Any other vintage collectors not interested in the new stuff?

1988 · 09-11-2012, 08:26 AM

Hi

I am a vintage collector, anything after 93-94 you lost me...The new stuff is too Nickelodeon for my liking, too commercial and bland...designed by marketing teams to sell as much as possible

The old range has little quirks and weird touches that are really cool...They are also less politically correct, less commercial and more artistic

does anyone else feel this?

*Candy Kappa* · 09-11-2012, 08:31 AM

completely opposite here. I'd say the new Nick line, at least the turtles harken more back to the vintage style with the detailed sculpting and all around style.

*Zulithe* · 09-11-2012, 08:38 AM

I grew up with the OT and I am also interested in the new Nick show. It is hard at this point to weigh both sides since the Nick show has not even premiered, so I want to withhold too much comparison for my part.

The original Mirage comics embody a lot of what you expressed -- feeling very authentic to what it was and not overly commercial. But of course it would have to be because it is a property from the minds of two men who never dreamed it could grow into such a phenomenon within only a few years time.

I don't agree that the OT itself had that same feeling. To me, the OT feels very commercial and safe. It's designed to sell toys and merch, no different from the Nick show.

Again, at this early date it is hard to say, but I am already getting the impression that the new Nick show is truer to the spirit of what TMNT originally was than the OT, despite now being owned by Nickelodeon who's only goal is clearly to make mad bank. The difference are the showrunners and brains behind the scenes. From all of the interviews and videos, I really get the impression that every aspect of the Nick show has been thought over very carefully, whereas in the OT there were a lot of haphazard changes done strictly to appeal to children

I don't know how you can say that it doesn't feel artistic. To me the animation is gorgeous in motion. The scene in the latest clip (the "pizza discovery" one) where the turtles are flipping around on top of buildings was pitch perfect. There is artistry there, it is just different.

Now as for strictly the toys themselves, I think the 4 turtles are really, really great. Each one is so distinct, despite all being mutant turtles from the same fishbowl. The articulation is fantastic for an $8.99 figure. Personally, I'm impressed with them. The paint jobs could be better, but that's a problem with just about every toy on the shelf these days.

The other non-turtle figures are weaker. I'm particularly unhappy with Splinter. I think the original Splinter figure is still my all-time favorite.

*Candy Kappa* · 09-11-2012, 08:47 AM

The toys, not the show

*Zulithe* · 09-11-2012, 08:49 AM

I know. I made some edits. I always view the "new posts" and didn't pay particular attention to what board this was posted in. Still, I'd reason that if he is not all that happy with the toys he probably feels similar to the show :p

Yep It's A Trap · 09-11-2012, 08:59 AM

I am in 100 percent agreement with you. Anything after 94, I'm just not that interested in. I don't like the look of the new Nick toys. I think they look generic. I do however like the new Turtle Sewer lair. I might purchase one of those for my son to see if he might enjoy it when he gets older. Other than that, there's no interest. I didn't buy any of the 2k3 line either.

I'm one of the few who doesn't even like the looks of the classics. They are a small jump a head in quality but I'm just disappointed. They really should have gotten someone to do some great sculpts. Maybe my hopes were too high.

In any case, you are definitely not alone. I'm a vintage collector on all fronts with the few exceptions here and there. I did buy all the NECA turtles in the many packaged forms. I love those. Other than that, it's been disappointing...at least to me.

1988 · 09-11-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Yep It's A Trap

I am in 100 percent agreement with you. Anything after 94, I'm just not that interested in. I don't like the look of the new Nick toys. I think they look generic.

yeah generic sums it up...I hate that 'big feet' style that everything is drawn in these days, and also the power puff girls style...just so bland and generic

the thing I love about the originals is things like the ooze, and all the ghastly details you found on muckman, general traag etc

these new figures are too shiny and smooth..a total yawnfest

*Mzx10484* · 09-11-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 1988

yeah generic sums it up...I hate that 'big feet' style that everything is drawn in these days, and also the power puff girls style...just so bland and generic

the thing I love about the originals is things like the ooze, and all the ghastly details you found on muckman, general traag etc

these new figures are too shiny and smooth..a total yawnfest

Yes. I was born in 1984 and grew up with the original cartoon from the late 80s, so my interests are only in this origin. But it's good that the Turtles live on for younger people and collectors, they are still presently, although there were changes...

