Metal Gear Solid High-definition Collection

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-02-2011, 10:50 AM

Woo!

Anyone else excited for this awesome deal? Metal Gear Solid 3 has been my favorite game ever since the first time I played it!

Coming in on November 8th, is the best metal gear collection ever released.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

All in high-definition and at 60 frames per second.

So please don't tell me I'm the only one here who can't wait to finally add this to my collection!

By the way, what are your thoughts on Peace Walker? I'm a little hesitant that it won't have the same cinematic, high energy feel that it's console counterparts have.

Peanut · 11-02-2011, 12:34 PM

I'll probably end up getting this for my bday, but I don't know how much I'll end up playing. MGS3 I could probably pull off, but MGS2 is stupid and terrible post-Tanker. I've never played Peace Walker, because the PSP MG games control look absolute sh*t, but I'll give it a chance in this collection.

Mostly, I just want Metal Gear 360 achievements.

*Candy Kappa* · 11-02-2011, 01:56 PM

I'm gonna get it. my PS3 is not backward compatible nor do I have a PS2 or a PSP

*Spitfire* · 11-02-2011, 02:16 PM

This set would make more sense if it had Twin Snakes on it instead of some crappy PSP game. Why wouldn't you put the original trilogy of games on here together?

*Candy Kappa* · 11-02-2011, 02:32 PM

Twin Snakes is horrible, rather have the Original PSX version

*Spitfire* · 11-02-2011, 02:58 PM

How was Twin Snakes at all horrible? It's the exact same game with the added features of the sequel, and updated graphics. I played the crap out of the PSX version so the only downfall of Twin Snakes for me was it wasn't different enough to keep me from getting bored. Not a fault of the game if anything a testament to the fact they recreated it quite well.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-02-2011, 03:08 PM

I wouldn't write Peace Walker off as a "crappy psp game".

A lot of folks seem to enjoy it as much, if not more, than than the rest of the series. I for one, have yet to give it a try.

Regarding Twin Snakes, a lot of people dislike the fantastical/ridiculous cut scenes, of Snake dodging missles and such. Still, if I were to revisit either the original or Twin Snakes, I'd probably go with Twin Snakes, myself.

*Candy Kappa* · 11-02-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

How was Twin Snakes at all horrible? It's the exact same game with the added features of the sequel, and updated graphics. I played the crap out of the PSX version so the only downfall of Twin Snakes for me was it wasn't different enough to keep me from getting bored. Not a fault of the game if anything a testament to the fact they recreated it quite well.

the game is horrendous. The voice acting alone is a snooze-fest, they all sound so bored and uninteresting. It sucks all mood out of the game, even Cam Clarke can't save it.

*Spitfire* · 11-02-2011, 04:30 PM

I don't hold video games to high voice acting standards. They're normally very poor to begin with. If your major criticism with the video game has nothing to do with the actual gameplay itself then I'd say it's not a very strong one. I'll agree the cut scenes were ridiculous but he was doing ridiculous things in the other games as well so it made sense. They just wanted to pump the action up as they now could with the better technology available. It honestly gave me a reason to watch the cut scenes at all since I'd seen them so many times before.

Rat A Tat · 11-02-2011, 04:40 PM

The hate for Twin Snakes stems from several reasons:

1) Adding the MGS2 game mechanics while keeping level layouts the same as the PSX version makes the game insanely easy.

2) Regardless of your opinion on video game voice acting in general, the voice acting in the PSX version of MGS1 was solid and, for it's time, set a new standard in what video game voice acting could be. Some feel TTS lost some of the magic the PSX version had.

3) The over-the-top action cutscenes such as the infamous jumping off of a missile.

TTS isn't included in this collection because Nintendo owns the rights. The PSX version isn't included because it's already in the PSN store (though in Japan the HD collection includes a voucher to download MGS1 on the PSN store for free).

Peace Walker is an excellent game that will no doubt be even better on the PS3.

*Spitfire* · 11-02-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat A Tat

Adding the MGS2 game mechanics while keeping level layouts the same as the PSX version makes the game insanely easy.

Sure but they tried to balance it by making the enemy AI much smarter and able to communicate with each other instead of just standing around like idiots. The game was doomed to seem easy to anyone who played the original a lot because even with these new features we'd played it so many times they'd have to add a super insane difficultly setting to really challenge us.

