Question to IDW: could IDW use the Mutanimals?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 04-07-2012, 10:29 AM

Hey, I was wondering, since IDW now has the TMNT lisensce, would the ever consider bringing back the mighty Mutanimals in some form? It's been so long since we've seen these guys, and 'd love to see them ethier as allies of the Turtles, or in thier own spin-off book. I know that many people feel that too many mutants ruin the turtles/make them feel less special, but when you have tons of anthro aliens running around, that whole concept makes the specialness on the TMNT go straight out the window.

My roster, taken from the turtles' allied mutants, would be:

1.) Ray Fillet
2.) Mondo Gecko
3.) Wingnut/Screwloose
4.) Mona lisa
5.) Ninjara (or Aeoplex)
6.) Ace Duck

They could come from all those mutating animals we saw in the Cages in the Raph microseries issue. What does everybody else think?

Killer Moth · 04-07-2012, 01:04 PM

Since they are using Krang/Bebop/Rocksteady, anything is possible. Once the Krang/Neutrino arc gets fully swinging, Wingnut/Screwloose probably wouldn't feel as out of place, providing IDW goes with the Archie characterization and backstory. Since Krang in this version is coming off as a real SOB, it wouldn't be difficult at all to see him or his troops commit genocide on Huanu. As for the others, I personally have no problems with the other Mutanimals showing up, if introduced and written properly (and, most importantly, not overused).

And if so, they should wait until after the Krang/Baxter arc and possibly after this "Ninja War" that has been alluded and foreshadowed about. Having so many mutant animals running around so early -- besides the Turtles, there's currently Hob, Apolex and eventually Bebop/Rocksteady --, could be rather jarring.

While we're at it, someone should make a matching thread with the Mirage superheroes (e.g., Nobody, Metalhead) as the same argument also applies to them. Thus, re-sparking the always fun "mutant animals in other TMNT media vs. superheroes in Mirage" debate, etc.

*CyberCubed* · 04-07-2012, 01:41 PM

Its possible. I doubt we'll ever see Ninjara though because Alopex is too similar a character.

And Ace Duck is an alien, not a mutant.

*Raph's Girl* · 04-07-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its possible. I doubt we'll ever see Ninjara though because Alopex is too similar a character.

And Ace Duck is an alien, not a mutant.

Wingnut and Screwloose are aliens too. And Ninjara wasn't a mutant either.

*CyberCubed* · 04-07-2012, 02:22 PM

But Ace Duck was never associated with the Mutanimals.

Likewise I always saw merdude an as unofficial member. Napoleon and Mona Lisa joining would be fine.

*MikeandRaph87* · 04-07-2012, 02:36 PM

I was never a fan of them. Leatherhead was the only one I liked and he was a good human opposed to an evi mutant gator. Despite that I never got why they were killed off. Yeah, I know ot was poor sales,but just make them either disband or just appear once every several storylines.

Shaking up the turtles allies alligence with different members may work. It depends on who is in it and if the storyline makes sense for it to happen. I want to see other mutants but to take time for each story element already in play to develop before Leatherhead or Slash or any good or bad mutant returns. I want to see Krang's background fleshed out. At this point I am more interested in that than the "war" Shredder is involved in.

Killer Moth · 04-07-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its possible. I doubt we'll ever see Ninjara though because Alopex is too similar a character.

And Ace Duck is an alien, not a mutant.

I agree about Alopex taking Ninjara's place, but didn't Ace Duck's toy bio implied he was accidentially mutated by Krang? The only media where Ace Duck had characterization, yes, had him as alien, but it isn't fixed, either. After all, look at Leatherhead and how many altered origins he's had. Or as TMNT Entity rightly opined about Wingnut and his various versions, "Wingnut's anything you want him to be."

Anyway, I'm with mikeandraph, as "I'm in the mood with aliens and ninjas, so other mutants not named Hob/Alopex/Bebop/Rocksteady and possibly Leatherhead can wait."

I'd love to see Mona Lisa again, but it would get past Eastman? Hmm...

*CyberCubed* · 04-07-2012, 04:17 PM

I thought the Mutanimals were decent characters but the fact that they're mostly remembered that they all died says a lot.

ctt4lfecw · 04-07-2012, 04:23 PM

Im all for it.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-07-2012, 04:53 PM

I would love to see "lost stories" with the Mutanimals in the TMNTA Archieverse or something such, but no, not interested in seeing them come to fruition in IDW TMNT at all.

