Mutagen Man Theory

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-19-2013, 06:57 PM

Ok, so awhile back for those of us who remember, Ciro said in an interview (Which can be found here) that Mutagen Man was going to play a big role in season 2. As we already know, with all those mutagen canisters all around the city, there's gonna be a serious outbreak of mutants in New York. And in the latest episode, Donnie mention that he'd have to create some retro-mutagen.

So here's my theory: What if Mutagen Man is the key to stopping this mutant outbreak? Think about it, in his current state, Timothy literally is (Or soon will be) a giant, walking canister of mutagen. What if other than having the ability to create mutations, he can undo them as well? This way Tim could help the turtles defeat and "cure" the new mutants, and finally become the hero that he wanted to be.

So what do you guys think?

*miru* · 10-19-2013, 07:04 PM

Perhaps this happens, but moral issues occur we he tries to do it to sapient mutants.

FoxZerro · 10-19-2013, 07:15 PM

I mentioned a similar theory in last week's episodes discussion topic. I think that combining the ooze which Mutagen Man secretes will have a part in the eventual creation of the retro-mutagen. I also think that along the way in a very toyetic display we will see the creation of orange, yellow, purple, and green ooze which will all result in various effects on whomever is exposed to them.

In fact that could be one of the reasons that Spike mutates and becomes Slash. Donnie wanting to use him as a control by exposing him to some mutagen and Raph being against it and Donatello assuring him that based on his calculations Spike will revert back to normal as soon as he's exposed to the retro-mutagen but instead it causes him to grow the spikes on his body and also to gain the more iconic Slash colored skin.

I do like it being Timothy's way to become the hero he's always wanted to be though that is a nice addition to the idea. Though I still think that he will be reverted back to his original non-mutated state which will leave the Turtles with a finite amount of the retro-mutagen and without Mutagen Man no way to create more, that way they can have a work around as to why Splinter, Fishface, Dogpound, etc. are still mutants despite the existence of a cure.

*CyberCubed* · 10-19-2013, 07:39 PM

I can see Mutagen Man being the key to de-mutate Kirby back to normal at some point. Of course you'd wonder if they can de-mutate Mutagen Man back to the Pulverizer too.

TonySiegel · 10-19-2013, 08:28 PM

that would definitely be an awesome idea

*JTH* · 10-19-2013, 08:35 PM

The main plot point of the Donatello/Timothy storyline was that Donnie was ultimately responsible for whatever happened.

Since they made that so clear from the start. And they changed the character, I don't see how or why they would bring the original character back for a new season to follow since this was their intention to start.

Sadly, I think there's only one way that this arc is gonna end.

saber16 · 10-19-2013, 09:33 PM

That's an interesting idea. And if this does come to be, and he does turn on the Turtles... well, now they have to deal with an angry tube of goo and guts that has the power to mutate AND de-mutate anything he can get his hands on.

Also, this is a nice way to update the mutagen gun.

*victory_angel* · 10-20-2013, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jth

The main plot point of the Donatello/Timothy storyline was that Donnie was ultimately responsible for whatever happened.

Since they made that so clear from the start. And they changed the character, I don't see how or why they would bring the original character back for a new season to follow since this was their intention to start.

Sadly, I think there's only one way that this arc is gonna end.

I had that same feeling to...How far will Donnie need to go in order to right that wrong? And how will it affect him afterwards?

*BubblyShell22* · 10-20-2013, 07:03 AM

That is an interesting theory, and it might just be what happens. Don has to create the retro-mutagen somehow, and why not use Timothy if he's dripping in Mutagen. I honestly can't wait to see how this plays out and if this is indeed the case.

*snake* · 10-20-2013, 06:44 PM

Sounds good but I think Timothy will eventually blame Don for all this if he can't be cured.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-21-2013, 06:50 AM

Yeah, and then he'll get all upset because Don isn't finding a cure fast enough for him.

*blindturtle02* · 10-21-2013, 08:43 AM

These all sound like great ideas. What if they also decide to throw a bit of his original bio in there from the old 90's toy card? The stuff about Tim depending on the ooz to survive? Thus becoming an unwilling minion of the Foot. Sure he'll probably be the key to restoring people to human form, but I really hope that the mutagen is a sort of addictive substance for him-- for a while at least. Since there are tuns of canisters out there, it might happen but who knows? I really love the idea of Tim doing some good much better than him having to work for the bad guys in order to obtain more mutagen so that he can maintain rational thought and such. I can see Shredder or Karai attempting to use him at some point. If he does get mad at Don and starts blaming him, what if he does try switching sides? I really can't see him making such a choice but we have no idea how much in tact his mind is going to be. If the writers do decide to make the mutagen a sort of energy/sanity sorce, it could lead to him working for S and K in order to get more. Or maybe he goes out on his own in order to hunt for himself? Maybe he'll be a wild card? I hope everything turns out great for him, but my gut seems to be telling me otherwise.

