What is your favorite non-Shredder CBS episode from Season 4?

*pannoni1* · 12-26-2011, 11:20 AM

This can be interesting as there are clearly some more episodes than others here, given that many of these are found on the Sewer Heroes series tapes, and some episodes spawned characters with an appearance in a future episode.

*Powder* · 12-26-2011, 11:44 AM

My vote went to Unidentified Flying Leonardo. Being that the man in blue is my favorite turtle, episodes centering around him rule.
I give a nod to Rebel Without A Fin, though.

*ToTheNines* · 12-26-2011, 11:52 AM

Leonardo Lightens Up. No contest.

cryan · 12-26-2011, 01:08 PM

Raphael Meets His Match,because of you know who.She still drives me crazy

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-26-2011, 05:55 PM

This is a tough one,pannoni! You took out "Splinter Vanishes" which is my favorite non-Shredder/Krang episode of the season and one of my top five easily.

I am not sure of the choices here between "Raphael Meets His Match" and "Leonardo Versus Tempestra". Both of those were a good mix of goofy and serious.

*pannoni1* · 12-26-2011, 07:06 PM

I voted for Leonardo vs. Tempestra, as it is that ultimate mix from goofy to serious, even leading up to the final battle. I find that roller coaster ride in the news van amusing. Overall though all of the Leonardo episodes are good. The Raphael episodes are pretty good, but the Donatello episodes are a bit weak and the Michelangelo episodes are just too silly for their own good. The "April" episode Rebel Without A Fin is a bit silly to say the least that's almost purely based on having a good plan in order to turn April back to normal.

As I explained in my previous poll, I did not include Splinter vanishes as it has two important villains: Leatherhead and Rat King which did meet with Shredder at some point in the series (it's sort of the follow-up to Leatherhead meets the Rat King).

*Icebot* · 12-26-2011, 07:07 PM

My favorite is Raphael Drives Em Wild. That other cab driver who turned into Raphael and had an attitude about other drivers entertained me a lot.

My second favorite is Leonardo Lightens Up.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-26-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

I voted for Leonardo vs. Tempestra, as it is that ultimate mix from goofy to serious, even leading up to the final battle. I find that roller coaster ride in the news van amusing. Overall though all of the Leonardo episodes are good. The Raphael episodes are pretty good, but the Donatello episodes are a bit weak and the Michelangelo episodes are just too silly for their own good. The "April" episode Rebel Without A Fin is a bit silly to say the least that's almost purely based on having a good plan in order to turn April back to normal.

As I explained in my previous poll, I did not include Splinter vanishes as it has two important villains: Leatherhead and Rat King which did meet with Shredder at some point in the series (it's sort of the follow-up to Leatherhead meets the Rat King).

Yeah, I know you did. Its just if Shredder and gang are not in it I want to have Rat King,Leatherhead, Slash, or Big Louie in it opposed to a mad scientist or gangster that isn't BL. So "Splinter Vanishes" is my favorite for the above reasoning the two I mentiond are what I think is the perfect TMNT formula with or without Shredder and gang and that is a great blend of humor and serious. in "Leonardo Versus Tempestra" how to make a video game obession and the data bit come to life wrecking havoc and the other turtles come to the rescue in a metal ball of a sub work and be serious at the same time? Nicel done!Same goes for how great Mona Lisa is written and the pirate hijacking along with silly unexplained creatures under the pirate and the cheesy nods to Donald Trump. TMNT at its finest!

Perhaps I should bump up threads for these two episodes if there is not already one.

themaxonline · 12-26-2011, 11:08 PM

Most of these I don't care too much for. But one of my favourites from the season overall was What's Michaelangelo Good For. I believe I made, or responded to, a topic for that episode awhile back explaining why I liked that one. I thought it broke away from the usual idea that Michaelangelo wasn't really a contributing part of the team and it made him seem more genuine and responsible and helpful. Plus, having a friend and showing some non-surfer personality helped too.

Donatello's Degree I like as well and Unidentified Flying Leonardo.

Rebel Without A Fin is probably my least favourite episode of the entire series though. It's so slow going, very dull and it feels like it drags on. Donatello Stops Time is guilty of these as well but I enjoy the scene near the end when the turtles are going through the sewers following Donatello's arrows.

