Was Ultra a division of Konami?

*DrSpengler* · 05-27-2003, 06:09 AM

Just a quick question.

The first two games for the NES say they were produced by Ultra games. Was that a division of Konami? Because every game after that was labled as a Konami product.

Thanks.

**GK Punk** · 05-27-2003, 07:04 AM

Short answer, yes

**Karpo_007** · 05-27-2003, 07:46 AM

It was? I have alwyas tough diffrent company made the first nes game..

Dinny · 05-27-2003, 07:51 AM

Im sure theyre not the same company and they just workd together because Ultra games even creates its own consoles.

**GK Punk** · 05-27-2003, 07:53 AM

No I am pretty sure Ultra atleast WAS a subsidiary(sp) of Konami.
They could have been seperated from them by now for all I know

**GK Punk** · 05-27-2003, 08:11 AM

"A short-lived brand of Konami"

http://www.the-underdogs.org/company...me=Ultra+Games

or

http://www.mobygames.com/game/versions/gameId,6932/

Quote:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Released: 1989 (complete release info)
Published By: Konami
Developed By: Ultra Software Corporation
MobyScore: 4.0 (out of 5)
Platforms: DOS, NES

Genre: Action
Perspective: Platform
Non-Sport: Arcade
Misc: Licensed Title

Release dates, publisher and developer information for this game listed by platform:

DOS
United States Release Info
Release Date: 1989
Published By: Konami
Developed By: Ultra Software Corporation

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NES
United States Release Info
Release Date: 1989
Published By: Ultra Software Corporation
Developed By: Konami

The game was made by Konami, released by their off-shoot company, Ultra

Edit:

Dinny, Ultra has been out of buisness for several years

Dinny · 05-27-2003, 09:55 AM

O right, I didnt no that.

*Raph* · 05-27-2003, 10:07 AM

My first NES copy of TMNT says, 2 developers

Ultra and Palcom

Absolutely no Konami...so I have doubts that Konami was involved

**Karpo_007** · 05-27-2003, 10:11 AM

Palcom was the distributor in Europe. I don't think that Ultra games is part of Konami, but konami hired them to do the game. Star Ocean is Enix's most famous RPG series but still they haven't made a single SO them selfs, they pay Tri Star to do it. I think it's the same with Konami and Ultragames. Why Konami's name doesn't show anywhere in the game, thats a mystery.

*DrSpengler* · 05-27-2003, 04:54 PM

Interesting...

**GK Punk** · 05-27-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Palcom was the distributor in Europe. I don't think that Ultra games is part of Konami, but konami hired them to do the game. Star Ocean is Enix's most famous RPG series but still they haven't made a single SO them selfs, they pay Tri Star to do it. I think it's the same with Konami and Ultragames. Why Konami's name doesn't show anywhere in the game, thats a mystery.

Well I found several websites (2 I already linked to) that says it was owned by Konami, but seeing as how everyone on this board always thinks Im worng, or something, I give up

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-27-2003, 08:55 PM

I believe you.

*Dane E5R* · 05-27-2003, 09:25 PM

GK's right, I remember reading somewhere that Ultra was an affiliate of Konami. Either that, or they're the same company.

Oxnard Hamster · 05-27-2003, 09:37 PM

I think Ultra was a subsidary of Konami. I think I can explain:
I've heard from NES fans that back then, Nintendo had some odd rule about how companies producing for their console could only produce so many games at a time. To get around this, companies like Konami created subsidaries under a different name so they could keep churning out games.

**Karpo_007** · 05-28-2003, 06:45 AM

So ultragames has seprated from Konami later then. I know it's a diffrent company now, if it even excists anymore.

*DrSpengler* · 05-28-2003, 11:43 AM

Ahhhhh....so Ultra WAS owned by Konami.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Ninja Tiptup · 05-28-2003, 05:37 PM

Ultra WAS Konami. Back then companies were only allowed to release a certain ammount of games at a time. Konami needed to release more than they were being allowed. All those Contra's, Castlevania, Metal Gear, etc. So they formed another company to publish the games. Thus Ultra was born. Notable titles include Metal Gear, Skate or Die, and of course Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. This video game lesson was brought to by a guy that seems to know way too much about TMNT video games.

