2K12 Shredder, insane or not?

Lightjump · 05-02-2013, 05:51 PM

This thread is just a thread to post what you think if shreds insane or not

and say why or why not

TobTurn · 05-02-2013, 05:57 PM

No, I don't think so, but he's very very stupid. He's blinded by revenge, he's an incompetent leader (has no idea how to handle the Turtles, just look at how the '03 Shredder handled the Turtles and how this one handled them). I still think this Shredder is awesome, mostly because of his voice, but he's a really, really bad villain.

*CyberCubed* · 05-02-2013, 05:58 PM

He a bit one dimensional so far, but that's because the writers keep focusing so much on the Kraang and not enough in the Foot Clan.

Bit disappointing, the kids growing up with this series might think the turtles main enemies are the Kraang instead of Shredder and the Foot Clan.

*Powder* · 05-02-2013, 06:04 PM

Someone doesn't know what insane means.

**Jester** · 05-02-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TobTurn

No, I don't think so, but he's very very stupid. He's blinded by revenge, he's an incompetent leader (has no idea how to handle the Turtles, just look at how the '03 Shredder handled the Turtles and how this one handled them). I still think this Shredder is awesome, mostly because of his voice, but he's a really, really bad villain.

So...the guy with the C'hrell avatar and signature thinks he's a better Shredder than the Nick Shredder...

Nope, not at all biased.

http:SlashSlash · 05-02-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Someone doesn't know what insane means.

It's a good point. Maybe because he does the same tractic over and over, each time expecting to beat the turtles, that qualifies him as insane, by definition.

*TurtleTitan97* · 05-02-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Bit disappointing, the kids growing up with this series might think the turtles main enemies are the Kraang instead of Shredder and the Foot Clan.

It's only the first season. And it makes sense that the Kraang are getting more attention since they're the ones who want to mutate the whole planet and wipe out everyone else. The Foot will most likely be getting more attention after the turtles foil the Kraang's invasion plan.

Anyway, Shredder definitely does appear to be alittle nutty in the head, considering he didn't even care about what Karai said to him about the Kraang in "Enemy Of My Enemy" and was just focused on getting the weapons.

*CyberCubed* · 05-02-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

So...the guy with the C'hrell avatar and signature thinks he's a better Shredder than the Nick Shredder...

Nope, not at all biased.

Well if you strictly compare Season 1 4kids Shredder to Season 1 Nick Shredder, the 4kids version was much more threatening and calculating.

By this time in the 4kids era the Turtles already had 3 major fights with Shredder.

**Jester** · 05-02-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well if you strictly compare Season 1 4kids Shredder to Season 1 Nick Shredder, the 4kids version was much more threatening and calculating.

By this time in the 4kids era the Turtles already had 3 major fights with Shredder.

And the 4Kids series had how many MAJOR threats for the Turtles to deal with. Oh, right, just Shredder. You said it yourself, much more is being made of the Kraang so far. The Foot (for better of worse) is very much on the back burner.

TobTurn · 05-02-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

So...the guy with the C'hrell avatar and signature thinks he's a better Shredder than the Nick Shredder...

Nope, not at all biased.

Just because I'm a big fan of Ch'rell doesn't mean I'm biased. It's just the truth. What has the 2012 Shredder done well exactly? He sent his lackeys after them and when that didn't work he just did nothing for a few weeks, just to send his lackeys after them again.

Didn't work either, so then he decided to fight them himself (something Ch'rell did the very first time he had the chance, after he found out he couldn't get them to join him, something the 2012 Shredder never even considered, he could've used them to find Splinter). Well, both Shredders beat the Turtles, but both teams got away.

2012 Shredder's next step was to destroy the Turtles' home with chlorosurfonic acid, it doesn't work, the Turtles beat The Foot again, and AGAIN Shredder does nothing. At all. He just tells Karai to ''destroy them when you have the chance'' and he himself just sits on his ass.

