Toning for issues 33 and 43

*Plasticplayhouse* · 02-14-2012, 11:57 AM

I just realized that out of all 62 issues in vol one, 33 and 43 are the only two issues NOT done using duoshade. 33 was the lone colored issue done by Richard Corben and 43 was the second issue by A. C. Farley (he used duoshade on the first issue). The color issue I see why he didn’t use duoshade, but I'm curious to why Farley didn’t use it on his last book.

duoshade gave black and white comics an amazing grittiness. with duoshade being gone with the wind now, i guess if someone wanted to capture a similar feeling/look they would probably have to do various shades of grey with copic markers. although Farley did a good job achieving a similar level of grittieness in Hall's of Lost Legends just by using his cross hatching and such.

*Samhain* · 02-14-2012, 03:21 PM

There is a Photshop App that lets you mimick the duoshade effects on the computer. It's not quite the same but it's close enough.

Abnormal Freak · 02-14-2012, 11:47 PM

I've always liked that that Farley issue doesn't have tones; I think they would have cluttered up the artwork.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-15-2012, 12:26 AM

I'll find out about Farley... was wondering that myself but I've always forgotten to ask.

About the Corben issue, Corben does one style: Corben style. And that doesn't involve duotones.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-15-2012, 11:29 AM

A.C. Farley:

I only duo-shaded my first book to match the other Mirage books. I took the finished book, without shading, to show Pete and Kevin. It was drawn on the duo-shade paper, so it could be shaded. Kevin said it didn't need it, and that they wanted to send it to the printer the next day. However, I still wanted my book to 'fit', you know? The Mirage look. So I took the whole, finished book home and laid all the pages all over my studio. On the floor, and any flat surface available. Everything was covered in comics. Then I started at one spot and went all around the room with the light shader. Then next, I started over and went all around the room with the dark shader. It took all night. So the next morning I showed up with all the pages shaded and ready to go. I was so pleased at the reaction. They didn't expect me back the next day with that book all shaded. I love to do things like that.

I didn't shade the second book because I didn't think it would help the art. I worked so hard on the drawing, I didn't want to cover it up with that mechanical hatching. I hate the lettering in the #43. I should have done it myself.

-Craig

*Plasticplayhouse* · 02-18-2012, 11:41 AM

ahh...

with all the cross hatching i figured someone felt it didnt need it. it truely does fit the mirage style even without the duoshade. actually it took me a couple years to even catch that it wasnt duoshaded, lol.

its funny he hated the way mary kelleher lettered the book. honestly, i dont see what's wrong with the lettering. however, i do like his lettering in #29 better though.

thanks ANDB for asking him that.

02-14-2012, 11:57 AM	#1
Plasticplayhouse the gray ghost Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North East Posts: 2,194	Toning for issues 33 and 43 I just realized that out of all 62 issues in vol one, 33 and 43 are the only two issues NOT done using duoshade. 33 was the lone colored issue done by Richard Corben and 43 was the second issue by A. C. Farley (he used duoshade on the first issue). The color issue I see why he didn’t use duoshade, but I'm curious to why Farley didn’t use it on his last book. duoshade gave black and white comics an amazing grittiness. with duoshade being gone with the wind now, i guess if someone wanted to capture a similar feeling/look they would probably have to do various shades of grey with copic markers. although Farley did a good job achieving a similar level of grittieness in Hall's of Lost Legends just by using his cross hatching and such. __________________ Want to see more of my custom figures? http://plasticplayhouse.deviantart.com/

02-14-2012, 11:47 PM	#3
Abnormal Freak Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: MN Posts: 779	I've always liked that that Farley issue doesn't have tones; I think they would have cluttered up the artwork. __________________

02-15-2012, 11:29 AM	#5
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,404	A.C. Farley: I only duo-shaded my first book to match the other Mirage books. I took the finished book, without shading, to show Pete and Kevin. It was drawn on the duo-shade paper, so it could be shaded. Kevin said it didn't need it, and that they wanted to send it to the printer the next day. However, I still wanted my book to 'fit', you know? The Mirage look. So I took the whole, finished book home and laid all the pages all over my studio. On the floor, and any flat surface available. Everything was covered in comics. Then I started at one spot and went all around the room with the light shader. Then next, I started over and went all around the room with the dark shader. It took all night. So the next morning I showed up with all the pages shaded and ready to go. I was so pleased at the reaction. They didn't expect me back the next day with that book all shaded. I love to do things like that. I didn't shade the second book because I didn't think it would help the art. I worked so hard on the drawing, I didn't want to cover it up with that mechanical hatching. I hate the lettering in the #43. I should have done it myself. -Craig __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-18-2012, 11:41 AM	#6
Plasticplayhouse the gray ghost Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North East Posts: 2,194	ahh... with all the cross hatching i figured someone felt it didnt need it. it truely does fit the mirage style even without the duoshade. actually it took me a couple years to even catch that it wasnt duoshaded, lol. its funny he hated the way mary kelleher lettered the book. honestly, i dont see what's wrong with the lettering. however, i do like his lettering in #29 better though. thanks ANDB for asking him that. __________________ Want to see more of my custom figures? http://plasticplayhouse.deviantart.com/

02-14-2012, 03:21 PM	#2
Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	There is a Photshop App that lets you mimick the duoshade effects on the computer. It's not quite the same but it's close enough.

02-15-2012, 12:26 AM	#4
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,404	I'll find out about Farley... was wondering that myself but I've always forgotten to ask. About the Corben issue, Corben does one style: Corben style. And that doesn't involve duotones. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]