What's with not connecting shell to plastron?

*Donnie* · 01-15-2012, 09:54 PM

Why do artists and many figure molds (such as the high-esteemed Playmates and Sideshow statues) not connect the shells to the plastrons? Okay, I guess for artists it's artistic interpretation. But why not connect them? Why do you think Sideshow and Playmates didn't connect them? It's unrealistic. (The retort of "but they are mutated turtles, that isn't realistic is not accepted).

*oldmanwinters* · 01-15-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie

(The retort of "but they are mutated turtles, that isn't realistic is not accepted).

Well, there goes my explanation.

*Cure* · 01-15-2012, 10:25 PM

They're turtles in a half shell. It's in the song.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-15-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie

(The retort of "but they are mutated turtles

Otherwise known as Crisler's Law.

**Jester** · 01-15-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

They're turtles in a half shell. It's in the song.

Raphael: Hah! We laugh in the face of danger!
Donatello: Yeah, we're heroes in the half shell, remember the theme song?

*Powder* · 01-16-2012, 12:08 AM

They were designed that way for free movement.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-16-2012, 04:48 AM

I guess it's to give the turtles less hindering movements or something, but I think in most versions of the TMNT the plastron and the carapace have some flexibility to it. But if it is intentional or not...

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 01-16-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Otherwise known as Crisler's Law.

Or "let's not take a cartoon too seriously".

*Donnie* · 01-16-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Or "let's not take a cartoon too seriously".

...is TMNT not an important part of your life? I don't get these kind of comments. Coming back at someone that wants a sort of realism with their TMNT with "they're mutant turtles! C'mon!" is a cop-out.

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Originally Posted by Powder

They were designed that way for free movement.

Free movement for the Sideshow & Playmates statues? I can understand this for the Neca figures, but the statues (the more I look at them) look very odd with that exposed green flesh where the shell & plastron should connect.

Dragnskull · 01-16-2012, 11:00 AM

I have not looked at this detail on my sideshow statues when i had them open, and for that I am grateful.

I hope i forge this thread by the time I open them again.

Toby Barrett · 01-16-2012, 11:00 AM

I don't believe Eastman or Laird ever connected the shell and plastron in their art either, did they? Just the shell and plastron with the head, arms, and legs jutting out. XD

*oldmanwinters* · 01-16-2012, 11:13 AM

I'll be honest, I try not to take the Ninja Turtles too seriously. It just makes me a happier fan-boy.

*Donnie* · 01-16-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

I don't believe Eastman or Laird ever connected the shell and plastron in their art either, did they? Just the shell and plastron with the head, arms, and legs jutting out. XD

You're right they aren't overtly connected, they're just blacked out. They are drawn very close together though, they're not overtly not connected either, if you know what I mean. That's different than clearly showing green flesh there.

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I'll be honest, I try not to take the Ninja Turtles too seriously. It just makes me a happier fan-boy.

That's cool, I just meant saying that response is sorta a cop-out when trying to have a discussion about something concerning the Turtles and realism.

Logan · 01-16-2012, 04:07 PM

Don't their arms kind of keep the plastron from connecting anyway?

LEOTMNT · 01-18-2012, 12:07 AM

They connect under the arm to just above the thigh. Normally. Sometimes.

The NECA bobbleheads have no connection, and as a matter of fact the belt is actually pretty cheesy because it's just filled in green from the outside edge of the belt to the torso.

Actually they do have a connection but there very vauge, And the belt is still ugly to me.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-18-2012, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Don't their arms kind of keep the plastron from connecting anyway?

what? Have you seen a turtle?

Spoiler:

The Plastron and Carapace is connected in the sides, it's a part of their ribs

*Sage Ninja* · 01-18-2012, 02:09 PM

I'm pretty sure the shells connected in the 2k3 series. It looked kinda like the turtles were wearing plastron panties. It was funny.

*Samhain* · 01-18-2012, 06:36 PM

Yeah, I always hated that. I really like the way Dan Duncan draws the turtles. When they connect the plastron to the shell they look more like turtles rather than naked, green turtloids wearing a shell and plastron. It just looks weird to me.

Dragnskull · 01-18-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Samhain

Yeah, I always hated that. I really like the way Dan Duncan draws the turtles. When they connect the plastron to the shell they look more like turtles rather than naked, green turtloids wearing a shell and plastron. It just looks weird to me.

reference pic?

*Donnie* · 01-18-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Samhain

Yeah, I always hated that. I really like the way Dan Duncan draws the turtles. When they connect the plastron to the shell they look more like turtles rather than naked, green turtloids wearing a shell and plastron. It just looks weird to me.

Totally! Dan does quality work connecting that plastron to shell!

01-15-2012, 09:54 PM	#1
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	What's with not connecting shell to plastron? Why do artists and many figure molds (such as the high-esteemed Playmates and Sideshow statues) not connect the shells to the plastrons? Okay, I guess for artists it's artistic interpretation. But why not connect them? Why do you think Sideshow and Playmates didn't connect them? It's unrealistic. (The retort of "but they are mutated turtles, that isn't realistic is not accepted).

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Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	They were designed that way for free movement.

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Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	I don't believe Eastman or Laird ever connected the shell and plastron in their art either, did they? Just the shell and plastron with the head, arms, and legs jutting out. XD

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LEOTMNT Thug Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: upstate Posts: 91	They connect under the arm to just above the thigh. Normally. Sometimes. The NECA bobbleheads have no connection, and as a matter of fact the belt is actually pretty cheesy because it's just filled in green from the outside edge of the belt to the torso. Actually they do have a connection but there very vauge, And the belt is still ugly to me. __________________ T-U-R-T-L-E POWER

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Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	I'm pretty sure the shells connected in the 2k3 series. It looked kinda like the turtles were wearing plastron panties. It was funny. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

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Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Yeah, I always hated that. I really like the way Dan Duncan draws the turtles. When they connect the plastron to the shell they look more like turtles rather than naked, green turtloids wearing a shell and plastron. It just looks weird to me.