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2) Regardless of your opinion on video game voice acting in general, the voice acting in the PSX version of MGS1 was solid and, for it's time, set a new standard in what video game voice acting could be. Some feel TTS lost some of the magic the PSX version had.

All the same VAs except Grey Fox is played by Rob Paulsen, kind of funny really.

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3) The over-the-top action cutscenes such as the infamous jumping off of a missile.

They hired an over the top Japanese action movie director to do all the cut scenes. It's honestly no worse then a guy who can talk to bees or use photosynthesis to stay still for long periods of time.

All in all the game is fine. Fans seem to be the only ones who complain about it, and fans complain about everything. It was received rather positively by critics so most of these issues aren't with the game it's with the fans not accepting the minor changes.

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TTS isn't included in this collection because Nintendo owns the rights. The PSX version isn't included because it's already in the PSN store (though in Japan the HD collection includes a voucher to download MGS1 on the PSN store for free).

It's tricky. I've read conflicting things about it. Even if Nintendo owned the rights to the game Konami could easily buy it back. Nintendo won't be profiting off it anymore. That's cool a DL code is included kind of sucks for non-PS3 owners though.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-02-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat A Tat

Peace Walker is an excellent game that will no doubt be even better on the PS3.

How would you compare it to the other games in the series?

I understand that is has the added elements of collecting, upgrading, and strategizing, but does it still have the immersive atmosphere present in the other games? Does the action reach the heights of Metal Gear solid 1-4?

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-16-2011, 02:10 PM

Just beat Metal Gear Solid 2 for the first time in three years. Once again, I am reminded just how brilliant Kojima games can be. Sure it has faults, such as a few mediocre boss battles and a muddled, sometimes hard to follow plot, but overall I think it's a brilliant, brilliant game.

Now onto Metal Gear Solid 3.....

Hermano Dyvas · 01-29-2012, 05:13 PM

I really miss the original metal gear solid on this box set. Why didn't they include it?

~~Leo656~~ · 01-29-2012, 08:24 PM

Simple answer: So in a year they can sell you Metal Gear Solid 1 and the Portable Ops games as "Metal Gear Solid Origins HD Collection", duh. No seriously, that's the entire reason why.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-30-2012, 03:38 AM

and we'd still buy it...

Is MSG on PSN?

~~AquaParade~~ · 01-30-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

and we'd still buy it...

Is MSG on PSN?

Assuming you mean Metal Gear Solid, yeah it is. $10, I believe. I've been meaning to pick it up.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-30-2012, 07:32 PM

Damn right we will. I'd even like it if both MGS and Twin Snakes were included, since they had some differences. I get why some people weren't thrilled with Twin Snakes but I personally loved it, "ridiculous" moments and all. It's a video game, embrace the fact that you can't see/do sh*t like that in real life. I loved the updated cinemas, voice acting was hit or miss but it had been so long since I'd played MGS I didn't notice much.

I gotta do a MGS marathon week one'a these days now that I have 4. I don't have any of the handheld games, though.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-30-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Assuming you mean Metal Gear Solid, yeah it is. $10, I believe. I've been meaning to pick it up.

no no no, I meant the Metal Solid Gear game

That typo flew right over my head

Peanut · 01-30-2012, 08:00 PM

They dropped a collection on PS2 that included MGS a while before 4 hit. Glad I picked that up, because it puts Metal Gear Solid in a PS2 case with some really nice artwork.

11-02-2011, 10:50 AM	#1
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Metal Gear Solid High-definition Collection Woo! Anyone else excited for this awesome deal? Metal Gear Solid 3 has been my favorite game ever since the first time I played it! Coming in on November 8th, is the best metal gear collection ever released. Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker All in high-definition and at 60 frames per second. So please don't tell me I'm the only one here who can't wait to finally add this to my collection! By the way, what are your thoughts on Peace Walker? I'm a little hesitant that it won't have the same cinematic, high energy feel that it's console counterparts have.

