Which TMNT universe had the best ending?

*CyberCubed* · 12-20-2011, 09:00 PM

Of the four TMNT universes that are essentially "over" at this point, which one do you think had the best ending?

I am excluding Mirage since Volume 4 has been left open ended and I don't feel like that universe is finished yet. IDW just started and the Nick one hasn't begun yet.

Which series had the best conclusion?

stormbringer · 12-20-2011, 09:09 PM

2k3 series (I'm counting turtles forever), it had a multiverse adventure with them meeting the OT turtles, and the mirage turtles while battling their archenemy.

*Donnie* · 12-20-2011, 09:28 PM

I would say the 2k3 had the best ending. Probably because of Turtles Forever, as noted above.

SherlockJr · 12-20-2011, 09:45 PM

I'm going to parrot everyone else's sentiments and say 2k3, mainly due to Turtles Forever. It was an excellent ending, and had a sort of "full circle" feeling.

*gobo* · 12-20-2011, 09:46 PM

Fred Wolf and 4KIDS were the only two that got that got suitable conclusions. Of course, I think that 4KIDS' was a million times more suitable. But, The Next Mutation's end still makes me happiest. Not the last episode or anything, but the fact that it was unexpectedly cancelled. That makes me giddy.

*CyberCubed* · 12-20-2011, 11:31 PM

The Archie series had a suitable conclusion as well.

The only real loose end was Null by the end of the series. But given in his last appearance it was revealed he was the devil and he says, "I can't die," when Donatello attacks him, I just assume we're led to believe he'll always be there and immortal.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 12-20-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie

I would say the 2k3 had the best ending. Probably because of Turtles Forever, as noted above.

Yeah I'd agree

Konchadunga · 12-21-2011, 12:01 AM

I wasn't aware that the movie universe really ended. The last two movies were basically just Big-Lipped-Alligator Moments; nothing feels like a finale, and the next one is going to be a prequel.

*Powder* · 12-21-2011, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Konchadunga

the next one is going to be a prequel.

Says who, exactly?

*CyberCubed* · 12-21-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Konchadunga

I wasn't aware that the movie universe really ended. The last two movies were basically just Big-Lipped-Alligator Moments; nothing feels like a finale, and the next one is going to be a prequel.

Movie 3 had no loose ends and just kind of ended with the TMNT dancing.

TMNT 4 hinted at a possible Shredder return, but even then it was satisfactory enough for a final movie, since Imagi never did make another one.

Konchadunga · 12-21-2011, 02:30 AM

Not for me. It's better than Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III, of course, but it's still just a fight against a one-off villain who really doesn't have anything to do with the series as a whole. If they wanted a satisfying ending, the second film should have been the last. As it stands now, an adaptation of City at War seems like a possible ending, as Karai said in the last movie that she had issues with the turtles to be resolved later. Seeing the hatchet finally buried with the Foot would be a satisfying enough conclusion.

AK_Mikey_Fan · 12-21-2011, 03:13 AM

I agree with everyone and say the 2003 series as well. Turtles Forever definitely wrapped everything up.

Metropoliskid41 · 12-21-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AK_Mikey_Fan

I agree with everyone and say the 2003 series as well. Turtles Forever definitely wrapped everything up.

Yep exactly, Turtles Forever not only was a nice cap on that series but also a nice conclusion to the first 25 years of the Turtleverse. It was nice to see the Mirage, old toon, and 2k3 series crossover.

Hermano Dyvas · 12-21-2011, 12:08 PM

Turtles forever was the best finale ever and technically it was 2k3's, so yeah.
Except for the movieverse though all of them have loose ends.

OT: Baxter stockman, okay you could argue he's trapped in limbo forever but I always felt he deserved to turn human again, his last ending was not unlike any other ending of his episodes.

Archie: How could they cancel forever war, it's just not right!