*Roseangelo* · 06-03-2003, 03:13 AM

Yup.. that's exactly right.

impetus · 07-13-2003, 02:04 PM

I like vanilla ice cream.

Raijin Z · 07-24-2003, 02:36 PM

Ultra and Konami published games use the same graphics and sound code. Compare Jackal to Contra. Same explosions, some of the same SFX. Ultra was more of a pseudonym for Konami than a bonafide subsidiary.

05-27-2003, 06:09 AM	#1
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Was Ultra a division of Konami? Just a quick question. The first two games for the NES say they were produced by Ultra games. Was that a division of Konami? Because every game after that was labled as a Konami product. Thanks.

05-27-2003, 10:07 AM	#8
Raph Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 1,888	My first NES copy of TMNT says, 2 developers Ultra and Palcom Absolutely no Konami...so I have doubts that Konami was involved __________________

05-27-2003, 08:55 PM	#12
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	I believe you. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

05-27-2003, 09:37 PM	#14
Oxnard Hamster Thug Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 59	I think Ultra was a subsidary of Konami. I think I can explain: I've heard from NES fans that back then, Nintendo had some odd rule about how companies producing for their console could only produce so many games at a time. To get around this, companies like Konami created subsidaries under a different name so they could keep churning out games. __________________ Sometimes it's darkest just before dawn.

05-28-2003, 05:37 PM	#17
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Ultra WAS Konami. Back then companies were only allowed to release a certain ammount of games at a time. Konami needed to release more than they were being allowed. All those Contra's, Castlevania, Metal Gear, etc. So they formed another company to publish the games. Thus Ultra was born. Notable titles include Metal Gear, Skate or Die, and of course Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. This video game lesson was brought to by a guy that seems to know way too much about TMNT video games. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

05-27-2003, 07:04 AM	#2
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Short answer, yes

05-27-2003, 07:46 AM	#3
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	It was? I have alwyas tough diffrent company made the first nes game..

05-27-2003, 07:51 AM	#4
Dinny Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 774	Im sure theyre not the same company and they just workd together because Ultra games even creates its own consoles.

05-27-2003, 07:53 AM	#5
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	No I am pretty sure Ultra atleast WAS a subsidiary(sp) of Konami. They could have been seperated from them by now for all I know

05-27-2003, 09:55 AM	#7
Dinny Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 774	O right, I didnt no that.

05-27-2003, 10:11 AM	#9
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Palcom was the distributor in Europe. I don't think that Ultra games is part of Konami, but konami hired them to do the game. Star Ocean is Enix's most famous RPG series but still they haven't made a single SO them selfs, they pay Tri Star to do it. I think it's the same with Konami and Ultragames. Why Konami's name doesn't show anywhere in the game, thats a mystery.

05-27-2003, 04:54 PM	#10
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Interesting...

05-27-2003, 09:25 PM	#13
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	GK's right, I remember reading somewhere that Ultra was an affiliate of Konami. Either that, or they're the same company.

05-28-2003, 06:45 AM	#15
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	So ultragames has seprated from Konami later then. I know it's a diffrent company now, if it even excists anymore.

05-28-2003, 11:43 AM	#16
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Ahhhhh....so Ultra WAS owned by Konami. Thanks for clearing that up!

06-03-2003, 03:13 AM	#18
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,119	Yup.. that's exactly right. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

07-13-2003, 02:04 PM	#19
impetus Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 978	I like vanilla ice cream. __________________

07-24-2003, 02:36 PM	#20
Raijin Z Thug Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Old Murakumo Base, Mars Posts: 68	Ultra and Konami published games use the same graphics and sound code. Compare Jackal to Contra. Same explosions, some of the same SFX. Ultra was more of a pseudonym for Konami than a bonafide subsidiary.