Daisho or 2 katanas?

Donatello the turtle · 07-01-2003, 04:27 AM

hi my friend allways tells me leo got 2 katanas and i say it's a daisho(katana+Wakizashi) so m i right or he is?

**GK Punk** · 07-01-2003, 04:40 AM

Depends really

In the Cartoons/Movies it's katana.
But originally it was Daisho. (Even says that in the RPG book)

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 11:56 AM

Although it is claimed to be a daisho, and often mistaken to be two katanas, Leo actualy uses 2 ninja-to.

*Mars-Chan* · 07-01-2003, 12:00 PM

Katanas all the way!

The 7th Turtle · 07-01-2003, 12:02 PM

who cares, as long as you can kill chi-s with it

*Mars-Chan* · 07-01-2003, 12:03 PM

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 12:12 PM

Seriously, though, if you look at the design on how they are always drawn and the length of the handles they are obviously ninja-to.

**HorseTechie** · 07-01-2003, 12:21 PM

Yeah.. I think they have to be katanas, or ninja-to. Cause a properly drawn set of Daisho whould be more curved like samurai swords, and one blade is shorter than the other (yes?).

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 12:23 PM

More or less, yes.

**Nturtle** · 07-01-2003, 12:25 PM

(One day I want to find something about Ninjas that Heretic doesn't know!

)

Well,I looked at a few pictures of ninjato and I've got to say they do look more like leo's sword than katanas. But I think that since they are just drawings and the official word is that they are daisho, then they are!

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 12:29 PM

That confuses me.

I mean, if its claimed that Casey Jones is a black guy but every drawing of him shows him white then 'the word' alone suddenly doesn't make him a brother.

**Nturtle** · 07-01-2003, 12:36 PM

Well, there are less noticable diffrences between swords and skin color

*Dane E5R* · 07-01-2003, 12:57 PM

From issue 59..

"We've always thought of those swords as katanas - so they're not exactly technically perfect!"

So I'd say katanas, even though they're not "technically perfect." Plus Leo called them katanas in the first issue.

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 12:58 PM

If I were to make a guess, I would owe the confusion to Pete and Kev's relative ignorance concerning Japanese martial artsy things.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-01-2003, 03:29 PM

I'm with heretic on this one.

I mean, come on, Kevin and Peter were almost certainly up late, drunk, or "something else" when they decided "Hey, I've got this wacky idea! Turtles that look and act like humans and they're NINJAS! Hah? HAH?" I doubt that they put a whole helluva lotta thought into each and every little nuance of the idea, such as accurate representation of the weapons, who the best fighter is, what each of them's favorite color is, etc etc etc.

That's probably why whenever they get questions about stuff like that Pete and Kev make a joke or brush it off. In the grand scheme of things, only the fans actually care.

And in my writing, I'm still gonna just call them katanas, just because that's what they've always been referred to in print, just like I still spell Mike's name MichAelangelo. Against the grain, that's where I'll stay.

*heretic888* · 07-01-2003, 03:49 PM

Well, they did do more research into the matter than you to know. Some of the fighting postures and movements in the early comics are very reminiscent of Ninpo Taijutsu.

Still, they are hardly knowledgeable or experts on the matter.

*Raven* · 07-01-2003, 03:56 PM

I dont think kev and pete knew at the time that geeks around the world would debate over somthing like this

~~Leo656~~ · 07-01-2003, 05:42 PM

Regardless, I still don't think they took (or take) the whole thing anywhere near as seriously as the fans do.

I mean, no offense to anyone here, but sometimes when I read the more detailed and heated debates, I flash back to the episode of SNL with that skit of William Shatner at a Star Trek convention (I'm sure at least some of you know which one I'm talking about). Sometimes I imagine Eastman and Laird probably feel the same way.

**GK Punk** · 07-01-2003, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

If I were to make a guess, I would owe the confusion to Pete and Kev's relative ignorance concerning Japanese martial artsy things.

