Why the hate for garbageman

Hermano Dyvas · 02-10-2012, 03:59 PM

I'm not a big fan of garbageman or something, but I don't get the hate so many fans seem to have for him. Granted he is pretty unrealistic establishing a garbage empire and then an underwater empire, but it's not like I felt the episodes he was in were terrible. They were still entertaining when I first watched 'em.

*gobo* · 02-10-2012, 04:12 PM

He was just a lame villain. Honestly, I saw him as the equivalent to that Batman: TAS guy who had the family of runaways in the sewer or whatever.

Avatar Yuffie · 02-10-2012, 04:26 PM

He's just that... scrappy?

He's lame, the story where he's the main villain is boring, and... well, he's lame.

**Jester** · 02-10-2012, 04:30 PM

For the tone of the series he seemed...off. Part of me wonders if he was a back-handed "homage" to the Fred Wolf series.

*Icebot* · 02-10-2012, 05:55 PM

He probably would have been liked more if Nightmares Recycled wasn't cancelled. Wasn't that episode supposed to be about his origin with Hun?

*Redeemer* · 02-10-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebot

He probably would have been liked more if Nightmares Recycled wasn't cancelled. Wasn't that episode supposed to be about his origin with Hun?

They were suppose to do a origin episode, but I dont know the name of the ep.
There was a thread about Laird blog and production notes.
The ep seemed really graphic and in all honesty might have gotten shelved like insane to the membrane.

**Jester** · 02-10-2012, 07:49 PM

Yeah, all Redeemer just said is about Nightmare Recycled.

~~ABrown~~ · 02-10-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Honestly, I saw him as the equivalent to that Batman: TAS guy who had the family of runaways in the sewer or whatever.

Really? Cause I saw his story being very similar to the Batman:TAS episode where a bunch of homeless people are kidnapped and forced to do hard labor for some fat slob.

Personally, I found the garbageman's episodes to be very boring. Fortunately there was only a couple of them. However, I think that the third one might've been kinda interesting since it would've involved Hun. How ironic that Hun was (at least to me) a very interesting character,and the garbageman (who was going to be revealed to be Hun's twin) was (again, at least to me) a very boring character.

*Powder* · 02-10-2012, 09:06 PM

He really was just straight up lame, man. Bad design, bad motives, just not good at all.

*ToTheNines* · 02-10-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

He was just a lame villain. Honestly, I saw him as the equivalent to that Batman: TAS guy who had the family of runaways in the sewer or whatever.

Really? Plot seemed more like it was ripped off from "The Forgotten" rather than "The Underdwellers".

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Originally Posted by Jester

For the tone of the series he seemed...off. Part of me wonders if he was a back-handed "homage" to the Fred Wolf series.

I don't know about backhanded. I thought his first episode was an outstanding homage to the OT. It had a cheesy villain, the turtles interacting with humans, "surfing" on impossible objects, trenchcoats/fedoras, and what I'm pretty sure was the series' first full on "cowabunga".

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Originally Posted by Powder

He really was just straight up lame, man. Bad design, bad motives, just not good at all.

Bad motives is right, for sure. I mean, yeah he's getting slave labor out of the homeless guys... but he's got to be paying those armed guards quite well. And for that matter, how much money could he possibly be making running a garbage dump? Aren't all garbage collection companies at least partially city or county operated?

Uki · 02-10-2012, 09:17 PM

He wasn't great, but I liked him okay. I'm not going to be clamoring for IDW or Nick to revisit him though...

FearlessLeader · 02-10-2012, 09:41 PM

He just was not an interesting character, who I probably wouldn't have minded as much had he not gotten a second episode that I was forced to sit through

There were just so many other possibilities for story lines they could have done that it felt like a complete waste literally for them to have two with him.

*Redeemer* · 02-10-2012, 10:58 PM

I actually like that ep bc of Mikey. Mikey is jst awesome

Logan · 02-10-2012, 11:01 PM

The fact that the turtles themselves laugh at the absurdity of the character says enough to me. I don't care for the episode.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-11-2012, 02:52 AM

He was at lest better than a lof of strange monsters in the 2003 show.

*Luzmagica* · 02-11-2012, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

For the tone of the series he seemed...off. ........

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Originally Posted by Uki

He wasn't great, but I liked him okay. I'm not going to be clamoring for IDW or Nick to revisit him though...