Ch'rell on the other hand sends his ninja into the sewers, causing the Turtles to flee, but he finds them and beats the crap out of them (even WITH Splinter present there this time!). He practically killed them if it wasn't for that secret door in the closet in April's store. What does 2012 Shredder do? Let Baxter Stockman do his dirty work without even knowing anything about his plan or what he's gonna do (the Maze).

This new Shredder is an incompetent idiot.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 05-02-2013, 06:40 PM

Yes..and no, while he's driven and obsessed with revenge, it also makes him a huge MORON.

*CyberCubed* · 05-02-2013, 06:42 PM

And old toon Shredder is the funny kind of incompetent Shredder.

TobTurn · 05-02-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And old toon Shredder is the funny kind of incompetent Shredder.

Yup! He was probably insane too :p

**Jester** · 05-02-2013, 07:19 PM

I don't necessarily disagree with you TobTurn, but there are some things I think people are missing.
1. This is a much more comedic take on the Turtles than the 4Kids series was. It will make the villains a bit more incompetent and and buffoonish, because the series on the whole is not as serious.
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2. The 1st season of the 4Kids series was set up to ONE major threat, Shredder. The Nick series is establishing 2 major threats Shredder and the Kraang, and the threat of the Kraang is shown as a bit more eminent. That and April's plot ties more to it than the Shredder plot. Sadly this Shredder's role is lessened for the sake of the Kraang.

*oldmanwinters* · 05-02-2013, 07:21 PM

Well, a guy who dresses up like a tin can opener CLEARLY has "issues."

Leofan26 · 05-02-2013, 07:29 PM

I'll wait for the second season to decide this, so far we haven't really seen much of the guy

Overlordofnobodies · 05-02-2013, 07:57 PM

I dont think his that insane. Mind you I think all comic book bad guys have to be a bit insane.

He a lot better then the other two Shredders in my book so far but that was not to hard to tell the true. The 80's Shredder was all was a joke but that was how all bad guys act that way. So no big deal to me.

The 2003 one was a lot better bad guy at first but as soon as we find out he was nothing more then a little brain guy in a robot body he become worst then the 80's Shredder in my eyes. I just cant like a bad guy that is zero threat with out there suit or weapon or what ever. All so it did not help they had hald a dozen other Shredder after him.

So far I like the 2012 Shredder. Beside loving his look(I love how he is all scared up) and his voice. I like how it only take to time before he did went to get his hands dirty. First he let his number one man try. After that did not work he let his number two try but unlike other comic bad guys(other would have got some one else or let the third fav try.) He gone out and would have kill them to if not for the plot(the turtles are the main good guys. aka they cant die.)

Why yes I agree he is a bit obsessed and a bit of a moron. All the Shredder are obsessed with killing them and all bad guys are morons. If they where not then the show will not go on for very long now will it.

ironman29758 · 05-02-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlordofnobodies

I dont think his that insane. Mind you I think all comic book bad guys have to be a bit insane.

He a lot better then the other two Shredders in my book so far but that was not to hard to tell the true. The 80's Shredder was all was a joke but that was how all bad guys act that way. So no big deal to me.

The 2003 one was a lot better bad guy at first but as soon as we find out he was nothing more then a little brain guy in a robot body he become worst then the 80's Shredder in my eyes. I just cant like a bad guy that is zero threat with out there suit or weapon or what ever. All so it did not help they had hald a dozen other Shredder after him.

So far I like the 2012 Shredder. Beside loving his look(I love how he is all scared up) and his voice. I like how it only take to time before he did went to get his hands dirty. First he let his number one man try. After that did not work he let his number two try but unlike other comic bad guys(other would have got some one else or let the third fav try.) He gone out and would have kill them to if not for the plot(the turtles are the main good guys. aka they cant die.)

Why yes I agree he is a bit obsessed and a bit of a moron. All the Shredder are obsessed with killing them and all bad guys are morons. If they where not then the show will not go on for very long now will it.

This. The only one I like better is the Shredder from the first two movie. The 2012 Shredder is pretty good.

