Sonic vs Mario

[InsaneZane]

Well, obviously the one you like most is gonna be the one in your opinion capable of beating the other.

Well, Mario is just a d@mn plumber...
Sonic is really fast and has sharp, blades-like... whatever on his back.

I think Sonic would whup his @$$, and only rednecks would think otherwise.

[That Matt Guy]

Mario could just shoot those fireballs at Sonic and roast him.

[redsai4lex]

That is rediculous!!!!!!!!!

SONIC WOULD DODGE THOSE FIREBALLS!!!

Sonic would slice him to pieces of FAT FILLED ITALIAN PLUMBER MAGGOT FOOD and then stomp on his remains when he is done!!!!!!!

NOTHING MARIO CAN DO COULD EVER HIT SONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kid Icarus]

Originally Posted by Red Raphael

NOTHING MARIO CAN DO COULD EVER HIT SONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

besides selling more copies of his games ?

Just kidding, I dun wanna unlease a flame war or console war here... those get really bad.

I like mario games more than sonic games, but i have a high respect for sonic (my first system, that was mine alone, was a genesis with sonic 1).

I'm gonna say Mario. Hopefully SEGA lets Nintendo put Sonic in SSB:M2 or what ever the new SSB game is gonna be.

[That Matt Guy]

What does Sonic do? He just runs fast.

[Reznorite420]

Originally Posted by Matthew138

What does Sonic do? He just runs fast.

...and collects rings, and gains the Chaos Emeralds to become Super Sonic/Hyper Sonic, can collect shields to boost his powers (fire, lightning, and bubble), and can smash ENTIRE walls (as opposed to Mario who can only crumble small sections of brick with his head), none of which Mario can do. So it goes without saying that Sonic owns Mario any day.

I take it you've never played anything past Sonic 1, maybe Sonic 2 at most, Matt

[Knuckles]

Ah, the good ol' days of Nintendo vs. Sega, (before the sacrilege of putting Sonic in Nintendo games). I was always for Nintendo during the glorious 16-bit wars, and I'm the type who generally picks a side in those type of things and stays there--viciously against the opposing side to boot. So I always hated Sega, and the only time nowadays I pick up a Sega controller is to play the Japanese version of X-Men vs. Street Fighter on Sega Saturn, (cuz it's more like the arcade, unlike the PS version). I don't play Nintendo really anymore though, having lost respect for it, and generally playing video games far less than I used to. To pick a side, I'd have to pick Mario, seeing as I'm way more inclined toward Nintendo than Sega despite my current feelings on Nintendo. I know the argument isn't Nintendo vs. Sega, but hey, these type of things always come down to who you like more anyway.

[Karpo_007]

Originally Posted by Reznorite420

...and collects rings, and gains the Chaos Emeralds to become Super Sonic/Hyper Sonic, can collect shields to boost his powers (fire, lightning, and bubble), and can smash ENTIRE walls (as opposed to Mario who can only crumble small sections of brick with his head), none of which Mario can do. So it goes without saying that Sonic owns Mario any day.

I take it you've never played anything past Sonic 1, maybe Sonic 2 at most, Matt

I take it you haven't played anything past Super Mario Bros. And even in that game mario can do much more than smash bricks. The whole thread is stupid.... It's a matter of opinion, and I think Mario games are much better. But im not that closed minded as some people here, I do like Sonic games to.

[Deepflame]

Kinda worthless question. It's the developers that decide how powerful their heroes are gonna be. Most heroes armed with a lasergun (as an example) would beat Sonic.
Take it like this; woudn't Megaman or Samus Aran beat Sonic into a muddy pile on the ground?

Still Mario is way cooler than Sonic, besides having better games

[Karpo_007]

I agree, but matter of opinion really. But fact is they have sold much more Mario games. All the "real" mario games are great, not counting Mario Carts or Tennis' or the like. Haven't played sunshine yet tough, but I've heard it's ok game to.

[Reznorite420]

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I take it you haven't played anything past Super Mario Bros.

You're sadly mistaken.

The following argument will be based only on the first 3 Mario games and first 3 Sonic games (S&K is basically just a continuation of Sonic 3, so there's no need to include it)

SMB 1: Mario can smash bricks, collect coins, become invincible, stomp on enemies, and throw fireballs. Ya-friggin'-hoo

SMB 2: All 4 Characters can run, pick up enemies and throw them, pick up items from the grass, collect Starmen when a certain number of cherries are collected. At least no 2 characters have the exact same abilities, so that's a plus. Still, in general,

SMB 3: OK, so Mario/Luigi has a more diverse selection of gaining powers: leaves, fireflowers, frog suits, hammer suits, tanooki (whatever the hell that means) suits, and all that jazz. Pretty impressive, but sill at best.