*CyberCubed* · 12-26-2011, 11:11 PM

A lot of these episodes are actually quite good. Tempestra was a great villain, I loved the Mona Lisa episode, and Leonardo Lighten's Up was hilarious.

AK_Mikey_Fan · 12-26-2011, 11:36 PM

Michelangelo Meets Bugman, definitely. It has always been one of my favs and plus, it stars my fav party turtle!

Hilly · 02-19-2012, 04:49 PM

I picked What's Michelangelo Good For because he had a great conection with Pete and the vet. Althought my brother would have picked the shinking episode because of the ending where that cute kitten jumped into Michelangelo's arms

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-19-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Leonardo Lightens Up. No contest.

Leonardo Lightens Up. I love the plot (yeah, let's terrorize the town with loud music, let the people escape town and we go rob every rank).

Foot Soldier Clang · 02-19-2012, 06:36 PM

Raphael Meets his Match & Leonardo Versus Tempestra are both great episodes (the Tempestra one had great animation), but sake of my own sentimentality towards the character, I chose the one with Mona Lisa. I thought for sure she would return at some point, but sadly she never did. We did get a great figure of her though. Now if only they made a figure of Tempestra

cryan · 02-19-2012, 07:10 PM

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Michelangelo Meets Bugman, definitely. It has always been one of my favs and plus, it stars my fav party turtle!

Accaully the thing about the Bugman Episode it was an homage(or rippoff)of the Incredible Hulk.I think it was written pretty well.Brick Bradley gets mutated in some lad accident.The only way he transforms into Bugman is he gets angry.Sound familar.That was an interesting episode.

*Sage Ninja* · 02-20-2012, 01:58 AM

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Most of these I don't care too much for. But one of my favourites from the season overall was What's Michaelangelo Good For. I believe I made, or responded to, a topic for that episode awhile back explaining why I liked that one. I thought it broke away from the usual idea that Michaelangelo wasn't really a contributing part of the team and it made him seem more genuine and responsible and helpful. Plus, having a friend and showing some non-surfer personality helped too.

this right here sums it up for me. I also voted for this episode.

**Jester** · 02-20-2012, 02:05 AM

Raphael Knocks 'Em Dead, if only because of all the ridiculously bad Turtle puns.

*ssjup81* · 02-20-2012, 02:12 AM

It would be a tie between Leonardo vs Tempestra, Donatello's Degree, Raphael Meets his Match, and What's Michelangelo Good For? for me. Out of the four, though, I went with Raphael Meets his Match. I loved the character of Mona Lisa and wished she would've appeared more than just one episode. She had a lot of potential, imo.

Edit: I decided to explain what I liked about all of these eps.

Leonardo vs Tempestra: Tempestra was a really interesting villain, and it was nice to see the guys being "teens", ya know? Kids play video games and it was nice because the serious one of the group was the one to get addicted to a game. I like how creative the plot was for the ep and how Leonardo had to defeat Tempestra. Leonardo Lightens Up I actually never cared for because I found Leo more obnoxious as opposed to amusing for the ep, and I still don't know why they didn't have Mikey challenge Leo to the skateboard contest for that ep, as opposed to Splinter (though funny how he did beat him). Well, at least Cam had fun doing it, since I hear he's a comical guy and rarely ever had the opportunity to convey that given Leo's character.

Donatello's Degree: I actually found the ep amusing and I loved the interactions between Donny and Irma (no, not in a romantic sense people). I thought it was nice (and interesting) that he went to Irma of all people to help him. It was nice seeing how hard Donny worked to get his degree. I also liked those two geeks who hulked up when they had to fight. lol I liked Vern's slight flirting with April too. Only part I didn't like for the most part was the fact that the other three ended up near the university by the sewers...but I can ignore that.

Raphael Meets His Match: It's obvious what I liked about this ep. Two words: Mona Lisa. She was such a great character! I'm sure she could've been used very well, even in a "non romantic" sense as I just liked the fact that Raph had someone just as sarcastic and dry-witted as him. It was also nice that Raph could hang out in the open without having to wear a costume.

What's Michelangelo Good For?: I love this ep a lot. I'd actually would say this is probably my favorite ep focusing around Michelangelo. I like the fact that they showed his side that's very good with animals. I like the fact that they gave him the role of saving his pals and that he is capable of doing so and that he wasn't the younger one that you can't take seriously. I never realized how much he seemed to be treated like that, until going back to the series. This ep shows otherwise.

