MY CHILDHOOD!!!!11one11?1

*snake* · 11-05-2013, 08:23 PM

Whats up with all these comments? "F*ck Nick, 80s show is better" "My childhood is ruined by stupid nick!" "Nick, stop raping my childhood!" Look on almost any Tmnt 2012 video on YouTube to find these comments. I know I shouldn't get mad over stupid things like this but idiotic comments like these make my blood boil.

Opinions on these?

Videos in question
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Igns training video (Can't find link.)

The new mutagen man video (couldn't find link to YouTube clip)

A rant on the new show (Not exactly the video, but the comments- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKg_4l8q604.)

And that Kraang clip Ign put up, plus a ton more.

*Powder* · 11-05-2013, 08:37 PM

These are what many of us call "casuals". People who aren't truly fans but rather have fond memories of the series (albeit often vague ones, as you so commonly see Raphael referred to as Ralph, people mixing up Shredder & Splinter, etc.) and mistake their nostalgia for a true passion. They think any slight deviation from the version they know best is a mortal sin. F 'em, they don't support the franchise, their opinions are of no significance short of frustration.

*Refractive Reflections* · 11-05-2013, 09:39 PM

Meh, it's their choice. I think the reason for those strong comments is all due to expectation level. Probably a lot of these commentators were expecting something similar to the OT which is not realistic (even the guy in that YouTube link you posted admitted to it).

People just have to get used to the fact that things change and pop culture (music, TV, movies, fashion, etc) is obviously no exception to that. Being a big OT fan, I'm glad there are some notable differences Nick has because otherwise it would be like retelling the same story over again.

Though as much as some of us may want to dismiss casual fans, we (and Viacom/Nick) have to acknowledge them since they do compose of around 50-70% of sales. ...Right?

I mean, just look at this 2014 TMNT movie, its already incorporating a lot of OT elements based on what we have just heard (i.e. I mean they have Vernon! ...Vernon.

).

*CyberCubed* · 11-05-2013, 10:22 PM

Do we really need this thread again? You're talking about people who just see random clips online and do not even bother watching the show.

These are people who don't even rewatch the original toon, they just remember it as a passing fad from their childhood.

*victory_angel* · 11-05-2013, 10:57 PM

Some people are just haters. They don't need a reason, they just like to complain. They watch a show and nit-pick every single detail because they want to find reason to hate something.

Some of the excuses for the hate is because of nostagia, because they loved the OT series when they were kids. So naturally when they learn a new version of this series was airing on Nick they didn't want it because they knew it wasn't the show they remembered.

It's kinda like the anime Full Metal Alchemist. The manga has a very well rounded, intriguing story. Then the Anime came out and there were lodes of people who loved the anime, and others who complained that the Anime didn't follow it's original manga.

Then about five or so years later another anime of Full Metal Alchemist that followed the manga more closely came out and people were interested it in it. But when they saw it a lot of the complaints were "We've seen this stuff before." "The original anime was better"

And the same is true here. There are people who don't like Casey Jones because he is there to take April from Donnie and/or make the series into a Twilightesk/Hunger Gamesesk/Soap Opera esk romantic drama.

But in the OT series Casey Jones only appeared a couple of times so he isn't as widely remembered by OT fans. As a result people either don't want him because he's either remembered as a psychopath vigilante that talks like Dirty Harry and has an inane desire to smash stuff with sports equipment. Or they don't want the character because they aren't familiar with him as an actual character in the TMNT franchise.

*Shark_Blade* · 11-05-2013, 11:27 PM

Ignore the haters. Far as I'm concerned, Nick's TMNT is a solid show. Ratings and sales proves it. I love the old shows too.

This is kinda like the case of Teen Titans Go!, where the purists from Teen Titans hating on the new show.

And I'm like

**Jester** · 11-05-2013, 11:40 PM

I never understood all the "MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED!!!" BS. It's not like the new thing makes the old thing cease to exist. If the new Turtle meant my old Turtles had to be completely destroyed...then maybe I could see this guttural reaction, but if I don't like the Nick series, I can pop in a DVD and watch the FW series...or 4Kids...or heaven forbid Next Mutation.