Veedubguy83 · 09-11-2012, 10:30 PM

I think everyone is going to have their own preference, I was born in '83 and grew up loving Ghostbusters, then I moved on to the Turtles... Once the '90's came around I was hooked on the X-Men... And to this day, Those 3 properties still capture my inner child, and I don't care what form it is in... So with that, I have collected everything from the new Nick line. I think the new toys are fantastic and am looking forward to seeing this line grow! Will it ever be as big as Playmates first run with the Turtles? Probably not! But either way, no matter what happens, I am going to support my Turtles till the bitter end!

*Shogun26* · 09-11-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mzx10484

Yes. I was born in 1984 and grew up with the original cartoon from the late 80s, so my interests are only in this origin. But it's good that the Turtles live on for younger people and collectors, they are still presently, although there were changes...

Very well said and i agree with ya.

Bill · 09-12-2012, 09:52 AM

I agree, I am a vintage collector too 1988 to 1995 (cause I like the Sumo and Adventures Turtles that came that year). No 2003 toys, Neca, Nick, etc. I think they are great too but they will never match the original toys.

*Mzx10484* · 09-12-2012, 09:54 AM

This is my mind, too, but like I said, it is good that the Turtles live on !!

dkram230 · 09-12-2012, 10:16 AM

I like the new toys! The old ones hold a nostalgic place in my heart and can never be replaced. But as far as the new ones go, I really like the detail, texture, movements, etc. PLaymates did a good job with these and I'm proud to own them. I do think the artwork on the card is definitely lacking in comparison though. And it's hard for my 3 year old to get the weapons in to the turtles hands. I don't remember them being so stiff and tight with the original lineup. Hopefully this will change in time as the hands scretch from use.

At the end of the day, these turtles only share a slight resemblance to the Nick TMNT just as the ‘88s only had a slight resemblance to the ’87 show. The same can be said for the 2k3. Playmates tends to do their own thing. In fact, I believe several characters in the original show and Adventures comics were inspired by figures in the toy line.

*pannoni1* · 09-12-2012, 06:16 PM

I am a vintage collector and do have a fair number of 2k3 figures and hope to get some Nick stuff when I find it at a good price. As long as its fun and appealing is what matters, not its age, and I am actually jealous at how good the new Sewer Lair is compared to the original. But the vintage figures are classics that have stood the test of time and are the first figures that come to mind when I talk Turtles. I am a bit of a nostalgist myself, but the Turtles are special in that they continue the spirit into the present with new and improved products.

Heather Breckel · 09-12-2012, 07:25 PM

I'm not a collector, but I grew up on the original cartoon and toys. I like the new toys a lot. While they could be a little fancier with the paint, I really like the designs. The new Nick toys were actually the first TMNT toys I'd bought since I was a kid in the 80s. (aside from a 2k3 Mikey)

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 09-14-2012, 05:44 AM

I grew up with the original cartoon and toyline, and I never really grew out of it, I'm still obsessed with it to this day. I do think some of the 2k3 toyline was cool, especially Leatherhead, a huge improvement to the first one. I myself prefer vintage TMNT, but as others have said, I am happy to see the new Nick TMNT toys and show for younger generations and collectors to enjoy so the TMNT can live on.

Memphis · 09-14-2012, 11:53 AM

I'm a vintage collector. Everything with the classic TMNT logo toy wise. I am, however, picking up the new line slowly. I figure since they're not too expensive I might as well.

Weirdo-Warrior · 09-19-2012, 05:39 AM

I find the 2003 line pretty cool, and I'm definitely going to check out the new one as well. I'm not buying anything for now, however, no room / no money.

What I miss in the later TMNT incarnations is, however, that dirty, rotten and sick feeling many characters had, the villains in particular. They are way too clean.

andrewdsz · 09-19-2012, 10:37 AM

The toy lines from 2003, 2007 and Fast forward REALLY sucks, however the new Nick tmnts are great.