Avatar Yuffie · 05-02-2013, 08:48 PM

He's not insane enough IMHO.

The insane Shredder bit goes to 2K3 Karai.

*Donatello19* · 05-02-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

He a bit one dimensional so far, but that's because the writers keep focusing so much on the Kraang and not enough in the Foot Clan.

Bit disappointing, the kids growing up with this series might think the turtles main enemies are the Kraang instead of Shredder and the Foot Clan.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I really want to see more of the foot clan, and less of the Kraang. We wouldn't have this problem if they just teaamed up already

Anyways, I do SOMEWHAT like that they're focusing on the Kraang more because the episodes involving the foot feel fresh and special compared to the Kraang episodes.

05-02-2013, 05:51 PM	#1
Lightjump Thug Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 85	2K12 Shredder, insane or not? This thread is just a thread to post what you think if shreds insane or not and say why or why not

05-02-2013, 06:40 PM	#11
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	Yes..and no, while he's driven and obsessed with revenge, it also makes him a huge MORON. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

05-02-2013, 07:19 PM	#14
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I don't necessarily disagree with you TobTurn, but there are some things I think people are missing. 1. This is a much more comedic take on the Turtles than the 4Kids series was. It will make the villains a bit more incompetent and and buffoonish, because the series on the whole is not as serious. and 2. The 1st season of the 4Kids series was set up to ONE major threat, Shredder. The Nick series is establishing 2 major threats Shredder and the Kraang, and the threat of the Kraang is shown as a bit more eminent. That and April's plot ties more to it than the Shredder plot. Sadly this Shredder's role is lessened for the sake of the Kraang. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-02-2013, 07:21 PM	#15
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,497	Well, a guy who dresses up like a tin can opener CLEARLY has "issues." __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

05-02-2013, 08:48 PM	#19
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	He's not insane enough IMHO. The insane Shredder bit goes to 2K3 Karai. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

05-02-2013, 05:57 PM	#2
TobTurn Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 153	No, I don't think so, but he's very very stupid. He's blinded by revenge, he's an incompetent leader (has no idea how to handle the Turtles, just look at how the '03 Shredder handled the Turtles and how this one handled them). I still think this Shredder is awesome, mostly because of his voice, but he's a really, really bad villain.

05-02-2013, 05:58 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	He a bit one dimensional so far, but that's because the writers keep focusing so much on the Kraang and not enough in the Foot Clan. Bit disappointing, the kids growing up with this series might think the turtles main enemies are the Kraang instead of Shredder and the Foot Clan.

05-02-2013, 06:04 PM	#4
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	Someone doesn't know what insane means.

05-02-2013, 06:42 PM	#12
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	And old toon Shredder is the funny kind of incompetent Shredder.

05-02-2013, 07:29 PM	#16
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	I'll wait for the second season to decide this, so far we haven't really seen much of the guy

05-02-2013, 07:57 PM	#17
Overlordofnobodies Thug Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA OH Posts: 80	I dont think his that insane. Mind you I think all comic book bad guys have to be a bit insane. He a lot better then the other two Shredders in my book so far but that was not to hard to tell the true. The 80's Shredder was all was a joke but that was how all bad guys act that way. So no big deal to me. The 2003 one was a lot better bad guy at first but as soon as we find out he was nothing more then a little brain guy in a robot body he become worst then the 80's Shredder in my eyes. I just cant like a bad guy that is zero threat with out there suit or weapon or what ever. All so it did not help they had hald a dozen other Shredder after him. So far I like the 2012 Shredder. Beside loving his look(I love how he is all scared up) and his voice. I like how it only take to time before he did went to get his hands dirty. First he let his number one man try. After that did not work he let his number two try but unlike other comic bad guys(other would have got some one else or let the third fav try.) He gone out and would have kill them to if not for the plot(the turtles are the main good guys. aka they cant die.) Why yes I agree he is a bit obsessed and a bit of a moron. All the Shredder are obsessed with killing them and all bad guys are morons. If they where not then the show will not go on for very long now will it.