*Oculus Orbus* · 04-07-2012, 07:45 PM

At first, I would've said no, because that's not the kind of stories I wanted to see from IDW. Now, given the route they're going, I wouldn't mind them at all. I'm not saying this necessarily as a bad thing. I love the Mutanimals, and if IDW did it right and took their time, I think they could fit in their universe.

Lampy · 04-07-2012, 09:14 PM

I love the Mutanimals too. But right now, I'd prefer that they focus on the main story arcs. The Oroku-Hamato war should take priority in any incarnation. But I would definitely love to see them later on down the line. With mutants already springing out of nowhere, who knows...

tmnt transformer · 04-07-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And Ace Duck is an alien, not a mutant.

Ace Duck was a mutant according to the file card.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-07-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tmnt transformer

Ace Duck was a mutant according to the file card.

Who cares about the damn file cards. He's an alien from the planet Perdufus in the actual Archie comics so that's all that matters.

Comics, TV shows, movies > Toys/merch/promotional material. It's not difficult math.

tmnt transformer · 04-07-2012, 09:34 PM

I have never read the archie comics............Besides a planet full of giant ducks is kind of goofy.

*CyberCubed* · 04-07-2012, 09:36 PM

Technically Slash was from an alien Turtle planet in the Archie series. I wonder if he's from the same alien planet that Michael Bay's Turtles are from?

*Raph's Girl* · 04-07-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tmnt transformer

I have never read the archie comics............Besides a planet full of giant ducks is kind of goofy.

Awww u hurt the wittle feelings of everybody from Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Quack Pack, Howard the Duck's homeworld, Mighty Ducks homeworld....

*Andrew NDB* · 04-07-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tmnt transformer

I have never read the archie comics............Besides a planet full of giant ducks is kind of goofy.

I don't disagree with that. But the cardboard back of a action figure hardly trumps an actual in-story origin.

*Galactus* · 04-07-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Wingnut and Screwloose are aliens too. And Ninjara wasn't a mutant either.

Other than Mondo, Ray and LH most of the Mutanimals weren't actual mutants. They were either aliens or evolved species of animals on Earth.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I would love to see "lost stories" with the Mutanimals in the TMNTA Archieverse or something such, but no, not interested in seeing them come to fruition in IDW TMNT at all.

I'd like that too but I don't think they were active long enough as a group to merit an ongoing series. I suppose it could take place in a universe alternate to the TMNT Adventures one were they lived.

It's probably up in the air but from what I'm seeing, a version of the mutanimals wouldn't be too out of place in the TMNT's corner of the IDWverse.

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Awww u hurt the wittle feelings of everybody from Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Quack Pack, Howard the Duck's homeworld, Mighty Ducks homeworld....

Never watched Mighty Ducks but it's pretty established that all those other universes were full of anthropomorphised animals in general, not just ducks.

I believe Steve Gerber hated it when another writer erroneously portrayed Howard the Duck's world as full of ducks.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

But the cardboard back of a action figure hardly trumps an actual in-story origin.

The Archie version of Ace Duck is so nonedescript that it could have been any Playmates figure or even an original character. I suppose personal preference for the version that came first and was more thought out might trump Archie's "let's make him an alien" (are you listening Bay?)

If a planet of muscle bound ducks isn't weird enough, a planet of turtles were one just happens to dress just like the Terran TMNT takes the cake imo.

*CyberCubed* · 04-08-2012, 12:12 AM

I don't like the character of Ace Duck at all, I am glad he only had a cameo in the original cartoon on TV, so he wasn't even a "real" character in that show.

Fred Wolf/Playmates created some really stupid animal mutants back in the 90's, but some of them definitely stand out as being cool and memorable. That being said once you have too many animal mutants it kind of becomes too much.

The last thing we need is for Earth to be populated with tons of humanoid animal characters.

