Over/under on Shredder debut

*pannoni1* · 03-30-2012, 11:34 AM

Similar to the mousers thread, now we'll look at when you think we'll see the first appearance of the Shredder. Appearing in the very first episode of TOS and not until the tenth episode of the 4kids series, I will set it at 5 for this series. Also, we need a full Shredder appearance (not simply Oroku Saki).

*ToTheNines* · 03-30-2012, 11:35 AM

Second episode. Maybe the last scene of the first one.

*CyberCubed* · 03-30-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

Similar to the mousers thread, now we'll look at when you think we'll see the first appearance of the Shredder. Appearing in the very first episode of TOS and not until the tenth episode of the 4kids series, I will set it at 5 for this series.

Shredder appeared in the first episode it didn't matter that he didn't have his armor on in the 4kids series.

*Powder* · 03-30-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Second episode. Maybe the last scene of the first one.

This, no doubt.

Uki · 03-30-2012, 09:28 PM

Sooner than later, I'd bet.

*Oculus Orbus* · 03-31-2012, 05:06 PM

Under. First or second episode, I'd say.

Killer Moth · 04-03-2012, 03:47 PM

TOS? We're going by Star Trek standards now? Heh. Fine by me.

It depends on the plot structure. The 87 series had a five part episodic pilot, whereas, the 2003 series was a serial one, and the latter's writing could go in many directions. To hedge my bet, I'll say Nicktoon Shredder will show up either the second or third episode into the series, mainly as it usually takes to the second or third episode to fully establish the Big Bad in most cartoon series. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean he couldn't have a quick cameo in the first episode, either.

Another question: Are we also counting when Shredder first clashes against the Turtles in a physical confrontation? Because that tends to happen later in Turtle media, as well (87 Shredder didn't do it until episode 3 with Mike and 2003 Shredder didn't do it until much, much later).

*MikeandRaph87* · 04-03-2012, 06:47 PM

Putting the shredder armor on took 10 episodes in the 2003 cartoon. I remember waiting to hit episode 10. I would hope the second episode the Ninja Turtles would meet thier greatest enemy.

Memphis · 04-05-2012, 07:09 AM

I liked them slowly building up to him wearing the armor. If Saki can be as charismatic and intimidating as he was in the 2k3 series without armor then I'm in no hurry to see him in armor. I actually prefered him without it in the 2k3 series, bummed he never actually fought without it like he did in the first 2k3 game and he was way harder than with armor.

I always though his armor in the 2k3 series was too much. (covered head to toe) I'm looking forward to this series' Shredder as Cyber Shredder from Tournament Fighters is my favorite look of Shredder so far, and this version isn't too far from it.

*Drose18* · 04-08-2012, 06:27 AM

International movie database says he is in episode 1.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2035319/

*Xav* · 04-09-2012, 09:54 AM

It also says the first episode aired on March 31 2012.

*MikeandRaph87* · 04-09-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I liked them slowly building up to him wearing the armor. If Saki can be as charismatic and intimidating as he was in the 2k3 series without armor then I'm in no hurry to see him in armor. I actually prefered him without it in the 2k3 series, bummed he never actually fought without it like he did in the first 2k3 game and he was way harder than with armor.

I always though his armor in the 2k3 series was too much. (covered head to toe) I'm looking forward to this series' Shredder as Cyber Shredder from Tournament Fighters is my favorite look of Shredder so far, and this version isn't too far from it.

I would have liked the brow to half the nose shown.I don't care if he has gloves or nor not but part his face should be seen.

He did fight out of the shredder armor once in Exodus Part 1.Splinter and the turtles minus Don engaged him in his penthouse. The fight saw part of his arm and face rip off to show the utrom exoskelteon.

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-09-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Second episode. Maybe the last scene of the first one.

I was thinking the same thing. It's most likely we'll see Saki as Shredder early than the 4kids show.

TurtleMaster4 · 04-09-2012, 11:17 AM

well considering there was a picture of him at toy fair, i'd say he'll be in the first episode

Shredder_Fan · 04-09-2012, 12:11 PM

I dont like how The Shredder looks
about his armor and stuff

His face/eyes looks like a old men
and his blades on his armor are to bigg

its a 100% fail.
In the 2003 serie's his armor looks GREAT
lets keep it like that.

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-09-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shredder_Fan

I dont like how The Shredder looks
about his armor and stuff

His face/eyes looks like a old men
and his blades on his armor are to bigg

its a 100% fail.
In the 2003 serie's his armor looks GREAT
lets keep it like that.

We haven't even seen him in action yet, lets just wait. He looks alright and his bio sounds good. How can you say his face doesn't look good when we have only seen his eyes? I like his long blades in this show, this way he can keep the Turtles and Splinter at bay when ever they fight.

*ToTheNines* · 04-09-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shredder_Fan

I dont like how The Shredder looks
about his armor and stuff

His face/eyes looks like a old men
and his blades on his armor are to bigg

its a 100% fail.
In the 2003 serie's his armor looks GREAT
lets keep it like that.