Avatar Yuffie · 02-20-2012, 05:23 AM

Raphael meets His Match. Yes, I also love Mona Lisa. Rob Paulsen's Raph and her character really really hit it off, complete with sarcasm. The only downside is the villain of that episode is really boring.

Runner up is Leonardo vs Tempestra (this is one of the few episodes Leo was forced solo with only April backing him up). Donatello's Degree deserves mention because his interaction with Irma (to the point of his annoyance) is hilarious.

cryan · 02-20-2012, 07:44 AM

About Captain Flitch.Yeah,very lame villain.though,I thought the sea creature army he used were pretty cool.would have loved Playmates to have made those guys.I would have loved to see Mona Lisa take on the Foot if she was going to return.

View Poll Results: Of all the episodes from the first CBS season with no Shredder, which is your fav?
Raphael Knocks 'em Dead	1	4.76%
Raphael Meets His Match	4	19.05%
Leonardo Lightens Up	2	9.52%
Funny, They Shrunk Michelangelo	1	4.76%
Donatello Makes Time	1	4.76%
Rebel Without A Fin	1	4.76%
Michelangelo Meets Bugman	1	4.76%
What's Michelangelo Good For?	4	19.05%
Donatello's Degree	0	0%
Leonardo Versus Tempestra	4	19.05%
Raphael Drives 'em Wild	1	4.76%
Beyond the Donatello Nebula	0	0%
Unidentified Flying Leonardo	1	4.76%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

12-26-2011, 11:20 AM	#1
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	What is your favorite non-Shredder CBS episode from Season 4? This can be interesting as there are clearly some more episodes than others here, given that many of these are found on the Sewer Heroes series tapes, and some episodes spawned characters with an appearance in a future episode. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

12-26-2011, 01:08 PM	#4
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	Raphael Meets His Match,because of you know who.She still drives me crazy Last edited by cryan; 12-26-2011 at 06:21 PM.

12-26-2011, 05:55 PM	#5
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	This is a tough one,pannoni! You took out "Splinter Vanishes" which is my favorite non-Shredder/Krang episode of the season and one of my top five easily. I am not sure of the choices here between "Raphael Meets His Match" and "Leonardo Versus Tempestra". Both of those were a good mix of goofy and serious. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-26-2011, 07:06 PM	#6
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I voted for Leonardo vs. Tempestra, as it is that ultimate mix from goofy to serious, even leading up to the final battle. I find that roller coaster ride in the news van amusing. Overall though all of the Leonardo episodes are good. The Raphael episodes are pretty good, but the Donatello episodes are a bit weak and the Michelangelo episodes are just too silly for their own good. The "April" episode Rebel Without A Fin is a bit silly to say the least that's almost purely based on having a good plan in order to turn April back to normal. As I explained in my previous poll, I did not include Splinter vanishes as it has two important villains: Leatherhead and Rat King which did meet with Shredder at some point in the series (it's sort of the follow-up to Leatherhead meets the Rat King). __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

12-26-2011, 11:44 AM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	My vote went to Unidentified Flying Leonardo. Being that the man in blue is my favorite turtle, episodes centering around him rule. I give a nod to Rebel Without A Fin, though.

12-26-2011, 11:52 AM	#3
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	Leonardo Lightens Up. No contest.

12-26-2011, 07:07 PM	#7
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	My favorite is Raphael Drives Em Wild. That other cab driver who turned into Raphael and had an attitude about other drivers entertained me a lot. My second favorite is Leonardo Lightens Up.

12-26-2011, 11:08 PM	#9
themaxonline Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 278	Most of these I don't care too much for. But one of my favourites from the season overall was What's Michaelangelo Good For. I believe I made, or responded to, a topic for that episode awhile back explaining why I liked that one. I thought it broke away from the usual idea that Michaelangelo wasn't really a contributing part of the team and it made him seem more genuine and responsible and helpful. Plus, having a friend and showing some non-surfer personality helped too. Donatello's Degree I like as well and Unidentified Flying Leonardo. Rebel Without A Fin is probably my least favourite episode of the entire series though. It's so slow going, very dull and it feels like it drags on. Donatello Stops Time is guilty of these as well but I enjoy the scene near the end when the turtles are going through the sewers following Donatello's arrows.