Same with the new movie. I'm not thrilled by most of the news, but you know what...I have the Barron movie on DVD and I can watch it and cleanse the palette if Bay/Liebsman's TMNT sucks on toast.

Leofan26 · 11-06-2013, 12:24 AM

Well, you get used to one series and than another different looking version of the turtles comes in. I was so used to the 2003 series and watched the 80's series, the animation looked odd to me at first and you get so used to seeing them in 2D animation. Course, once you give it a chance it really grows on you and as the series continues on the animation and music and plots get better and better, I'm even loving this Leo more and more and can't wait to see him slowly develop into a leader, current episode is showing us that just fine and the Leo / Karai arc is getting more and more interesting by the minute.

Ask for Titans Go, no comments

Blade Raider · 11-06-2013, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

YouTube

You answered your own question. YouTube is full of those kinds of comments regardless of subject. Welcome to the internet.

saber16 · 11-06-2013, 04:13 AM

It's amazing, these people complain the show is "Ruining their childhood" because the character designs look weird to them, or they think the animation is garbage.

... Uh, the 87 series was filled to the brim with goofy character designs, and had it's share of bad animation on top of animation goofs.

People love to complain, whether it's for understandable reasons or some of the stupidest reasons, it's unavoidable.

But hey, they can hate it all they want... not going to stop the third season from coming out, or beyond.

CowabungaMikey · 11-06-2013, 09:15 AM

I hate when people say: Omg, they ruined April, she's supposed to be a news reporter, that's the original....... SHE WORKED IN A LABORATORY IN THE ORIGINALDFDFD.
But that's just my opinion. People learn: The 1987 Toon is not the original!

*Bauer536* · 11-06-2013, 10:00 AM

Anything gets hate, but by a majority, it looks like there's more love to this series. Plus, some of these comments are old anyway.

kelligrafie · 11-06-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

as you so commonly see Raphael referred to as Ralph

Don't forget Mickey.

All of the people complaining never watched the damn show, they just bought a 'retro' t-shirt from a mainstream clothes retailer, instagrammed it and somewhere along the line ended up in the groupie box.

Apparently.

They tend to be the same people that are 'obsessed' with bacon, have clown 'phobias' and 'hate' Nickelback.

BECAUSE THE INTERNET TOLD THEM TO!

Konchadunga · 11-06-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

You answered your own question. YouTube is full of those kinds of comments regardless of subject. Welcome to the internet.

Yes; YouTube. Blindly-nostalgic idiots have always existed, but for much of the modern era, they were despised and discouraged. Thanks to YouTube, however, and it's ability to preserve old media off the air for decades, those idiots now have a breeding ground.

Aaronardo · 11-06-2013, 02:46 PM

These people annoy me. If anything, this show is the closest thing to the OT since the OT. Most of these people are, like Powder said, casual fans, or they're just looking to hate on something.

As for Teen Titans Go, I actually don't like it that much :P

Colonel Schrader · 11-06-2013, 03:09 PM

This thread is 2 funny. You guys talking **** about haters, but then turn around and hate on the Bay movie etc..

the movie thread is filled with hate for Bay, Megan etc.. Forget youtube etc. The biggest bunch of haters i have seen is right here on the drome!

*BubblyShell22* · 11-06-2013, 03:13 PM

These people are mindless idiots who probably don't want to take a chance on anything because it's not what they want. If you want to watch the OT, go watch the DVDs. Same goes for 4Kids and even Next Mutation. It does irk me that these people are out there, but the best thing we can do is ignore them and enjoy the Nick show in all its glory.

*JTH* · 11-06-2013, 03:15 PM

I love the people saying the animation is crap are probably people that don't even know what 360p is...

Now that's a laugh.

*Eiko* · 11-06-2013, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

This thread is 2 funny. You guys talking **** about haters, but then turn around and hate on the Bay movie etc..

the movie thread is filled with hate for Bay, Megan etc.. Forget youtube etc. The biggest bunch of haters i have seen is right here on the drome!