Was this supposed to be some sort of poem?

Lampy · 04-11-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

We haven't even seen him in action yet, lets just wait. He looks alright and his bio sounds good. How can you say his face doesn't look good when we have only seen his eyes? I like his long blades in this show, this way he can keep the Turtles and Splinter at bay when ever they fight.

I agree on the armor bit. I hate his new look. It looks too much. I prefer a Shredder with simple armor. It makes him look more menacing... the less armor, the better. Shows how badass of a ninja he is.
But i'll disagree with you on the 100% part. I'm watching this show whether or not Shredder looks like a can-opener or not. We'll just have to wait and see.

Lampy · 04-11-2012, 01:30 AM

Oh... I'd prefer to see him sooner rather than later. It's a Nick show... they're gna have a villain in the first episode.

Shredder_Fan · 04-11-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

We haven't even seen him in action yet, lets just wait. He looks alright and his bio sounds good. How can you say his face doesn't look good when we have only seen his eyes? I like his long blades in this show, this way he can keep the Turtles and Splinter at bay when ever they fight.

Well I have seen some video's on YouTube and stuff
and well if I see his eye's it looks like a old man.
And his armor its a NO NO......

The old Shredder I know from the 80's cartoon is cool
The Shredder from the 2003 cartoon is damn cool
and when I see pic's of this new Shredder and toy.
It's a 100% NO to his armor.
But I will see the TMNT when it's on TV

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03-30-2012, 11:34 AM	#1
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Over/under on Shredder debut Similar to the mousers thread, now we'll look at when you think we'll see the first appearance of the Shredder. Appearing in the very first episode of TOS and not until the tenth episode of the 4kids series, I will set it at 5 for this series. Also, we need a full Shredder appearance (not simply Oroku Saki). __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power! Last edited by pannoni1; 03-30-2012 at 11:50 AM.

03-30-2012, 09:28 PM	#5
Uki Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Woodlands, Tx Posts: 337	Sooner than later, I'd bet. __________________ -Proud Member of the Turtle Whacks!

04-03-2012, 06:47 PM	#8
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,185	Putting the shredder armor on took 10 episodes in the 2003 cartoon. I remember waiting to hit episode 10. I would hope the second episode the Ninja Turtles would meet thier greatest enemy. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

04-05-2012, 07:09 AM	#9
Memphis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 581	I liked them slowly building up to him wearing the armor. If Saki can be as charismatic and intimidating as he was in the 2k3 series without armor then I'm in no hurry to see him in armor. I actually prefered him without it in the 2k3 series, bummed he never actually fought without it like he did in the first 2k3 game and he was way harder than with armor. I always though his armor in the 2k3 series was too much. (covered head to toe) I'm looking forward to this series' Shredder as Cyber Shredder from Tournament Fighters is my favorite look of Shredder so far, and this version isn't too far from it. __________________ I am a rock, not just another grain of sand. Looking for MOC Dino figures. PM me if you're selling! Already have Ankyl Leo

03-30-2012, 11:35 AM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,163	Second episode. Maybe the last scene of the first one.

03-31-2012, 05:06 PM	#6
Oculus Orbus Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 1,535	Under. First or second episode, I'd say.

04-03-2012, 03:47 PM	#7
Killer Moth Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 384	TOS? We're going by Star Trek standards now? Heh. Fine by me. It depends on the plot structure. The 87 series had a five part episodic pilot, whereas, the 2003 series was a serial one, and the latter's writing could go in many directions. To hedge my bet, I'll say Nicktoon Shredder will show up either the second or third episode into the series, mainly as it usually takes to the second or third episode to fully establish the Big Bad in most cartoon series. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean he couldn't have a quick cameo in the first episode, either. Another question: Are we also counting when Shredder first clashes against the Turtles in a physical confrontation? Because that tends to happen later in Turtle media, as well (87 Shredder didn't do it until episode 3 with Mike and 2003 Shredder didn't do it until much, much later).

04-08-2012, 06:27 AM	#10
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	International movie database says he is in episode 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2035319/

04-09-2012, 09:54 AM	#11
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,037	It also says the first episode aired on March 31 2012.

04-09-2012, 11:17 AM	#14
TurtleMaster4 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Some where in the Sewers of New York! Posts: 390	well considering there was a picture of him at toy fair, i'd say he'll be in the first episode

04-09-2012, 12:11 PM	#15
Shredder_Fan Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Technodrome (Dimension X) Posts: 172	The Shredder I dont like how The Shredder looks about his armor and stuff His face/eyes looks like a old men and his blades on his armor are to bigg its a 100% fail. In the 2003 serie's his armor looks GREAT lets keep it like that.

04-11-2012, 01:30 AM	#19
Lampy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 748	Oh... I'd prefer to see him sooner rather than later. It's a Nick show... they're gna have a villain in the first episode.