have them than some of the generic mad scientists we got later on in season 2 and 3.

As far as all the ninja places, I guess maybe all that area of the city was destroyed because of the building collapse/debris/flooding? He just decided to go with robotic foot soldiers instead of having to re-train all his lost human ones.

[lethrhd]

since were talking about old discarded plot threads what about the fact that master splinter proved he was the one true leader of the foot clan by showing the ghost of their founder the "kur-lee" maneuver. Was he really the foot clans leader? I thought he was just a devoted disciple before shredder sabotaged him in the flash back from ep1.
In a similar vain, remember how splinter had/has proof that hes the foots leader in the scrapbook that zachs older brother steals? They retrieve it at the end of the epsiode but its never mentioned again or y they never did anything about it other than seal it away in a scrapbook, especially considering how corrupt shredder made the organization.
It just goes to show the turtles were never proactive, they always had shredder/krang make the first move, they were always on defense

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by lethrhd

since were talking about old discarded plot threads what about the fact that master splinter proved he was the one true leader of the foot clan by showing the ghost of their founder the "kur-lee" maneuver. Was he really the foot clans leader? I thought he was just a devoted disciple before shredder sabotaged him in the flash back from ep1.
In a similar vain, remember how splinter had/has proof that hes the foots leader in the scrapbook that zachs older brother steals? They retrieve it at the end of the epsiode but its never mentioned again or y they never did anything about it other than seal it away in a scrapbook, especially considering how corrupt shredder made the organization.
It just goes to show the turtles were never proactive, they always had shredder/krang make the first move, they were always on defense

Not to mention Shredder actually cared/was worried about the proof... whatever it was... Considering the Foot Clan didn't even exist anymore, besides a bunch of robots and... I guess Bebop and Rocksteady...? and why DON'T they use it to re-instate Splinter as the true leader.... 'like, we can do that, but like.. nawww'.