2K3: They stopped fast forward too abruptly, probably due to fan demand, I felt we ended up with something far worse. Fast forward was decent enough and actually got really really good the later part of the season. The turtles just left Cody to be killed by Darius. We also never got to see the redemption of the dark turtles, truly sad. I would've rather seen this all wrapped up instead of having the btts season.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 12-21-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermano Dyvas

Turtles forever was the best finale ever and technically it was 2k3's, so yeah.
Except for the movieverse though all of them have loose ends.

OT: Baxter stockman, okay you could argue he's trapped in limbo forever but I always felt he deserved to turn human again, his last ending was not unlike any other ending of his episodes.

Archie: How could they cancel forever war, it's just not right!

2K3: They stopped fast forward too abruptly, probably due to fan demand, I felt we ended up with something far worse. Fast forward was decent enough and actually got really really good the later part of the season. The turtles just left Cody to be killed by Darius. We also never got to see the redemption of the dark turtles, truly sad. I would've rather seen this all wrapped up instead of having the btts season.

Is Turtles Forever really counted as official?.

Hermano Dyvas · 12-21-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

Is Turtles Forever really counted as official?.

Of course, why wouldn't it be?

*gobo* · 12-21-2011, 12:43 PM

The OT had a weak, tacked-on sense of finality with Splinter graduating The Turtles from his students to his equals. But, it was obviously intended to be the series finale. That's not the question though. Which had the best ending? Not the best finale...

*pannoni1* · 12-21-2011, 12:56 PM

I consider the Mirage era to be finished, but if that run consisted of just Vol. 1 plus the micro-series, I'd say it's ending is second only to 4kids. Even if you count the ending of 4kids as "Wedding Bells and Bytes", it still would be the best (though not by much), by virtue of some cameo of earlier characters and having the two closest friends to the turtles finally tie the knot after building their relationships since episode 4 or 5. Then of course came Turtles Forever and the rest is history.

However, final episode/issue doesn't HAVE to be the real climax and still be the best series by some. In the OT case, that climax runs from the final Season 7 episode up through Season 8 (minus the HAVOC/Krakus episodes possibly), as the Technodrome appears to have lost its threat for good in Turtle Trek following a City at War-esque story arc. It's just that it was a secondary, lesser climax for the final OT episode.

I just don't consider the movieverse to be complete as long as talks for a sequel suffice, but for what the live action films are, a pretty disappointing ending that would have worked better as a prequel to the other two.

Archie just ran into a dead end, so the last issue just felt like a standard episodic ending to a story, so it can't compete with the Vol. 1 and 4kids endings.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-21-2011, 01:13 PM

It would be nice for the Archie Comics to get its intended ending. We had it tangling in front of us and then it was yanked away again.

If IDW is wise and there are no copyright issues or agreements need to be made outside of the creative team we need to get the intended five part "Forever War" out. If it is ever published that would be the best ending while due to the technicality of its incompletion the 2003 series gets the best ending award.

*CyberCubed* · 12-21-2011, 01:30 PM

Year of the Turtle wrapped up the Shredder. I don't know why people are sitting there waiting on the Forever War, when if it comes out now it'll likely be completely rewritten from whatever was intended back in 1995.

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12-20-2011, 09:00 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Which TMNT universe had the best ending? Of the four TMNT universes that are essentially "over" at this point, which one do you think had the best ending? I am excluding Mirage since Volume 4 has been left open ended and I don't feel like that universe is finished yet. IDW just started and the Nick one hasn't begun yet. Which series had the best conclusion?

12-20-2011, 09:45 PM	#4
SherlockJr Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The nearest Starbucks Posts: 216	I'm going to parrot everyone else's sentiments and say 2k3, mainly due to Turtles Forever. It was an excellent ending, and had a sort of "full circle" feeling. __________________ "SQUIRREL!!!"

12-20-2011, 09:46 PM	#5
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Fred Wolf and 4KIDS were the only two that got that got suitable conclusions. Of course, I think that 4KIDS' was a million times more suitable. But, The Next Mutation's end still makes me happiest. Not the last episode or anything, but the fact that it was unexpectedly cancelled. That makes me giddy. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-21-2011, 12:43 PM	#17
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	The OT had a weak, tacked-on sense of finality with Splinter graduating The Turtles from his students to his equals. But, it was obviously intended to be the series finale. That's not the question though. Which had the best ending? Not the best finale... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-20-2011, 09:09 PM	#2
stormbringer Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 112	2k3 series (I'm counting turtles forever), it had a multiverse adventure with them meeting the OT turtles, and the mirage turtles while battling their archenemy.