In general: Mario collects coins instead of rings, and he gets the points the moment he grabs one. While that's an immediate advantage over the Sonic games, sadly the only random factor about the coin grabbing is the choice of whether or not the player controlling Mario actually grabs the coins or not. Other than that, the coin-grabbing is pretty stote. The beauty of Sonic is that not only can the player choose when to grab the rings, but:

- Sonic's chances of survival depend on the rings ; Mario always has the same chance of surviving regardless of the number of coins he has, they're just there for extra points

- Sonic can lose rings, thus creating another random and fun factor in the gameplay, and he can recover as many as he can before they all go away ; Mario doesn't lose coins, so there's less fun in trying to survive in the level, they're only there to collect to gain points and lives, whoopee-frickin'-doo

I do have a life outside of this forum, so I'll stop there for now to allow the rest of you to have your say on what I've said (that's a tonguetie if I ever heard it )

BTW, I am taking Sonic's side NOT simply because I like Sega over Nintendo (each is good in its own way), but because I'm looking at the actual abilities of each character.

Oh, and Knuckles, I find it very ironic that you'd be pro-Mario since your username is the same of character that's in the Sonic the Hedgehog series

[Peanut]

Yeah but atleast the Mario Kart, Tennis, Golf, Party whatever are GOOD games. I'd go as far as calling both Mario Kart and Tennis GREAT games. Sonic has had some really really bad side games. Although I love Sonic's 1-3 and Knuckles. I also think it's safe to say that ALL of Mario's 3d "main" titles have been alot better than Sonic's 3d games. Super Mario 64 blows Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 out of the water 10 times over. As far as the fight goes...do I hear super star? Mario is invunerable and BAM Sonic is down. It takes Sonic too long to get the Chaos Emeralds. Oh man Rez. That has got to be the worst argument ever. Anyone who calls Super Mario Bros. a snooze fest has something wrong! My list would go as follows
Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario Bros. 2

Super Mario Bros. 3

Sonic The Hedgehog

Sonic The Hedgehog 2

Sonic The Hedgehog 3

[Reznorite420]

Mario's winning? That situation's on the same level as a Kindergartener beating the snot out of Arnold Schwartzenegger...IT AIN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!

[Reznorite420]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelo

As far as the fight goes...do I hear super star? Mario is invunerable and BAM Sonic is down. It takes Sonic too long to get the Chaos Emeralds.

Ah, but Sonic doesn't HAVE to have the emeralds to be invincible; there ARE the boxes with the swirling stars that have the same effect as the Starman in Mario (yeah, I'm guessing you don't know EITHER game series very well considering you didn't even call it a Starman).

[Peanut]

I was actually trying to remember the name of the item but I couldn't. I know tons about both series. I just haven't played Sonic in a LONG time. I completely forgot about the Sonic power up. I do remember it now though. The stars spin around him and it plays the theme music. Yes I remember now. Thanks for reminding me.

[That Matt Guy]

Doesn't Sonic battle some fat ass Russian guy?

[Peanut]

Yeah Robotnic(sp?) or Dr.Eggman is a pretty bad enemy. He's ok but I prefer King "Bowser" Koopa and maybe even...Wart? The stupid guy who gets killed by eating turnips!

[Loolaa]

I love both Mario and Sonic, it was kind of hard chosing but I opted for Mario in the end because Mario 64 is one of my all time favourites.

...plus I've got a thing for his brother...

[Nturtle]

Yeah its Wart, there is a reason why Mario 2 is so diffrent from the others though...

There was a diffrent Mario 2 released in Japan that had more levels, after you beat 8-4 it went to level "A-1" and then all the way up to D-4, this game was much tougher than any other Mario game and the Japanese thought it would be too tough for Americans (no kidding), so they took another game called "Doki Doki Panic" and changed the characters of that game into Mario characters. They made Luigi the tall skinny character, which is wwhy Luigi looks diffrent than Mario in other games.

Japanese Mario 2 was eventually released in America in the SNES game collection "Mario All Stars" but it was instead called "The lost levels".

And, Mario is just better than Sonic, he is so much cooler, he would destroy him!

[Karpo_007]

Super mario is what started the whole genre basicly, Sure sonic did introduce some new ideas, like the high framerate, and generally the fast pace of the game. Still, it owns much to Super Mario Bros. As do all of the platformers. Sonic 2, 3& and knuckles do not have any big new ideas between them, But every Mario Game introduced something new.

And I do think that Mario tennis and Kart games are good, but they can be hardly be compared to Sonic games. And I agree, 3d Mario games are better than 3d sonic games, But they aren't bad games either.

It seems Mario is winning, not a suprise really, thats how it has always been. Sega has never been very succesfull with it's consoles or games, thats unfortunate really.