Turtlemania gold on ebay?

Jasper-X · 07-07-2012, 09:37 AM

i came across these two turtlemania golds on ebay and thought it was too good to be true. two copies, #4 of 10 and #6 of 10. both copies were sold by the same person for $450 each, however due to the extreme rarity of these items i figured they were fakes. i did a lot of research on these and the only thing that i could find was that on the first inside page (the only white page that is pictured in this auction) is slightly see through, which i dont believe is the case with the white and silver versions. only one of these copies had signatures from both eastman and laird on it, which i didnt find odd because that is the case with number #8 of 10, where as #1 and #2 of 10 did not have signatures. the links for the ended auctions are below, can anyone else offer some insight on these copies? my gut tells me they're fake, however if someone can offer some reasons why, that would be great. lastly if anyone knows how to tell the difference between a real and a fake so that in the future i can be well informed on the matter, that would be greatly helpful and appreciated.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1258

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1258

Archon_Turtle · 07-07-2012, 01:38 PM

I'm heartbroken I missed these auctions. They were already sold by the time I got the email. I would have pulled the trigger in a second had i seen them in time.

Anyway, to answer your question, there have been no known counterfeits of this particular book. The only counterfeits I have seen in relation to Turtlemania Special #1 are people taking whites and having them signed, then trying to sell them as silvers.

And as someone who considers himself an expert on being able to recognize Kevin and Peter's work (and as a Turtlemania Gold owner), I can tell you without a doubt, that they are both authentic.

This now makes 6 out of the 10 known to collectors. There are still 4 copies out there somewhere

Jasper-X · 07-07-2012, 01:54 PM

thank you for the information, i really appreciate it

Archon_Turtle · 07-07-2012, 02:04 PM

These are 5 of the 6 we know about. There is one missing from the album (if anyone has a picture of the missing one, let me know)

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mania%20Golds/

The missing photo is 9/10. So we (as a community) now have:
1/10
2/10
4/10
6/10
8/10
9/10

Leaving 3, 5, 7, and 10 still out there somewhere.

nickn · 07-07-2012, 08:00 PM

WOW that is crazy... Alton, IL is a small town, not even 3 min away from where I live... how did this lady end up with these?!?!?!?

**Venom** · 07-07-2012, 09:03 PM

Damn, 1 person had 2 of these things all this time!

Wonder if the buyer resides on the Drome?

nickn · 07-07-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom

Damn, 1 person had 2 of these things all this time!

Wonder if the buyer resides on the Drome?

the profile pic looks like a little old lady, and her past and current auctions look like... furniture.. I don't get it.

*Jephael* · 07-07-2012, 09:12 PM

Maybe they belonged to her son or something.

*MrPliggins* · 07-08-2012, 12:35 AM

Wow, I would have gotten at least one of those too had I seen them in time. Too bad I was at a party all day! Oh well. Hope they went to a good home. I would also agree with a good percentage of certainty that these are authentic.

*Mayhem* · 07-08-2012, 07:10 AM

Yeah, I saw these quite early after being listed, and was wondering if they were authentic, especially as someone said, they seemed to being sold for quite a low price compared to what I was expecting. Evidently I should have pulled the trigger on one of them then... bugger.

SS_Turtle · 07-08-2012, 09:53 PM

Damn I'm pissed I missed my chance!

SS_Turtle · 07-08-2012, 10:00 PM

I wonder how long it will take the people who bought them to CGC them and relist them.......

Archon_Turtle · 07-08-2012, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Turtle

I wonder how long it will take the people who bought them to CGC them and relist them.......

The buyer is actually a Turtle collector. So I'm not sure you'll see these relisted. If they sell, they will most likely go to someone else within the circle.

Slash32 · 07-08-2012, 10:50 PM

I'm glad to know that almost all 10 of these copies belong to fans from this forum even if I don't own one personally it's like we all do because we're all connected through this site and share any info with eachother this is why I like the Technodrome Forum.

oldschoolturtlesfan · 07-09-2012, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

I'm heartbroken I missed these auctions. They were already sold by the time I got the email. I would have pulled the trigger in a second had i seen them in time.

Anyway, to answer your question, there have been no known counterfeits of this particular book. The only counterfeits I have seen in relation to Turtlemania Special #1 are people taking whites and having them signed, then trying to sell them as silvers.

And as someone who considers himself an expert on being able to recognize Kevin and Peter's work (and as a Turtlemania Gold owner), I can tell you without a doubt, that they are both authentic.

This now makes 6 out of the 10 known to collectors. There are still 4 copies out there somewhere

Wish I would have seen this earlier too. Quick question. If they did not have a "buy it now price" how much do you think these things could have went for. I know they are worth whatever people are willing to pay, but I have never seen one of these for sale at any price since only 10 exist.