Out of my way i bited the bullet yesterday, went to toysrus picked up all the 9 basic figures and they are great! Especially the four turtles.

brianforedteam · 09-21-2012, 02:37 PM

I really like the new turtle figures and kraang but am not to crazy about the others in the line....I DESPISE the shredder and his ridiculous spikes but at least he stands straight instead of some sudo crouching position...nothing will take the place of seeing the original 80's line in the packaging though. Anytime I see that it just gives me a good feeling inside.

09-11-2012, 08:26 AM	#1
1988 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 162	Any other vintage collectors not interested in the new stuff? Hi I am a vintage collector, anything after 93-94 you lost me...The new stuff is too Nickelodeon for my liking, too commercial and bland...designed by marketing teams to sell as much as possible The old range has little quirks and weird touches that are really cool...They are also less politically correct, less commercial and more artistic does anyone else feel this?

09-11-2012, 08:31 AM	#2
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	completely opposite here. I'd say the new Nick line, at least the turtles harken more back to the vintage style with the detailed sculpting and all around style. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

09-11-2012, 08:38 AM	#3
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	I grew up with the OT and I am also interested in the new Nick show. It is hard at this point to weigh both sides since the Nick show has not even premiered, so I want to withhold too much comparison for my part. The original Mirage comics embody a lot of what you expressed -- feeling very authentic to what it was and not overly commercial. But of course it would have to be because it is a property from the minds of two men who never dreamed it could grow into such a phenomenon within only a few years time. I don't agree that the OT itself had that same feeling. To me, the OT feels very commercial and safe. It's designed to sell toys and merch, no different from the Nick show. Again, at this early date it is hard to say, but I am already getting the impression that the new Nick show is truer to the spirit of what TMNT originally was than the OT, despite now being owned by Nickelodeon who's only goal is clearly to make mad bank. The difference are the showrunners and brains behind the scenes. From all of the interviews and videos, I really get the impression that every aspect of the Nick show has been thought over very carefully, whereas in the OT there were a lot of haphazard changes done strictly to appeal to children I don't know how you can say that it doesn't feel artistic. To me the animation is gorgeous in motion. The scene in the latest clip (the "pizza discovery" one) where the turtles are flipping around on top of buildings was pitch perfect. There is artistry there, it is just different. Now as for strictly the toys themselves, I think the 4 turtles are really, really great. Each one is so distinct, despite all being mutant turtles from the same fishbowl. The articulation is fantastic for an $8.99 figure. Personally, I'm impressed with them. The paint jobs could be better, but that's a problem with just about every toy on the shelf these days. The other non-turtle figures are weaker. I'm particularly unhappy with Splinter. I think the original Splinter figure is still my all-time favorite. Last edited by Zulithe; 09-11-2012 at 08:47 AM.

09-11-2012, 08:47 AM	#4
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	The toys, not the show __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

09-12-2012, 06:16 PM	#14
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I am a vintage collector and do have a fair number of 2k3 figures and hope to get some Nick stuff when I find it at a good price. As long as its fun and appealing is what matters, not its age, and I am actually jealous at how good the new Sewer Lair is compared to the original. But the vintage figures are classics that have stood the test of time and are the first figures that come to mind when I talk Turtles. I am a bit of a nostalgist myself, but the Turtles are special in that they continue the spirit into the present with new and improved products. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

09-11-2012, 08:49 AM	#5
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	I know. I made some edits. I always view the "new posts" and didn't pay particular attention to what board this was posted in. Still, I'd reason that if he is not all that happy with the toys he probably feels similar to the show :p

09-11-2012, 08:59 AM	#6
Yep It's A Trap Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 104	I am in 100 percent agreement with you. Anything after 94, I'm just not that interested in. I don't like the look of the new Nick toys. I think they look generic. I do however like the new Turtle Sewer lair. I might purchase one of those for my son to see if he might enjoy it when he gets older. Other than that, there's no interest. I didn't buy any of the 2k3 line either. I'm one of the few who doesn't even like the looks of the classics. They are a small jump a head in quality but I'm just disappointed. They really should have gotten someone to do some great sculpts. Maybe my hopes were too high. In any case, you are definitely not alone. I'm a vintage collector on all fronts with the few exceptions here and there. I did buy all the NECA turtles in the many packaged forms. I love those. Other than that, it's been disappointing...at least to me.

