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Old 07-12-2003, 09:32 PM   #1
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Do you like rap?

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...then you're a decent human being

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Old 07-12-2003, 11:25 PM   #2
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:59 AM   #3
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...then you're a decent human being
Does this mean I'm not decent? Sorry, but that's the music I've been raised listening to most of my life. In the streets, they never really played Metallica. But that's the past... this is the present. *thinks for a second* And I still love rap music. Rap, hip-hop, and R&B.
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Old 07-13-2003, 08:09 AM   #4
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I love rap...
but i nevere pretended to be decent....
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Old 07-13-2003, 08:41 AM   #5
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Does this mean I'm not decent? Sorry, but that's the music I've been raised listening to most of my life.
Oxymoron: Rap music. Sorry, buddy, but that stuff where the words are out of sync in some forms of it, the "lyrics" aren't truly sung, and there's nothing but "motherf**k b*tch ho pimp blah blah blah" every 5 seconds, is in no way music, even scientifically (yes, music is actually defined scientifically). And don't blame me for not listening to enough of it to make a valid assumption, because...*points to next quote*
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In the streets, they never really played Metallica. But that's the past... this is the present. *thinks for a second* And I still love rap music. Rap, hip-hop, and R&B.
I didn't exactly grow up in the streets, but it was the next worst thing. I lived and went to school with hundreds upon hundreds of the "gangbanger" type. I was only probably the only one in that school district whose family wasn't on welfare. You know the type; those who use the welfare money to either buy drugs or the kind of cars better than those who make a decent living that are NOT on welfare (not saying you're one of those types, though). I'll give you one guess as to what kind of (lousy excuse for) "music" I heard around every corner. Let me tell you that I've grown to hate it and consequently I equate that stuff with lowlife scum such as that. The only exception to that has been the spoiled brats at my last high school, but then again they're just mainstream wannabes that STILL didn't get the proper rearing from their parents ("rearing" meaning "raising", thank you Mrs. Anderson for educating me on the difference!). My entire circle of friends will vouch for me fully on this matter.

Besides, what good is "music" that has songs die out after only a month at most? True music never dies out/loses popularity. That's the beauty of what I listen to; 10 or more years, still going strong.

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Old 07-13-2003, 08:57 AM   #6
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Does this mean I'm not decent? Sorry, but that's the music I've been raised listening to most of my life.
Oxymoron: Rap music. Sorry, buddy, but that stuff where the words are out of sync in some forms of it, the "lyrics" aren't truly sung, and there's nothing but "motherf**k b*tch ho pimp blah blah blah" every 5 seconds, is in no way music, even scientifically (yes, music is actually defined scientifically). And don't blame me for not listening to enough of it to make a valid assumption, because...*points to next quote*
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In the streets, they never really played Metallica. But that's the past... this is the present. *thinks for a second* And I still love rap music. Rap, hip-hop, and R&B.
I didn't exactly grow up in the streets, but it was the next worst thing. I lived and went to school with hundreds upon hundreds of the "gangbanger" type. I was only probably the only one in that school district whose family wasn't on welfare. You know the type; those who use the welfare money to either buy drugs or the kind of cars better than those who make a decent living that are NOT on welfare (not saying you're one of those types, though). I'll give you one guess as to what kind of (lousy excuse for) "music" I heard around every corner. Let me tell you that I've grown to hate it and consequently I equate that stuff with lowlife scum such as that. The only exception to that has been the spoiled brats at my last high school, but then again they're just mainstream wannabes that STILL didn't get the proper rearing from their parents ("rearing" meaning "raising", thank you Mrs. Anderson for educating me on the difference!). My entire circle of friends will vouch for me fully on this matter.

Besides, what good is "music" that has songs die out after only a month at most? True music never dies out/loses popularity. That's the beauty of what I listen to; 10 or more years, still going strong.

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Old 07-13-2003, 10:55 AM   #7
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I like Rap also and i don't care if you people hate it so much
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:39 AM   #8
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I HATE RAP!! and i appluad all that share this oppion. I mean it dosent even have instrument, a friken synthesyser.
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Old 07-13-2003, 01:02 PM   #9
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well I was in to rap for a short while but than I grew up and noticed it has nothing to do with music at all and in fact they dont sing at all

in my opion all rap should be burned
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Old 07-13-2003, 01:38 PM   #10
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Myself, I enjoy all kinds of music. My favorite being "Classical Jazz". Which means I appreciate all kinds of music. And for you to sit there at your comp and write a long ass novel about why Rap is bad, just shows how sad you are. You really need to open your mind man. Accept all music, not just the kinds that you think are good. And even if you dont want to accept all music. Dont tell us "People who like rap" That you dont. Cause we dont care.
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Old 07-13-2003, 01:56 PM   #11
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its not music im tellin ya. its for ur own good
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Old 07-13-2003, 01:58 PM   #12
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The main reason I hate rap is the lyrics. They are usually nothing but an excuse to say every 4 letter word over &amp; over. I can't sand that kind of filth. Rap is not music, it is an excuse for people to talk like idiots while a synthizer backs them up. I hate rap.
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:13 PM   #13
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If you think rap is nothing but 4 letter words spouting out every five seconds you're wrong

