The different Stockmans

E-Master · 05-13-2003, 08:30 AM

I was woundering if anyone had any picture of the old Stockman but before he became a fly. I just like to see how different he looks from the one today.

**Karpo_007** · 05-13-2003, 09:38 AM

Sorry don't have a picture, but the if you know how the original Baxter looked, you can see they changed it a lot for old cartoon,

Splinter · 05-13-2003, 10:01 AM

Of course making Stockman white for the old cartoon, was more based on PC reasons then anything else. I hate politically correct bullcrap, but it's a bit understandable at the time that they didn't want to portray all ethic people as being evil. They already had Oroku Saki who was asian, add a black Baxter on top of that, and your going to get some folks calling foul on the racial PC card.

**Karpo_007** · 05-13-2003, 10:34 AM

Well they changed the whole character, but that could be the reason why they changed his color...

~~TheShredder~~ · 05-13-2003, 01:31 PM

http://www.mikeystmnt.com/characters...les/baxter.htm

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-13-2003, 02:32 PM

Dude, even if Baxter was black in the old as well as Shredder, which no one sees or cares who is behind the mask...it wouldn't make a difference, because the good guys aren't white in this case. I am quite sure many moms would hate slimy turtles much more than black people back then, and it wasn't like the 1930's or anything sheesh...

Splinter · 05-13-2003, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokka

Dude, even if Baxter was black in the old as well as Shredder, which no one sees or cares who is behind the mask...it wouldn't make a difference, because the good guys aren't white in this case. I am quite sure many moms would hate slimy turtles much more than black people back then, and it wasn't like the 1930's or anything sheesh...

You would be suprised what people would complain about, my friend. Hell, Lucas took flack that there were nothing but white characters in the first Star Wars. Even though they seem to have forgotten it's Sci-Fi littered with tons of aliens. Hence, the addition of Lando for ESB.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-13-2003, 09:17 PM

Well, they got away with an asian villian because Splinter was also asian, so they could easily have just added a recurring Black good guy that appears as often as Baxter.

*That Matt Guy* · 05-13-2003, 09:47 PM

They probably just wanted a stupid comic relief mad scientist for the old toon.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 05-14-2003, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter

You would be suprised what people would complain about, my friend. Hell, Lucas took flack that there were nothing but white characters in the first Star Wars. Even though they seem to have forgotten it's Sci-Fi littered with tons of aliens. Hence, the addition of Lando for ESB.

I don't think he "added" Lando, he was a character from the start. I think what you mean is that he decided to use a black actor for the role

impetus · 05-14-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

They probably just wanted a stupid comic relief mad scientist for the old toon.

bingo

Caliosidhe · 05-14-2003, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus

Well, they got away with an asian villian because Splinter was also asian, so they could easily have just added a recurring Black good guy that appears as often as Baxter.

This explains Silver Sentry

Splinter · 05-14-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Caliosidhe

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus

Well, they got away with an asian villian because Splinter was also asian, so they could easily have just added a recurring Black good guy that appears as often as Baxter.

This explains Silver Sentry

But lets all hope, that he doesn't become a reaccuring black good guy. The episode was good, but they can do a lot better then Silver Sentry.

**Karpo_007** · 05-14-2003, 01:27 PM

I doubt we will be seeing that character again.

E-Master · 05-15-2003, 10:19 AM

Well at least the new seem better than the old. And for Silver Septer he's on a different quest. May see Mikey again someday...

05-13-2003, 08:30 AM	#1
E-Master Mouser Join Date: May 2003 Location: Far away country Posts: 10	The different Stockmans I was woundering if anyone had any picture of the old Stockman but before he became a fly. I just like to see how different he looks from the one today. __________________ My lemurs are well trained.

05-13-2003, 10:01 AM	#3
Splinter Radical Rat Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Splinter's Dojo Posts: 1,531	Of course making Stockman white for the old cartoon, was more based on PC reasons then anything else. I hate politically correct bullcrap, but it's a bit understandable at the time that they didn't want to portray all ethic people as being evil. They already had Oroku Saki who was asian, add a black Baxter on top of that, and your going to get some folks calling foul on the racial PC card. __________________ R.I.P. Master Splinter - Mirage Comics - May 1984 / June 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - New Episode Guide

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05-15-2003, 10:19 AM	#15
E-Master Mouser Join Date: May 2003 Location: Far away country Posts: 10	Well at least the new seem better than the old. And for Silver Septer he's on a different quest. May see Mikey again someday... __________________ My lemurs are well trained.

05-13-2003, 09:38 AM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Sorry don't have a picture, but the if you know how the original Baxter looked, you can see they changed it a lot for old cartoon,

05-13-2003, 10:34 AM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well they changed the whole character, but that could be the reason why they changed his color...

05-13-2003, 01:31 PM	#5
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442	http://www.mikeystmnt.com/characters...les/baxter.htm

05-13-2003, 02:32 PM	#6
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Dude, even if Baxter was black in the old as well as Shredder, which no one sees or cares who is behind the mask...it wouldn't make a difference, because the good guys aren't white in this case. I am quite sure many moms would hate slimy turtles much more than black people back then, and it wasn't like the 1930's or anything sheesh...

05-13-2003, 09:47 PM	#9
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	They probably just wanted a stupid comic relief mad scientist for the old toon.

05-14-2003, 01:27 PM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I doubt we will be seeing that character again.