TurtleMaster4 · 10-21-2013, 07:37 PM

Ah that Tim guy, maybe I need to rewatch those episodes but I personally found him quite annoying and stereotypical, although I was a bit sad when he mutated. I hope something good comes out of him, I really hate seeing that poor kid incased in a jar just sitting around Donnie’s lab. That said I hope he becomes a hero and an important part of the team, as long as if he isn’t nearly as annoying as he was in the first two episodes he was in!

*snake* · 10-21-2013, 07:39 PM

Yeah, Tims mutation was pretty scary for a kids show. Infact, I'm surprised that Nick allows half of the stuff on the show.

MaximeLoonatic · 10-22-2013, 09:13 AM

But if he can un-mutated the mutants wouldn't be aslo a threat to the turtles?
Think about it: they are mutants!! So Mutagen Man may can get the temptation to turn them into regular turtles in avenging for what he has been through!

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-22-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Sounds good but I think Timothy will eventually blame Don for all this if he can't be cured.

Its an interesting point. How do you cure the cure?

It would seem likely that Timothy's parents would have reported him missing. At the very least it would seem a poster with his picture with a missing caption would be seen in a street seen at some point if not on mutliple ocassions.

tylerdavies · 10-28-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

It would seem likely that Timothy's parents would have reported him missing. At the very least it would seem a poster with his picture with a missing caption would be seen in a street seen at some point if not on mutliple ocassions.

I thought the same thing lmao. Anyways this is an interesting theory. I can see it happening

pingclang · 10-28-2013, 10:09 AM

I'm curious if they'll pull a nod to the original mutagen man and he'll eventually at least be able to appear as his original self, even if he isn't completely transformed. I think it would be great if he ended up being able to demutate the Turtles, that would make him a serious threat but I see them making him good. At least if he was good we would have a mutant outside the Turtles and Splinter be a good guy.

*blindturtle02* · 10-29-2013, 02:52 PM

I hope he's eventually good and not some deranged psycho. He'll probably end up good and demutated.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-29-2013, 03:40 PM

Yeah, I hope the same thing. I would hate for Tim to remain a permanent villain for the Turtles.

10-19-2013, 06:57 PM	#1
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Mutagen Man Theory Ok, so awhile back for those of us who remember, Ciro said in an interview (Which can be found here) that Mutagen Man was going to play a big role in season 2. As we already know, with all those mutagen canisters all around the city, there's gonna be a serious outbreak of mutants in New York. And in the latest episode, Donnie mention that he'd have to create some retro-mutagen. So here's my theory: What if Mutagen Man is the key to stopping this mutant outbreak? Think about it, in his current state, Timothy literally is (Or soon will be) a giant, walking canister of mutagen. What if other than having the ability to create mutations, he can undo them as well? This way Tim could help the turtles defeat and "cure" the new mutants, and finally become the hero that he wanted to be. So what do you guys think? __________________ Last edited by TurtleTitan97; 10-19-2013 at 07:40 PM.

10-19-2013, 07:04 PM	#2
miru Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,874	Perhaps this happens, but moral issues occur we he tries to do it to sapient mutants. __________________ Proud Digimon nut.

10-19-2013, 07:15 PM	#3
FoxZerro Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 574	I mentioned a similar theory in last week's episodes discussion topic. I think that combining the ooze which Mutagen Man secretes will have a part in the eventual creation of the retro-mutagen. I also think that along the way in a very toyetic display we will see the creation of orange, yellow, purple, and green ooze which will all result in various effects on whomever is exposed to them. In fact that could be one of the reasons that Spike mutates and becomes Slash. Donnie wanting to use him as a control by exposing him to some mutagen and Raph being against it and Donatello assuring him that based on his calculations Spike will revert back to normal as soon as he's exposed to the retro-mutagen but instead it causes him to grow the spikes on his body and also to gain the more iconic Slash colored skin. I do like it being Timothy's way to become the hero he's always wanted to be though that is a nice addition to the idea. Though I still think that he will be reverted back to his original non-mutated state which will leave the Turtles with a finite amount of the retro-mutagen and without Mutagen Man no way to create more, that way they can have a work around as to why Splinter, Fishface, Dogpound, etc. are still mutants despite the existence of a cure. Last edited by FoxZerro; 10-19-2013 at 07:21 PM.