sure they say alot of curses NOW but if you look at classic rap like Run DMC you'll say different

and for all you rockers you would love eminem if he grew his hair long and grabbed a guitar and wailed his brains out and died on a coke bender wouldn't cha?
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:14 PM   #14
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no that is not what rock is about.
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:18 PM   #15
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Eminem with a guitar doesn't thrill me... dead Eminem... eeeh I *want* to say I'd be hapy, but I hesitate to wish death upon anyone else...

Ok, let me put it this way. I'd want Eminem dead ONLY if *I* killed him, otherwise I'd just want him and his fake thug act to go away because he's a scrawny white boy and nobody with hair that evenly bleached is any type of threatening.

I like some rap... House of Pain, Run DMC, Public Enemy... old school stuff before it became all about the bling bling.
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The only current rapper that i like now is ludacris he's not AS profanity driven as the rest (eminem,50 cent) I hate 50 cent so much

but the classics are the best

now in every new rap track they gotta mention these three words "dawg,holla,hoes"
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I didn't exactly grow up in the streets, but it was the next worst thing. I lived and went to school with hundreds upon hundreds of the "gangbanger" type. I was only probably the only one in that school district whose family wasn't on welfare. You know the type; those who use the welfare money to either buy drugs or the kind of cars better than those who make a decent living that are NOT on welfare (not saying you're one of those types, though). I'll give you one guess as to what kind of (lousy excuse for) "music" I heard around every corner. Let me tell you that I've grown to hate it and consequently I equate that stuff with lowlife scum such as that. The only exception to that has been the spoiled brats at my last high school, but then again they're just mainstream wannabes that STILL didn't get the proper rearing from their parents ("rearing" meaning "raising", thank you Mrs. Anderson for educating me on the difference!). My entire circle of friends will vouch for me fully on this matter.

Besides, what good is "music" that has songs die out after only a month at most? True music never dies out/loses popularity. That's the beauty of what I listen to; 10 or more years, still going strong.
But that's the thing, Rez. You're basing rap on mainstream artists. I'm sorry, but there are underground rap artists who aren't about cussing. Most use profanity, because let's face it... that's practically the language of today. I'm not saying that rap music is the best, but I'm just saying no one should be stamped as a fool for liking the music. I don't base rap/hip-hop on pimp wannabes. I base them on REAL artists that use rap as a good thing. Songs like "Life" from Royce da 5'9'' is something that hip-hop should be. I only enjoy a certain amount of rap. Others can be pointless and stupid. I understand that. But don't base rap on gangster killer wannabes that sell music through violence. That is not what rap is. That's what the media wants to say to everyone, and most mainstream artists are taking advantage of that.

People that rap about true issues, like Mos Def's "What Beef Is" and Talib Kweli's "Get By" are what rap should be about. Not about "rollin' on dubs" or "poppin' gats" or whatever. Trust me, I was the good little innocent kid in my old neighborhood (ugh... if you were raised there, you wouldn't want to play that role). Some can be used as a way to release thoughts, and some can be used to release candy for album buyers. Most people don't want to hear about nice things are real issues, so that's why artists that rap about them aren't noticed. Yes, I listen to all rap, but I don't find some of these songs representatives of them.

And just to finish... rap and hip-hop is only a fad to, well... teenie boppers. But just because this will fall out from the followers, doesn't mean it will be dead. It was alive before teenie boppers got into it, and it will be alive when these little bandwagoners leave. Rap was not meant to be a fad, it goes way back to Kurtis Blow... rap goes a long way back, don't expect it to die because bandwagoners get tired of it. There are still those who listened to it just for the hell of it.

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Old 07-14-2003, 11:43 AM   #18
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classic rap is tollerable good to dance to to make ur self look like a doofus. but nowadays i hate it. and how come in those rock n roll turtles they have rappin mike rap is not rock.they have punk, heavy metal and classic.
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I mean it dosent even have instrument, a friken synthesyser.
Radiohead uses synths in their music, do you consider them to be less 'musical' because they do? . Trent Reznor even does techno music, but I'm sure that dosen't count against him either. And yes, some rap DOES have real insturments in it! *ghasp* (remember 'Walk this Way'?.)

I don't like the thug rap, but I actually like some of the eairly mainstream rap.

And Rez, you're only talking about thug/gangsta rap. It's just like mainstream rock now... bland.
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Yep... I like Rap. Even Eminem.

And I also still like the Dixie Chics too.
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