Various things about the villains you wish were expanded upon

[CyberCubed]

Some things I've been thinking about:

- What does Shredder actually do on the business side of things? In the 4kids series we watched Saki become a spokesperson for NYC, work with the Mayor, and ran underground dealings.

The Nick Shredder just seems to sit in his evil throne room all day. I hope we get to see more of, "Oroku Saki" without his armor on doing day to day dealings.

- The Purple Dragons seem to consist of only 3 people now that Xever is gone. They're not much of a gang at this point, I really hope to see them expand. I understand they don't want to create too many character models, but seeing these same 3 guys get beaten over and over is going to get tiring.

- Was Snake the only human to work for The Kraang?

- Where does Baxter Stockman get the technology to build the Mousers from? He got fired from the TCRI building, but what exactly did he get out of them?

- Chris Bradford was famous, does nobody notice he's missing? Will Dogpound ever show regret that he can't go back to his normal human life?


Just things I hope they address in time.

[Powder]

2k3's Saki sat in his 'evil throne room' for a while at first too, man. Give it time.

I'm sure most if not all of your questions and concerns will be addressed.

[Vivi]

Yeah, this stuff will undoubtedly be expanded upon. I'm most interested in the motivations of the Kraang at this point, and how it will link to Shredder.

[The Big Bad]

Originally Posted by Powder

2k3's Saki sat in his 'evil throne room' for a while at first too, man. Give it time.

I'm sure most if not all of your questions and concerns will be addressed.

Yeeees... but I feel there's substantial differences in execution that shouldn't be ignored. In 2k3, every successive episode would give us additional information or would progress the storyline in some way.

1. "Things Change": Shredder first hears about the turtles. Functionally identical to the scene in Rise of the Turtles.

2. "A Better Mousetrap" / "Attack of the Mousers": We learn of the Shredder's connections to Stocktronics; Saki gets photographic evidence of the turtles' existence.

3. "Darkness at the Edge of Town": We're given hints of the Shredder's overall plans; in the end, he decides that something has to be done about the turtles. We are first told of the Shredder's "enemies".

4. "The Way of Invisibility": The Shredder sets out to determine whether the turtles are connected to his enemies; by the end of the episode, he determines that they aren't, which means it may be possible to turn them over to his side.

5. "The Shredder Strikes": The Shredder makes his offer; we get a (false) description of his enemies; the turtles fight the Shredder for the first time.

In the Nick cartoon, the Shredder plotline is basically in the same place it's been since "New Friends, Old Enemies": the Shredder still wants to eliminate Hamato Yoshi for reasons that have not been elaborated upon since then. Despite his efforts, he is no closer to achieving his goal, and we've yet to learn anything substantial about the character. While how one feels about either toon's execution is a matter of personal opinion, I don't think that one can argue that they're similar in anything but the most superficial of ways.

In any case, to answer the question, I too, would like to know more about the Shredder.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

- What does Shredder actually do on the business side of things? In the 4kids series we watched Saki become a spokesperson for NYC, work with the Mayor, and ran underground dealings.

The Nick Shredder just seems to sit in his evil throne room all day. I hope we get to see more of, "Oroku Saki" without his armor on doing day to day dealings.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't do anything "on the business side of things". It seems to me that the Foot Clan makes its money through assassination contracts, strong-arming/protecting other gangs, and burglary.

[zodiac brave]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I'm pretty sure he doesn't do anything "on the business side of things". It seems to me that the Foot Clan makes its money through assassination contracts, strong-arming/protecting other gangs, and burglary.

yep. and this is, of course, simply speculation, but i wonder if "Oruku Saki" isn't around as much as The Shredder because of the scarring on his face.

[The Stryker]

Imagine the excitement from children when they tune in to see an episode where Shredder MAKES BUSINESS DEALS! OooOOOoooOooh Buddy. I can barely contain myself.

What do you think he has for breakfast? Toast? If so, how toasted does he like it? These are all questions that must be answered.

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Imagine the excitement from children when they tune in to see an episode where Shredder MAKES BUSINESS DEALS! OooOOOoooOooh Buddy. I can barely contain myself.

After Shredder starts using robotic ninjas, the real ninjas will be sent to the accounting department to "ninja" his assets.

Originally Posted by The Stryker

What do you think he has for breakfast? Toast? If so, how toasted does he like it? These are all questions that must be answered.

He had shredded wheat, duh.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I'm pretty sure he doesn't do anything "on the business side of things". It seems to me that the Foot Clan makes its money through assassination contracts, strong-arming/protecting other gangs, and burglary.

But what does he actually do in his time off? He doesn't just sit in his evil throne room with his armor on 24/7, does he?

It worked in the original cartoon because Shredder was hilarious and lived in the Technodrome. He had nothing better to do in that show but scold Bebop/Rocksteady and work with Krang to come up with new schemes to repower the Technodrome.

However this Shredder is very serious, so its much different.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

But what does he actually do in his time off? He doesn't just sit in his evil throne room with his armor on 24/7, does he?

If I looked that badass I totally would
maybe he is like Darth Vader and just sits in his little meditation chamber becoming one with the "Force"

[Coola Yagami]

I do agree about the Bradford thing though. You can't act like he's some sort of celebrity... and then act like noone's gonna care that he's suddenly missing. A random news report of people saying 'the media is still confused as to what happened to Chris Bradford' before Leo changes it to Space Heroes would have been enough.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Imagine the excitement from children when they tune in to see an episode where Shredder MAKES BUSINESS DEALS! OooOOOoooOooh Buddy. I can barely contain myself.

You don't a whole episode. Just a scene or two of Shredder meeting with some shady "clients".

[zodiac brave]

maybe he's not a businessman in this series...

[miru]

Maybe the Kraangs work for the Krang?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by miru

Maybe the Kraangs work for the Krang?

Ever since the show began I've been praying for this to be true.

God I hope we see Krang show up either at the end of Season 1 or the beginning of Season 2.

[zodiac brave]

all yall people who want the ot stuff SOOO BAAAAD...why not just watch the ot?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by zodiac brave

all yall people who want the ot stuff SOOO BAAAAD...why not just watch the ot?

Since when was it an, "OT stuff?"

Characters are not exclusive to one series. They're TMNT characters, plain and simple.

[NinjaMan]

I just assumed Shredder and the Foot Clan were a super secretive terrorist like organization.

[Ravenxl7]

Some of this I feel is inevitable, but I'll list them anyways...

-More of Splinter and Shredder's past. Especially some info on their army days.

-Explanation of whatever the Kraang have been trying to do all these years.

-Some sort of Kraang hierarchy, or at least introduce a leader Kraang. Give him a special robo-suit and some scars.

-Bradford reflecting on his past life, missing the freedoms of being human.

[Jester]

That and I'm sure he doesn't go out as Oroku Saki as much because of his HIDEOUS FACIAL SCARS!!! The mask is a bit more functional in the Nick TMNT universe. Shredder makes his money as a ninja clan leader...plain and simple.