12-26-2011, 11:11 PM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	A lot of these episodes are actually quite good. Tempestra was a great villain, I loved the Mona Lisa episode, and Leonardo Lighten's Up was hilarious.

12-26-2011, 11:36 PM	#11
AK_Mikey_Fan Thug Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 73	Michelangelo Meets Bugman, definitely. It has always been one of my favs and plus, it stars my fav party turtle!

02-19-2012, 04:49 PM	#12
Hilly Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Naples,Fl Posts: 18	I picked What's Michelangelo Good For because he had a great conection with Pete and the vet. Althought my brother would have picked the shinking episode because of the ending where that cute kitten jumped into Michelangelo's arms

02-19-2012, 06:36 PM	#14
Foot Soldier Clang Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Big Apple, 3am Posts: 456	Raphael Meets his Match & Leonardo Versus Tempestra are both great episodes (the Tempestra one had great animation), but sake of my own sentimentality towards the character, I chose the one with Mona Lisa. I thought for sure she would return at some point, but sadly she never did. We did get a great figure of her though. Now if only they made a figure of Tempestra __________________ My Collection

02-20-2012, 02:05 AM	#17
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Raphael Knocks 'Em Dead, if only because of all the ridiculously bad Turtle puns. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-20-2012, 02:12 AM	#18
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	It would be a tie between Leonardo vs Tempestra, Donatello's Degree, Raphael Meets his Match, and What's Michelangelo Good For? for me. Out of the four, though, I went with Raphael Meets his Match. I loved the character of Mona Lisa and wished she would've appeared more than just one episode. She had a lot of potential, imo. Edit: I decided to explain what I liked about all of these eps. Leonardo vs Tempestra: Tempestra was a really interesting villain, and it was nice to see the guys being "teens", ya know? Kids play video games and it was nice because the serious one of the group was the one to get addicted to a game. I like how creative the plot was for the ep and how Leonardo had to defeat Tempestra. Leonardo Lightens Up I actually never cared for because I found Leo more obnoxious as opposed to amusing for the ep, and I still don't know why they didn't have Mikey challenge Leo to the skateboard contest for that ep, as opposed to Splinter (though funny how he did beat him). Well, at least Cam had fun doing it, since I hear he's a comical guy and rarely ever had the opportunity to convey that given Leo's character. Donatello's Degree: I actually found the ep amusing and I loved the interactions between Donny and Irma (no, not in a romantic sense people). I thought it was nice (and interesting) that he went to Irma of all people to help him. It was nice seeing how hard Donny worked to get his degree. I also liked those two geeks who hulked up when they had to fight. lol I liked Vern's slight flirting with April too. Only part I didn't like for the most part was the fact that the other three ended up near the university by the sewers...but I can ignore that. Raphael Meets His Match: It's obvious what I liked about this ep. Two words: Mona Lisa. She was such a great character! I'm sure she could've been used very well, even in a "non romantic" sense as I just liked the fact that Raph had someone just as sarcastic and dry-witted as him. It was also nice that Raph could hang out in the open without having to wear a costume. What's Michelangelo Good For?: I love this ep a lot. I'd actually would say this is probably my favorite ep focusing around Michelangelo. I like the fact that they showed his side that's very good with animals. I like the fact that they gave him the role of saving his pals and that he is capable of doing so and that he wasn't the younger one that you can't take seriously. I never realized how much he seemed to be treated like that, until going back to the series. This ep shows otherwise. Last edited by ssjup81; 02-20-2012 at 02:43 AM.

02-20-2012, 05:23 AM	#19
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Raphael meets His Match. Yes, I also love Mona Lisa. Rob Paulsen's Raph and her character really really hit it off, complete with sarcasm. The only downside is the villain of that episode is really boring. Runner up is Leonardo vs Tempestra (this is one of the few episodes Leo was forced solo with only April backing him up). Donatello's Degree deserves mention because his interaction with Irma (to the point of his annoyance) is hilarious. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

02-20-2012, 07:44 AM	#20
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	About Captain Flitch.Yeah,very lame villain.though,I thought the sea creature army he used were pretty cool.would have loved Playmates to have made those guys.I would have loved to see Mona Lisa take on the Foot if she was going to return. Last edited by cryan; 02-20-2012 at 10:13 AM.