Yes i agree.

Konchadunga · 11-06-2013, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

This thread is 2 funny. You guys talking **** about haters, but then turn around and hate on the Bay movie etc..

the movie thread is filled with hate for Bay, Megan etc.. Forget youtube etc. The biggest bunch of haters i have seen is right here on the drome!

The difference is we have something to go on besides "they changed it; now it sucks." Change isn't necessarily for the worse, but it can be to the point that the series has nothing left of what you liked. Most of the general scenario and tropes of the series remain the same in the Nick show. Michael Bay's movie makes alterations to the origin it doesn't need, alterations to the villains and Casey that make it so they aren't themselves anymore, and doesn't do much good with them; even the Fred Wolf show had more excuses for its changes, because of censorship.

Another difference is we've had a chance to watch and analyze the Nick series. We can't do that with a movie not out yet, but what we can do is protest when we don't like what we've heard of it. That seems to have worked in that it got rid of the alien origin bit.

11-05-2013, 08:23 PM	#1
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	MY CHILDHOOD!!!!11one11?1 Whats up with all these comments? "F*ck Nick, 80s show is better" "My childhood is ruined by stupid nick!" "Nick, stop raping my childhood!" Look on almost any Tmnt 2012 video on YouTube to find these comments. I know I shouldn't get mad over stupid things like this but idiotic comments like these make my blood boil. Opinions on these? Videos in question ------ Igns training video (Can't find link.) The new mutagen man video (couldn't find link to YouTube clip) A rant on the new show (Not exactly the video, but the comments- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKg_4l8q604.) And that Kraang clip Ign put up, plus a ton more.

11-05-2013, 09:39 PM	#3
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	Meh, it's their choice. I think the reason for those strong comments is all due to expectation level. Probably a lot of these commentators were expecting something similar to the OT which is not realistic (even the guy in that YouTube link you posted admitted to it). People just have to get used to the fact that things change and pop culture (music, TV, movies, fashion, etc) is obviously no exception to that. Being a big OT fan, I'm glad there are some notable differences Nick has because otherwise it would be like retelling the same story over again. Though as much as some of us may want to dismiss casual fans, we (and Viacom/Nick) have to acknowledge them since they do compose of around 50-70% of sales. ...Right? I mean, just look at this 2014 TMNT movie, its already incorporating a lot of OT elements based on what we have just heard (i.e. I mean they have Vernon! ...Vernon. ).
$Refractive Reflections is offline$

11-05-2013, 10:57 PM	#5
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Some people are just haters. They don't need a reason, they just like to complain. They watch a show and nit-pick every single detail because they want to find reason to hate something. Some of the excuses for the hate is because of nostagia, because they loved the OT series when they were kids. So naturally when they learn a new version of this series was airing on Nick they didn't want it because they knew it wasn't the show they remembered. It's kinda like the anime Full Metal Alchemist. The manga has a very well rounded, intriguing story. Then the Anime came out and there were lodes of people who loved the anime, and others who complained that the Anime didn't follow it's original manga. Then about five or so years later another anime of Full Metal Alchemist that followed the manga more closely came out and people were interested it in it. But when they saw it a lot of the complaints were "We've seen this stuff before." "The original anime was better" And the same is true here. There are people who don't like Casey Jones because he is there to take April from Donnie and/or make the series into a Twilightesk/Hunger Gamesesk/Soap Opera esk romantic drama. But in the OT series Casey Jones only appeared a couple of times so he isn't as widely remembered by OT fans. As a result people either don't want him because he's either remembered as a psychopath vigilante that talks like Dirty Harry and has an inane desire to smash stuff with sports equipment. Or they don't want the character because they aren't familiar with him as an actual character in the TMNT franchise. __________________