09-11-2012, 10:30 PM	#9
Veedubguy83 Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 264	I think everyone is going to have their own preference, I was born in '83 and grew up loving Ghostbusters, then I moved on to the Turtles... Once the '90's came around I was hooked on the X-Men... And to this day, Those 3 properties still capture my inner child, and I don't care what form it is in... So with that, I have collected everything from the new Nick line. I think the new toys are fantastic and am looking forward to seeing this line grow! Will it ever be as big as Playmates first run with the Turtles? Probably not! But either way, no matter what happens, I am going to support my Turtles till the bitter end!

09-12-2012, 09:52 AM	#11
Bill Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 666	I agree, I am a vintage collector too 1988 to 1995 (cause I like the Sumo and Adventures Turtles that came that year). No 2003 toys, Neca, Nick, etc. I think they are great too but they will never match the original toys.

09-12-2012, 09:54 AM	#12
Mzx10484 WEM Super Starfinder 200 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 2,085	This is my mind, too, but like I said, it is good that the Turtles live on !!

09-12-2012, 10:16 AM	#13
dkram230 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 613	I like the new toys! The old ones hold a nostalgic place in my heart and can never be replaced. But as far as the new ones go, I really like the detail, texture, movements, etc. PLaymates did a good job with these and I'm proud to own them. I do think the artwork on the card is definitely lacking in comparison though. And it's hard for my 3 year old to get the weapons in to the turtles hands. I don't remember them being so stiff and tight with the original lineup. Hopefully this will change in time as the hands scretch from use. At the end of the day, these turtles only share a slight resemblance to the Nick TMNT just as the ‘88s only had a slight resemblance to the ’87 show. The same can be said for the 2k3. Playmates tends to do their own thing. In fact, I believe several characters in the original show and Adventures comics were inspired by figures in the toy line.

09-12-2012, 07:25 PM	#15
Heather Breckel Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 308	I'm not a collector, but I grew up on the original cartoon and toys. I like the new toys a lot. While they could be a little fancier with the paint, I really like the designs. The new Nick toys were actually the first TMNT toys I'd bought since I was a kid in the 80s. (aside from a 2k3 Mikey)

09-14-2012, 05:44 AM	#16
~~TurtleManiac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KALI Posts: 1,008	I grew up with the original cartoon and toyline, and I never really grew out of it, I'm still obsessed with it to this day. I do think some of the 2k3 toyline was cool, especially Leatherhead, a huge improvement to the first one. I myself prefer vintage TMNT, but as others have said, I am happy to see the new Nick TMNT toys and show for younger generations and collectors to enjoy so the TMNT can live on.

09-14-2012, 11:53 AM	#17
Memphis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 581	I'm a vintage collector. Everything with the classic TMNT logo toy wise. I am, however, picking up the new line slowly. I figure since they're not too expensive I might as well. __________________ I am a rock, not just another grain of sand. Looking for MOC Dino figures. PM me if you're selling! Already have Ankyl Leo

09-19-2012, 05:39 AM	#18
Weirdo-Warrior Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Turin, Italy Posts: 195	I find the 2003 line pretty cool, and I'm definitely going to check out the new one as well. I'm not buying anything for now, however, no room / no money. What I miss in the later TMNT incarnations is, however, that dirty, rotten and sick feeling many characters had, the villains in particular. They are way too clean. __________________ "I'm pure protein!"

09-19-2012, 10:37 AM	#19
andrewdsz Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 952	The toy lines from 2003, 2007 and Fast forward REALLY sucks, however the new Nick tmnts are great. Out of my way i bited the bullet yesterday, went to toysrus picked up all the 9 basic figures and they are great! Especially the four turtles.

09-21-2012, 02:37 PM	#20
brianforedteam Mouser Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 14	I really like the new turtle figures and kraang but am not to crazy about the others in the line....I DESPISE the shredder and his ridiculous spikes but at least he stands straight instead of some sudo crouching position...nothing will take the place of seeing the original 80's line in the packaging though. Anytime I see that it just gives me a good feeling inside.