11-02-2011, 01:56 PM	#3
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I'm gonna get it. my PS3 is not backward compatible nor do I have a PS2 or a PSP __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

11-02-2011, 02:16 PM	#4
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	This set would make more sense if it had Twin Snakes on it instead of some crappy PSP game. Why wouldn't you put the original trilogy of games on here together? __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-02-2011, 02:32 PM	#5
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Twin Snakes is horrible, rather have the Original PSX version __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

11-02-2011, 02:58 PM	#6
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	How was Twin Snakes at all horrible? It's the exact same game with the added features of the sequel, and updated graphics. I played the crap out of the PSX version so the only downfall of Twin Snakes for me was it wasn't different enough to keep me from getting bored. Not a fault of the game if anything a testament to the fact they recreated it quite well. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-02-2011, 12:34 PM	#2
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I'll probably end up getting this for my bday, but I don't know how much I'll end up playing. MGS3 I could probably pull off, but MGS2 is stupid and terrible post-Tanker. I've never played Peace Walker, because the PSP MG games control look absolute sh*t, but I'll give it a chance in this collection. Mostly, I just want Metal Gear 360 achievements.

11-02-2011, 03:08 PM	#7
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I wouldn't write Peace Walker off as a "crappy psp game". A lot of folks seem to enjoy it as much, if not more, than than the rest of the series. I for one, have yet to give it a try. Regarding Twin Snakes, a lot of people dislike the fantastical/ridiculous cut scenes, of Snake dodging missles and such. Still, if I were to revisit either the original or Twin Snakes, I'd probably go with Twin Snakes, myself.

11-02-2011, 04:30 PM	#9
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I don't hold video games to high voice acting standards. They're normally very poor to begin with. If your major criticism with the video game has nothing to do with the actual gameplay itself then I'd say it's not a very strong one. I'll agree the cut scenes were ridiculous but he was doing ridiculous things in the other games as well so it made sense. They just wanted to pump the action up as they now could with the better technology available. It honestly gave me a reason to watch the cut scenes at all since I'd seen them so many times before. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-02-2011, 04:40 PM	#10
Rat A Tat Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 184	The hate for Twin Snakes stems from several reasons: 1) Adding the MGS2 game mechanics while keeping level layouts the same as the PSX version makes the game insanely easy. 2) Regardless of your opinion on video game voice acting in general, the voice acting in the PSX version of MGS1 was solid and, for it's time, set a new standard in what video game voice acting could be. Some feel TTS lost some of the magic the PSX version had. 3) The over-the-top action cutscenes such as the infamous jumping off of a missile. TTS isn't included in this collection because Nintendo owns the rights. The PSX version isn't included because it's already in the PSN store (though in Japan the HD collection includes a voucher to download MGS1 on the PSN store for free). Peace Walker is an excellent game that will no doubt be even better on the PS3. __________________ Possess the right thinking. Only then can one receive the gifts of strength, knowledge and peace.

11-16-2011, 02:10 PM	#13
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Just beat Metal Gear Solid 2 for the first time in three years. Once again, I am reminded just how brilliant Kojima games can be. Sure it has faults, such as a few mediocre boss battles and a muddled, sometimes hard to follow plot, but overall I think it's a brilliant, brilliant game. Now onto Metal Gear Solid 3.....

01-29-2012, 05:13 PM	#14
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	I really miss the original metal gear solid on this box set. Why didn't they include it?

01-29-2012, 08:24 PM	#15
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Simple answer: So in a year they can sell you Metal Gear Solid 1 and the Portable Ops games as "Metal Gear Solid Origins HD Collection", duh. No seriously, that's the entire reason why.

01-30-2012, 03:38 AM	#16
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	and we'd still buy it... Is MSG on PSN? __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-30-2012, 07:32 PM	#18
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Damn right we will. I'd even like it if both MGS and Twin Snakes were included, since they had some differences. I get why some people weren't thrilled with Twin Snakes but I personally loved it, "ridiculous" moments and all. It's a video game, embrace the fact that you can't see/do sh*t like that in real life. I loved the updated cinemas, voice acting was hit or miss but it had been so long since I'd played MGS I didn't notice much. I gotta do a MGS marathon week one'a these days now that I have 4. I don't have any of the handheld games, though.

01-30-2012, 08:00 PM	#20
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	They dropped a collection on PS2 that included MGS a while before 4 hit. Glad I picked that up, because it puts Metal Gear Solid in a PS2 case with some really nice artwork.