11-05-2013, 11:40 PM	#7
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	I never understood all the "MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED!!!" BS. It's not like the new thing makes the old thing cease to exist. If the new Turtle meant my old Turtles had to be completely destroyed...then maybe I could see this guttural reaction, but if I don't like the Nick series, I can pop in a DVD and watch the FW series...or 4Kids...or heaven forbid Next Mutation. Same with the new movie. I'm not thrilled by most of the news, but you know what...I have the Barron movie on DVD and I can watch it and cleanse the palette if Bay/Liebsman's TMNT sucks on toast. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-06-2013, 04:13 AM	#10
saber16 Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 177	It's amazing, these people complain the show is "Ruining their childhood" because the character designs look weird to them, or they think the animation is garbage. ... Uh, the 87 series was filled to the brim with goofy character designs, and had it's share of bad animation on top of animation goofs. People love to complain, whether it's for understandable reasons or some of the stupidest reasons, it's unavoidable. But hey, they can hate it all they want... not going to stop the third season from coming out, or beyond. __________________

11-05-2013, 08:37 PM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	These are what many of us call "casuals". People who aren't truly fans but rather have fond memories of the series (albeit often vague ones, as you so commonly see Raphael referred to as Ralph, people mixing up Shredder & Splinter, etc.) and mistake their nostalgia for a true passion. They think any slight deviation from the version they know best is a mortal sin. F 'em, they don't support the franchise, their opinions are of no significance short of frustration.

11-05-2013, 10:22 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	Do we really need this thread again? You're talking about people who just see random clips online and do not even bother watching the show. These are people who don't even rewatch the original toon, they just remember it as a passing fad from their childhood.

11-05-2013, 11:27 PM	#6
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Ignore the haters. Far as I'm concerned, Nick's TMNT is a solid show. Ratings and sales proves it. I love the old shows too. This is kinda like the case of Teen Titans Go!, where the purists from Teen Titans hating on the new show. And I'm like

11-06-2013, 12:24 AM	#8
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	Well, you get used to one series and than another different looking version of the turtles comes in. I was so used to the 2003 series and watched the 80's series, the animation looked odd to me at first and you get so used to seeing them in 2D animation. Course, once you give it a chance it really grows on you and as the series continues on the animation and music and plots get better and better, I'm even loving this Leo more and more and can't wait to see him slowly develop into a leader, current episode is showing us that just fine and the Leo / Karai arc is getting more and more interesting by the minute. Ask for Titans Go, no comments

11-06-2013, 09:15 AM	#11
CowabungaMikey Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 661	I hate when people say: Omg, they ruined April, she's supposed to be a news reporter, that's the original....... SHE WORKED IN A LABORATORY IN THE ORIGINALDFDFD. But that's just my opinion. People learn: The 1987 Toon is not the original! __________________ Cowabunga says it all!

11-06-2013, 10:00 AM	#12
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	Anything gets hate, but by a majority, it looks like there's more love to this series. Plus, some of these comments are old anyway.

11-06-2013, 02:46 PM	#15
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,043	These people annoy me. If anything, this show is the closest thing to the OT since the OT. Most of these people are, like Powder said, casual fans, or they're just looking to hate on something. As for Teen Titans Go, I actually don't like it that much :P __________________ "Shredder, you gotta listen to reason!" - Leonardo "Oh Turtles! Oh Turtles! Chew your gum properly." "If I miss this week's Kirby, heads are gonna roll." - Raphael "The Biosites have almost finished healing my flesh." - Shredder "Because we're takin' the heart and you're goin' to jail!" - Donatello

11-06-2013, 03:09 PM	#16
Colonel Schrader Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 324	This thread is 2 funny. You guys talking **** about haters, but then turn around and hate on the Bay movie etc.. the movie thread is filled with hate for Bay, Megan etc.. Forget youtube etc. The biggest bunch of haters i have seen is right here on the drome!

11-06-2013, 03:13 PM	#17
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	These people are mindless idiots who probably don't want to take a chance on anything because it's not what they want. If you want to watch the OT, go watch the DVDs. Same goes for 4Kids and even Next Mutation. It does irk me that these people are out there, but the best thing we can do is ignore them and enjoy the Nick show in all its glory. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

11-06-2013, 03:15 PM	#18
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	I love the people saying the animation is crap are probably people that don't even know what 360p is... Now that's a laugh.