04-07-2012, 10:29 AM	#1
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Question to IDW: could IDW use the Mutanimals? Hey, I was wondering, since IDW now has the TMNT lisensce, would the ever consider bringing back the mighty Mutanimals in some form? It's been so long since we've seen these guys, and 'd love to see them ethier as allies of the Turtles, or in thier own spin-off book. I know that many people feel that too many mutants ruin the turtles/make them feel less special, but when you have tons of anthro aliens running around, that whole concept makes the specialness on the TMNT go straight out the window. My roster, taken from the turtles' allied mutants, would be: 1.) Ray Fillet 2.) Mondo Gecko 3.) Wingnut/Screwloose 4.) Mona lisa 5.) Ninjara (or Aeoplex) 6.) Ace Duck They could come from all those mutating animals we saw in the Cages in the Raph microseries issue. What does everybody else think? __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

04-07-2012, 02:36 PM	#6
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,187	I was never a fan of them. Leatherhead was the only one I liked and he was a good human opposed to an evi mutant gator. Despite that I never got why they were killed off. Yeah, I know ot was poor sales,but just make them either disband or just appear once every several storylines. Shaking up the turtles allies alligence with different members may work. It depends on who is in it and if the storyline makes sense for it to happen. I want to see other mutants but to take time for each story element already in play to develop before Leatherhead or Slash or any good or bad mutant returns. I want to see Krang's background fleshed out. At this point I am more interested in that than the "war" Shredder is involved in. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

04-07-2012, 04:53 PM	#10
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,399	I would love to see "lost stories" with the Mutanimals in the TMNTA Archieverse or something such, but no, not interested in seeing them come to fruition in IDW TMNT at all. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-07-2012, 01:04 PM	#2
Killer Moth Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 384	Since they are using Krang/Bebop/Rocksteady, anything is possible. Once the Krang/Neutrino arc gets fully swinging, Wingnut/Screwloose probably wouldn't feel as out of place, providing IDW goes with the Archie characterization and backstory. Since Krang in this version is coming off as a real SOB, it wouldn't be difficult at all to see him or his troops commit genocide on Huanu. As for the others, I personally have no problems with the other Mutanimals showing up, if introduced and written properly (and, most importantly, not overused). And if so, they should wait until after the Krang/Baxter arc and possibly after this "Ninja War" that has been alluded and foreshadowed about. Having so many mutant animals running around so early -- besides the Turtles, there's currently Hob, Apolex and eventually Bebop/Rocksteady --, could be rather jarring. While we're at it, someone should make a matching thread with the Mirage superheroes (e.g., Nobody, Metalhead) as the same argument also applies to them. Thus, re-sparking the always fun "mutant animals in other TMNT media vs. superheroes in Mirage" debate, etc.

04-07-2012, 01:41 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	Its possible. I doubt we'll ever see Ninjara though because Alopex is too similar a character. And Ace Duck is an alien, not a mutant.

04-07-2012, 02:22 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	But Ace Duck was never associated with the Mutanimals. Likewise I always saw merdude an as unofficial member. Napoleon and Mona Lisa joining would be fine.

04-07-2012, 04:17 PM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	I thought the Mutanimals were decent characters but the fact that they're mostly remembered that they all died says a lot.

04-07-2012, 04:23 PM	#9
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	Im all for it.

04-07-2012, 07:45 PM	#11
Oculus Orbus Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 1,535	At first, I would've said no, because that's not the kind of stories I wanted to see from IDW. Now, given the route they're going, I wouldn't mind them at all. I'm not saying this necessarily as a bad thing. I love the Mutanimals, and if IDW did it right and took their time, I think they could fit in their universe.

04-07-2012, 09:14 PM	#12
Lampy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 748	I love the Mutanimals too. But right now, I'd prefer that they focus on the main story arcs. The Oroku-Hamato war should take priority in any incarnation. But I would definitely love to see them later on down the line. With mutants already springing out of nowhere, who knows...

04-07-2012, 09:34 PM	#15
tmnt transformer Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Okoto Posts: 757	I have never read the archie comics............Besides a planet full of giant ducks is kind of goofy.

04-07-2012, 09:36 PM	#16
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	Technically Slash was from an alien Turtle planet in the Archie series. I wonder if he's from the same alien planet that Michael Bay's Turtles are from?

04-08-2012, 12:12 AM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	I don't like the character of Ace Duck at all, I am glad he only had a cameo in the original cartoon on TV, so he wasn't even a "real" character in that show. Fred Wolf/Playmates created some really stupid animal mutants back in the 90's, but some of them definitely stand out as being cool and memorable. That being said once you have too many animal mutants it kind of becomes too much. The last thing we need is for Earth to be populated with tons of humanoid animal characters.