What was the reason they hired William E. Martin to voice Shredder in season 8?

TurtleFan2012 · 11-02-2012, 02:28 PM

I find it odd since Townsend Coleman and Jim Cummings who voiced Shredder were both voicing characters in "Get Shredder". Niether of them voiced him for some reason. I'm guessing they wanted someone with a more menacing voice for Shredder in the darker episodes.

I still prefer James Avery, but I wonder if his voice would had fit in the red sky era. Some people say William E. Martin sounded creepier and more menacing. What is your opinion, guys?

*MikeandRaph87* · 11-02-2012, 02:39 PM

While I never read an outright reason it can be speculated that James Avery was overbooked with Fresh Prince commitments and other projects and had to drop out of the role. I belief Jim Cummings and Townsend Coleman were in house substitutes until a regular voice actor could be found and that was William E. Martin who had a good voice for Shredder. It sounds like a scruffier,slightly sick verion of Avery.

*gobo* · 11-02-2012, 03:14 PM

^ What he said.

zodiac brave · 11-02-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

While I never read an outright reason it can be speculated that James Avery was overbooked with Fresh Prince commitments and other projects and had to drop out of the role. I belief Jim Cummings and Townsend Coleman were in house substitutes until a regular voice actor could be found and that was William E. Martin who had a good voice for Shredder. It sounds like a scruffier,slightly sick verion of Avery.

exactly. except, i wouldnt necessarily say "overbooked", as much as "felt he didn't need to continue doing voice work anymore".

*CyberCubed* · 11-02-2012, 08:13 PM

He was already gone for most of Season 7, so they probably figured it was time to drop him.

*Jephael* · 11-02-2012, 08:54 PM

I'd love to hear Mr. Avery make an appearance on Rob Paulsen's Talkin' Toons podcast. Maybe they can shed some light on the subject.

*pannoni1* · 11-03-2012, 10:55 AM

I'm curious how many people auditioned for Shredder at that point, given that the show was in decline and the fact that Shredder only appeared in seven more episodes for the rest of the series. Jim and Townsend were probably too light for a Red Sky Shredder, given that Bill's Shredder sounds very deep and serious, though lacks the edge that James Avery's Shredder contains. I'm not sure if CBS got involved to say "no comedic Shredder" as well.

11-02-2012, 02:28 PM	#1
TurtleFan2012 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 300	What was the reason they hired William E. Martin to voice Shredder in season 8? I find it odd since Townsend Coleman and Jim Cummings who voiced Shredder were both voicing characters in "Get Shredder". Niether of them voiced him for some reason. I'm guessing they wanted someone with a more menacing voice for Shredder in the darker episodes. I still prefer James Avery, but I wonder if his voice would had fit in the red sky era. Some people say William E. Martin sounded creepier and more menacing. What is your opinion, guys? Last edited by TurtleFan2012; 11-02-2012 at 02:33 PM.

11-02-2012, 02:39 PM	#2
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	While I never read an outright reason it can be speculated that James Avery was overbooked with Fresh Prince commitments and other projects and had to drop out of the role. I belief Jim Cummings and Townsend Coleman were in house substitutes until a regular voice actor could be found and that was William E. Martin who had a good voice for Shredder. It sounds like a scruffier,slightly sick verion of Avery. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	^ What he said. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

11-02-2012, 08:54 PM	#6
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I'd love to hear Mr. Avery make an appearance on Rob Paulsen's Talkin' Toons podcast. Maybe they can shed some light on the subject. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

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pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I'm curious how many people auditioned for Shredder at that point, given that the show was in decline and the fact that Shredder only appeared in seven more episodes for the rest of the series. Jim and Townsend were probably too light for a Red Sky Shredder, given that Bill's Shredder sounds very deep and serious, though lacks the edge that James Avery's Shredder contains. I'm not sure if CBS got involved to say "no comedic Shredder" as well. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

11-02-2012, 08:13 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,834	He was already gone for most of Season 7, so they probably figured it was time to drop him.