Actually I think so too, they have been refered to as Katana's, and Daisho but they don't "look" like Katanna's at all. I remember when I was a kid, my brother got mad at me for calling all japanese swords "Katana's" because of TMNT.

**GK Punk** · 07-01-2003, 05:57 PM

And in closing, I have decided to refer to his wepons as "Twin kodachi" from this point forward

07-01-2003, 04:27 AM	#1
Donatello the turtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 215	Daisho or 2 katanas? hi my friend allways tells me leo got 2 katanas and i say it's a daisho(katana+Wakizashi) so m i right or he is? __________________ mike-donatello..donatello if you build it we will ride..IN TURTLE STYLE

07-01-2003, 11:56 AM	#3
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahemmm Although it is claimed to be a daisho, and often mistaken to be two katanas, Leo actualy uses 2 ninja-to. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

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07-01-2003, 04:40 AM	#2
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Depends really In the Cartoons/Movies it's katana. But originally it was Daisho. (Even says that in the RPG book)

07-01-2003, 12:12 PM	#7
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm Seriously, though, if you look at the design on how they are always drawn and the length of the handles they are obviously ninja-to. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

07-01-2003, 12:21 PM	#8
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Yeah.. I think they have to be katanas, or ninja-to. Cause a properly drawn set of Daisho whould be more curved like samurai swords, and one blade is shorter than the other (yes?).

07-01-2003, 12:23 PM	#9
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm More or less, yes. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

07-01-2003, 12:25 PM	#10
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	(One day I want to find something about Ninjas that Heretic doesn't know! ) Well,I looked at a few pictures of ninjato and I've got to say they do look more like leo's sword than katanas. But I think that since they are just drawings and the official word is that they are daisho, then they are! __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

07-01-2003, 12:29 PM	#11
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ummmm That confuses me. I mean, if its claimed that Casey Jones is a black guy but every drawing of him shows him white then 'the word' alone suddenly doesn't make him a brother. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

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Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	Well, there are less noticable diffrences between swords and skin color __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

07-01-2003, 12:57 PM	#13
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	From issue 59.. "We've always thought of those swords as katanas - so they're not exactly technically perfect!" So I'd say katanas, even though they're not "technically perfect." Plus Leo called them katanas in the first issue. __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

07-01-2003, 12:58 PM	#14
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmmm If I were to make a guess, I would owe the confusion to Pete and Kev's relative ignorance concerning Japanese martial artsy things. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

07-01-2003, 03:29 PM	#15
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm with heretic on this one. I mean, come on, Kevin and Peter were almost certainly up late, drunk, or "something else" when they decided "Hey, I've got this wacky idea! Turtles that look and act like humans and they're NINJAS! Hah? HAH?" I doubt that they put a whole helluva lotta thought into each and every little nuance of the idea, such as accurate representation of the weapons, who the best fighter is, what each of them's favorite color is, etc etc etc. That's probably why whenever they get questions about stuff like that Pete and Kev make a joke or brush it off. In the grand scheme of things, only the fans actually care. And in my writing, I'm still gonna just call them katanas, just because that's what they've always been referred to in print, just like I still spell Mike's name MichAelangelo. Against the grain, that's where I'll stay.

07-01-2003, 03:49 PM	#16
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm Well, they did do more research into the matter than you to know. Some of the fighting postures and movements in the early comics are very reminiscent of Ninpo Taijutsu. Still, they are hardly knowledgeable or experts on the matter. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

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Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I dont think kev and pete knew at the time that geeks around the world would debate over somthing like this __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

07-01-2003, 05:42 PM	#18
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Regardless, I still don't think they took (or take) the whole thing anywhere near as seriously as the fans do. I mean, no offense to anyone here, but sometimes when I read the more detailed and heated debates, I flash back to the episode of SNL with that skit of William Shatner at a Star Trek convention (I'm sure at least some of you know which one I'm talking about). Sometimes I imagine Eastman and Laird probably feel the same way.

07-01-2003, 05:57 PM	#20
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	And in closing, I have decided to refer to his wepons as "Twin kodachi" from this point forward