Archon_Turtle · 07-10-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldschoolturtlesfan

Wish I would have seen this earlier too. Quick question. If they did not have a "buy it now price" how much do you think these things could have went for. I know they are worth whatever people are willing to pay, but I have never seen one of these for sale at any price since only 10 exist.

I believe high price so far for one is 4k.

**Venom** · 07-10-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

I believe high price so far for one is 4k.

And once again the wildly divergent pendulum of TMNT comic values swings.

Seriously though, wasn't the 4k book graded/slabbed?

SCARE! · 07-10-2012, 03:54 PM

are there any scans about? would love to read..

Archon_Turtle · 07-10-2012, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom

And once again the wildly divergent pendulum of TMNT comic values swings.

Seriously though, wasn't the 4k book graded/slabbed?

No, it wasn't.

SS_Turtle · 07-10-2012, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

The buyer is actually a Turtle collector. So I'm not sure you'll see these relisted. If they sell, they will most likely go to someone else within the circle.

I hope he decides to sell at least one

07-08-2012, 07:10 AM	#10
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,072	Yeah, I saw these quite early after being listed, and was wondering if they were authentic, especially as someone said, they seemed to being sold for quite a low price compared to what I was expecting. Evidently I should have pulled the trigger on one of them then... bugger. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

07-07-2012, 09:37 AM	#1
Jasper-X Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 262	Turtlemania gold on ebay? i came across these two turtlemania golds on ebay and thought it was too good to be true. two copies, #4 of 10 and #6 of 10. both copies were sold by the same person for $450 each, however due to the extreme rarity of these items i figured they were fakes. i did a lot of research on these and the only thing that i could find was that on the first inside page (the only white page that is pictured in this auction) is slightly see through, which i dont believe is the case with the white and silver versions. only one of these copies had signatures from both eastman and laird on it, which i didnt find odd because that is the case with number #8 of 10, where as #1 and #2 of 10 did not have signatures. the links for the ended auctions are below, can anyone else offer some insight on these copies? my gut tells me they're fake, however if someone can offer some reasons why, that would be great. lastly if anyone knows how to tell the difference between a real and a fake so that in the future i can be well informed on the matter, that would be greatly helpful and appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1258 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1258

07-07-2012, 01:38 PM	#2
Archon_Turtle I'm SUPER into myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 4,667	I'm heartbroken I missed these auctions. They were already sold by the time I got the email. I would have pulled the trigger in a second had i seen them in time. Anyway, to answer your question, there have been no known counterfeits of this particular book. The only counterfeits I have seen in relation to Turtlemania Special #1 are people taking whites and having them signed, then trying to sell them as silvers. And as someone who considers himself an expert on being able to recognize Kevin and Peter's work (and as a Turtlemania Gold owner), I can tell you without a doubt, that they are both authentic. This now makes 6 out of the 10 known to collectors. There are still 4 copies out there somewhere Last edited by Archon_Turtle; 07-07-2012 at 01:43 PM.

07-07-2012, 01:54 PM	#3
Jasper-X Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 262	thank you for the information, i really appreciate it

07-07-2012, 02:04 PM	#4
Archon_Turtle I'm SUPER into myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 4,667	These are 5 of the 6 we know about. There is one missing from the album (if anyone has a picture of the missing one, let me know) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...mania%20Golds/ The missing photo is 9/10. So we (as a community) now have: 1/10 2/10 4/10 6/10 8/10 9/10 Leaving 3, 5, 7, and 10 still out there somewhere. Last edited by Archon_Turtle; 07-07-2012 at 02:27 PM.

07-07-2012, 08:00 PM	#5
nickn Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hartford, IL Posts: 174	WOW that is crazy... Alton, IL is a small town, not even 3 min away from where I live... how did this lady end up with these?!?!?!?

07-07-2012, 09:03 PM	#6
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Damn, 1 person had 2 of these things all this time! Wonder if the buyer resides on the Drome? __________________

07-07-2012, 09:12 PM	#8
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Maybe they belonged to her son or something. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

07-08-2012, 12:35 AM	#9
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,050	Wow, I would have gotten at least one of those too had I seen them in time. Too bad I was at a party all day! Oh well. Hope they went to a good home. I would also agree with a good percentage of certainty that these are authentic.

07-08-2012, 09:53 PM	#11
SS_Turtle Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Northeast Posts: 355	Damn I'm pissed I missed my chance!

07-08-2012, 10:00 PM	#12
SS_Turtle Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Northeast Posts: 355	I wonder how long it will take the people who bought them to CGC them and relist them.......

07-08-2012, 10:50 PM	#14
Slash32 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Riverside, Ca. Posts: 353	I'm glad to know that almost all 10 of these copies belong to fans from this forum even if I don't own one personally it's like we all do because we're all connected through this site and share any info with eachother this is why I like the Technodrome Forum.

07-10-2012, 03:54 PM	#18
SCARE! New Recruit Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4	are there any scans about? would love to read..