Agree, He was poor as character-villain (Is it meaning of

lame? :?

) ...I dont hate the character tho.

*BubblyShell22* · 02-11-2012, 07:11 AM

He was awful. I hated him and thought the episodes he had were boring. Maybe "Nightmares Recycled" could've redeemed him in some way, but as for the two eps he was in, I didn't like them.

*pannoni1* · 02-11-2012, 07:34 AM

Simply put, Garbageman is just watching some garbage! I would have changed the script to make it more educationally friendly, such as destroying all of the recycled matter that upsets citizens, but I think that they came up with the name because of how similar it sounds to "Shredder". After trash goes through a shredder, it is garbage. And the Garbageman episodes simply seem like plot material that are Shredder's leftovers: in other words, garbage.

*CyberCubed* · 02-11-2012, 09:03 AM

The first Garbageman episode was actually fairly decent.

The one in Season 2 was horrible and one of the worst episodes of the first 5 seasons.

*ToTheNines* · 02-11-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The one in Season 2 was horrible and one of the worst episodes of the first 5 seasons.

Really? It's not even in my "top 5 worst" of season 2.

02-10-2012, 03:59 PM	#1
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	Why the hate for garbageman I'm not a big fan of garbageman or something, but I don't get the hate so many fans seem to have for him. Granted he is pretty unrealistic establishing a garbage empire and then an underwater empire, but it's not like I felt the episodes he was in were terrible. They were still entertaining when I first watched 'em.

02-10-2012, 04:12 PM	#2
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	He was just a lame villain. Honestly, I saw him as the equivalent to that Batman: TAS guy who had the family of runaways in the sewer or whatever. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

02-10-2012, 04:26 PM	#3
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	He's just that... scrappy? He's lame, the story where he's the main villain is boring, and... well, he's lame. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

02-10-2012, 04:30 PM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	For the tone of the series he seemed...off. Part of me wonders if he was a back-handed "homage" to the Fred Wolf series. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-10-2012, 07:49 PM	#7
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	Yeah, all Redeemer just said is about Nightmare Recycled. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-10-2012, 05:55 PM	#5
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	He probably would have been liked more if Nightmares Recycled wasn't cancelled. Wasn't that episode supposed to be about his origin with Hun?

02-10-2012, 09:06 PM	#9
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	He really was just straight up lame, man. Bad design, bad motives, just not good at all.

02-10-2012, 09:17 PM	#11
Uki Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Woodlands, Tx Posts: 337	He wasn't great, but I liked him okay. I'm not going to be clamoring for IDW or Nick to revisit him though... __________________ -Proud Member of the Turtle Whacks!

02-10-2012, 09:41 PM	#12
FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	He just was not an interesting character, who I probably wouldn't have minded as much had he not gotten a second episode that I was forced to sit through There were just so many other possibilities for story lines they could have done that it felt like a complete waste literally for them to have two with him. __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

02-10-2012, 10:58 PM	#13
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	I actually like that ep bc of Mikey. Mikey is jst awesome __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

02-10-2012, 11:01 PM	#14
Logan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 483	The fact that the turtles themselves laugh at the absurdity of the character says enough to me. I don't care for the episode. __________________ We're a team; and as a team let's go kick some ass! -Leonardo Logan the Layman Critic, a youtube channel for movie reviews and animation appreciation. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn...xrKPml1WlYh6Mw

02-11-2012, 02:52 AM	#15
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,480	Monsters He was at lest better than a lof of strange monsters in the 2003 show.

02-11-2012, 07:11 AM	#17
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	He was awful. I hated him and thought the episodes he had were boring. Maybe "Nightmares Recycled" could've redeemed him in some way, but as for the two eps he was in, I didn't like them. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

02-11-2012, 07:34 AM	#18
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Simply put, Garbageman is just watching some garbage! I would have changed the script to make it more educationally friendly, such as destroying all of the recycled matter that upsets citizens, but I think that they came up with the name because of how similar it sounds to "Shredder". After trash goes through a shredder, it is garbage. And the Garbageman episodes simply seem like plot material that are Shredder's leftovers: in other words, garbage. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

02-11-2012, 09:03 AM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,805	The first Garbageman episode was actually fairly decent. The one in Season 2 was horrible and one of the worst episodes of the first 5 seasons.