12-20-2011, 09:28 PM	#3
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	I would say the 2k3 had the best ending. Probably because of Turtles Forever, as noted above.

12-20-2011, 11:31 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	The Archie series had a suitable conclusion as well. The only real loose end was Null by the end of the series. But given in his last appearance it was revealed he was the devil and he says, "I can't die," when Donatello attacks him, I just assume we're led to believe he'll always be there and immortal.

12-21-2011, 12:01 AM	#8
Konchadunga Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 912	I wasn't aware that the movie universe really ended. The last two movies were basically just Big-Lipped-Alligator Moments; nothing feels like a finale, and the next one is going to be a prequel.

12-21-2011, 02:30 AM	#11
Konchadunga Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 912	Not for me. It's better than Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III, of course, but it's still just a fight against a one-off villain who really doesn't have anything to do with the series as a whole. If they wanted a satisfying ending, the second film should have been the last. As it stands now, an adaptation of City at War seems like a possible ending, as Karai said in the last movie that she had issues with the turtles to be resolved later. Seeing the hatchet finally buried with the Foot would be a satisfying enough conclusion.

12-21-2011, 03:13 AM	#12
AK_Mikey_Fan Thug Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 73	I agree with everyone and say the 2003 series as well. Turtles Forever definitely wrapped everything up.

12-21-2011, 12:08 PM	#14
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	Turtles forever was the best finale ever and technically it was 2k3's, so yeah. Except for the movieverse though all of them have loose ends. OT: Baxter stockman, okay you could argue he's trapped in limbo forever but I always felt he deserved to turn human again, his last ending was not unlike any other ending of his episodes. Archie: How could they cancel forever war, it's just not right! 2K3: They stopped fast forward too abruptly, probably due to fan demand, I felt we ended up with something far worse. Fast forward was decent enough and actually got really really good the later part of the season. The turtles just left Cody to be killed by Darius. We also never got to see the redemption of the dark turtles, truly sad. I would've rather seen this all wrapped up instead of having the btts season.

12-21-2011, 12:56 PM	#18
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I consider the Mirage era to be finished, but if that run consisted of just Vol. 1 plus the micro-series, I'd say it's ending is second only to 4kids. Even if you count the ending of 4kids as "Wedding Bells and Bytes", it still would be the best (though not by much), by virtue of some cameo of earlier characters and having the two closest friends to the turtles finally tie the knot after building their relationships since episode 4 or 5. Then of course came Turtles Forever and the rest is history. However, final episode/issue doesn't HAVE to be the real climax and still be the best series by some. In the OT case, that climax runs from the final Season 7 episode up through Season 8 (minus the HAVOC/Krakus episodes possibly), as the Technodrome appears to have lost its threat for good in Turtle Trek following a City at War-esque story arc. It's just that it was a secondary, lesser climax for the final OT episode. I just don't consider the movieverse to be complete as long as talks for a sequel suffice, but for what the live action films are, a pretty disappointing ending that would have worked better as a prequel to the other two. Archie just ran into a dead end, so the last issue just felt like a standard episodic ending to a story, so it can't compete with the Vol. 1 and 4kids endings. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

12-21-2011, 01:13 PM	#19
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	It would be nice for the Archie Comics to get its intended ending. We had it tangling in front of us and then it was yanked away again. If IDW is wise and there are no copyright issues or agreements need to be made outside of the creative team we need to get the intended five part "Forever War" out. If it is ever published that would be the best ending while due to the technicality of its incompletion the 2003 series gets the best ending award. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-21-2011, 01:30 PM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Year of the Turtle wrapped up the Shredder. I don't know why people are sitting there waiting on the Forever War, when if it comes out now it'll likely be completely rewritten from whatever was intended back in 1995.