10-19-2013, 08:28 PM	#5
TonySiegel Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Worldwide Posts: 638	that would definitely be an awesome idea __________________ "...Color or creed, is no need for a man to bleed/ I believe, we all breathe the same seed/ Unless it's diluted, for somethin to intrude it..." - Kool G. Rap

10-19-2013, 09:33 PM	#7
saber16 Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 177	That's an interesting idea. And if this does come to be, and he does turn on the Turtles... well, now they have to deal with an angry tube of goo and guts that has the power to mutate AND de-mutate anything he can get his hands on. Also, this is a nice way to update the mutagen gun. __________________

10-19-2013, 07:39 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	I can see Mutagen Man being the key to de-mutate Kirby back to normal at some point. Of course you'd wonder if they can de-mutate Mutagen Man back to the Pulverizer too.

10-19-2013, 08:35 PM	#6
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	The main plot point of the Donatello/Timothy storyline was that Donnie was ultimately responsible for whatever happened. Since they made that so clear from the start. And they changed the character, I don't see how or why they would bring the original character back for a new season to follow since this was their intention to start. Sadly, I think there's only one way that this arc is gonna end.

10-20-2013, 07:03 AM	#9
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	That is an interesting theory, and it might just be what happens. Don has to create the retro-mutagen somehow, and why not use Timothy if he's dripping in Mutagen. I honestly can't wait to see how this plays out and if this is indeed the case. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-20-2013, 06:44 PM	#10
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Sounds good but I think Timothy will eventually blame Don for all this if he can't be cured.

10-21-2013, 06:50 AM	#11
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, and then he'll get all upset because Don isn't finding a cure fast enough for him. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-21-2013, 08:43 AM	#12
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	These all sound like great ideas. What if they also decide to throw a bit of his original bio in there from the old 90's toy card? The stuff about Tim depending on the ooz to survive? Thus becoming an unwilling minion of the Foot. Sure he'll probably be the key to restoring people to human form, but I really hope that the mutagen is a sort of addictive substance for him-- for a while at least. Since there are tuns of canisters out there, it might happen but who knows? I really love the idea of Tim doing some good much better than him having to work for the bad guys in order to obtain more mutagen so that he can maintain rational thought and such. I can see Shredder or Karai attempting to use him at some point. If he does get mad at Don and starts blaming him, what if he does try switching sides? I really can't see him making such a choice but we have no idea how much in tact his mind is going to be. If the writers do decide to make the mutagen a sort of energy/sanity sorce, it could lead to him working for S and K in order to get more. Or maybe he goes out on his own in order to hunt for himself? Maybe he'll be a wild card? I hope everything turns out great for him, but my gut seems to be telling me otherwise. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-21-2013, 07:37 PM	#13
TurtleMaster4 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Some where in the Sewers of New York! Posts: 390	Ah that Tim guy, maybe I need to rewatch those episodes but I personally found him quite annoying and stereotypical, although I was a bit sad when he mutated. I hope something good comes out of him, I really hate seeing that poor kid incased in a jar just sitting around Donnie’s lab. That said I hope he becomes a hero and an important part of the team, as long as if he isn’t nearly as annoying as he was in the first two episodes he was in!

10-21-2013, 07:39 PM	#14
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Yeah, Tims mutation was pretty scary for a kids show. Infact, I'm surprised that Nick allows half of the stuff on the show.

10-22-2013, 09:13 AM	#15
MaximeLoonatic Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 285	But if he can un-mutated the mutants wouldn't be aslo a threat to the turtles? Think about it: they are mutants!! So Mutagen Man may can get the temptation to turn them into regular turtles in avenging for what he has been through!

10-28-2013, 10:09 AM	#18
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	I'm curious if they'll pull a nod to the original mutagen man and he'll eventually at least be able to appear as his original self, even if he isn't completely transformed. I think it would be great if he ended up being able to demutate the Turtles, that would make him a serious threat but I see them making him good. At least if he was good we would have a mutant outside the Turtles and Splinter be a good guy.

10-29-2013, 02:52 PM	#19
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	I hope he's eventually good and not some deranged psycho. He'll probably end up good and demutated. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-29-2013, 03:40 PM	#20
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, I hope the same thing. I would hate for Tim to remain a permanent villain for the Turtles. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.